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Millennials Hate Phone Calls, And They Have A Point

By CovfefeButDeadly follow CovfefeButDeadly   2019 Nov 18, 5:55am 308 views   25 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


The do have a point. I’m solidly Gen X and I can’t stand talking on the phone. Worst is when someone has to convey a lot of information like I’m gonna sit there writing all this crap down. Sent an effin email with bullet points and explanation/expectations!

And the very worst office time wasters are the few yappy women that insist on a steady stream of personal phone calls. The kid texting like crazy can still produce something while waiting for the other person to respond. The crazy bitch on the phone all day is paralyzed and can’t do a damn thing!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/briannawiest/2019/11/04/millennials-hate-phone-calls-they-have-a-point/amp/

To some, this may seem rude, if not a bit standoffish. However, it’s actually fantastic for productivity, and we should all be taking a cue.

This is the millennial work email standard:

If it can be said in an email, send an email.
Always send an email, if sending an email is possible.
The only reason an email should not be sent to communicate basic information is if the conclusions, objectives or answers are not yet decided upon, and multiple people should be present to weigh in on them.
If you’re still not convinced, this is why the millennial expectation that emails should be standard — not in place of calls entirely, but largely for day-to-day communication.
1   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 18, 6:32am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Email is a way more efficient way to communicate.
2   Shaman   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 18, 6:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Depends on if it’s work or personal. Work... sure email. Although I make a lot of voice calls to coordinate with other departments at work.
Personal... usually best for a phone convo... otherwise things get impersonal.
3   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2019 Nov 18, 6:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

For work, emails have proof, with a time and date. When you call and tell someone something, that person call always say later: "This is the first I heard of it."
4   Patrick   ignore (0)   2019 Nov 18, 8:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I just don't answer my phone anymore unless I'm expecting a call from someone I know. Even then, I try to keep it short. Talking on the phone always feels like a waste of time.
5   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 18, 8:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There is no form of communication that make multi-tasking efficient. It's always the biggest time waster, so that perspective is meaningless. If the issue cannot be quickly communicated, or is complex, a phone call, or meeting is best. And for personal relationships, I will only talk on the phone(no cell, no text). Relationships that mostly exist over text aren't real, and aren't important, or you'd take the time to pick up the phone once in a while.
6   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (7)   2019 Nov 18, 8:48am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
There is no form of communication that make multi-tasking efficient. It's always the biggest time waster, so that perspective is meaningless. If the issue cannot be quickly communicated, or is complex, a phone call, or meeting is best. And for personal relationships, I will only talk on the phone(no cell, no text). Relationships that mostly exist over text aren't real, and aren't important, or you'd take the time to pick up the phone once in a while.


This isn’t correct at all. Like others have said, I rarely answe my phone. Yet maintain friendships and family relationships.
7   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2019 Nov 18, 8:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

A message to Millennials and not a direct response to CBD

Well if you can't call me when I explicitly explained to you I loathe texting when ever a thought out answer is required by me.
Then you wont get my business. I'm the guy with the cash, the Millennial is the guy that want's to wash my cars, or mow my lawn or service my AC.

All of which in the last 7 years or so, I have fired because I told them do not text me, to ask if I'm in need of their services.

If anyone is incapable of having a verbal conversation, then they are fucking idiots, and don't want them anywhere near me or my property.

As far as someone being overly wordy, that's what "Well I've got to go!" is for.

Now Go Text That!
8   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (52)   2019 Nov 18, 8:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There is a ton of stuff you don't want to ever appear in an archivable format and, in some cases, will be required by the contractor to never put in media that be knowingly captured without a warrant. Phones aren't going away yet.
9   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 18, 9:03am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Telegrams are the beat way to relay information.
10   rd6B   ignore (1)   2019 Nov 18, 9:16am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Fortwaynemobile says
Telegrams are the beat way to relay information.

Clay tablets beat everything.
11   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 18, 9:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Moses has 2 tablets, man had a point.

6rdB says
Fortwaynemobile says
Telegrams are the beat way to relay information.

Clay tablets beat everything.
12   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 18, 9:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CovfefeButDeadly says
This isn’t correct at all. Like others have said, I rarely answe my phone. Yet maintain friendships and family relationships.


If words on a screen make a meaningful relationship for you, I guess all my social media posts mean I have a bazillion real friends.

In reality I have a few, they are the ones who call me, because I've cut-off all other forms of communication. I've noticed this is especially true since I've moved and certain people I haven't talked to more than once, or ever, since moving.

Knowing everything about someone even though you hardly ever see them because you are on their FB is creepy, not normal.
13   mell   ignore (4)   2019 Nov 18, 9:31am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

All true but the point for Millenials is to learn how to talk on the phone with confidence for mostly private but sometimes also professional reasons. Maybe if you date a socially inept Millenial you may be getting by with texts but if you want to score a high quality and traditional woman find your balls and pick up the phone. Still be brief but courteous, set the date then maybe one text if the date is a few days away casually mentioning something if you don't want to waste your time but better assume the sale. Once you have a relationship established mostly texting is fine, but a phone call here and there is good. For efficiency in the work place I'm all for emails and texts and I'd say everybody's text to phone call ration in this day and age is probably 80/20.
14   WineHorror1   ignore (1)   2019 Nov 18, 10:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

When phones were invented people said..."if you want a close relationship, you'd come over instead of calling".
15   mell   ignore (4)   2019 Nov 18, 10:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
When phones were invented people said..."if you want a close relationship, you'd come over instead of calling".


Haha that's true. But back then ringing the door bell for courtship wasn't considered stalking and nobody was metooed. The phone seems like a healthy middle ground. And chicks dig it.
16   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2019 Nov 18, 10:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I'm old enough to remember people would go over to your house, to see if you're alright. After you intentionally took the phone off the hook, or just wasn't answering your phone.
17   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2019 Nov 18, 10:42am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
All true but the point for Millenials is to learn how to talk on the phone with confidence for mostly private but sometimes also professional reasons. Maybe if you date a socially inept Millenial you may be getting by with texts but if you want to score a high quality and traditional woman find your balls and pick up the phone. Still be brief but courteous, set the date then maybe one text if the date is a few days away casually mentioning something if you don't want to waste your time but better assume the sale. Once you have a relationship established mostly texting is fine, but a phone call here and there is good. For efficiency in the work place I'm all for emails and texts and I'd say everybody's text to phone call ration in this day and age is probably 80/20.


Here's the problem I have with texters.

Someone is at the store you're calling them to remind them to pick up something or give them further instructions.
They don't answer your call, then text back and say "I'm in the check out now." You text back "Pick up X" or "Call me I need to ask you some more shit"
They don't get the text until they leave the store, because they were paying for groceries.

It gives Millennials an excuse to avoid communicating something they may not want to do, because they don't have communication skills to make their case as to why they cant. Or they just too chicken shit to say no. That and the ever growing FOMO "Fear of missing out."

They might commit to something with you, then have to turn down better options after telling you they would be there.
Texting allows them to keep everything in the air.
A person texting you, telling you they will be there at 5 O'clock, is more likely to blow you off, than someone that picked up the phone and told you 5 O'clock works for them.
Texters will blow you off right after texting "I'm on my way." "I'm 20 minutes away" then you don't hear from them again that day.
Texters are flakes.
18   mell   ignore (4)   2019 Nov 18, 10:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
mell says
All true but the point for Millenials is to learn how to talk on the phone with confidence for mostly private but sometimes also professional reasons. Maybe if you date a socially inept Millenial you may be getting by with texts but if you want to score a high quality and traditional woman find your balls and pick up the phone. Still be brief but courteous, set the date then maybe one text if the date is a few days away casually mentioning something if you don't want to waste your time but better assume the sale. Once you have a relationship established mostly texting is fine, but a phone call here and there is good. For efficiency in the work place I'm all for emails and texts and I'd say everybody's text to phone call ration in this day and age is probably 80/20.


Here's the problem I have with texters.

Someone is at the store you're calling them to remind them to pick up some...


While it largely depends on the person's character and you can still be reliable and be a texter, I mostly agree with this. Also like you said it's asynchronous but often a synchronous exchange is needed. If it's really important I call the wife. Also often it needs clarification and instructions via text can go quite wrong but at least you have them in writing. Pros and cons for everything.
19   HEYYOU   ignore (47)   2019 Nov 18, 11:13am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Call,email,text the short message: Fuck Republicans!
20   NoCoupForYou   ignore (5)   2019 Nov 18, 11:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I use the phone to communicate nuance with client's potential vendors.

For instance, somebody really wants something that simply isn't going to happen. They're pushing for something and they're not going to stop until I explain it.

With the phone, I can explain my client's thinking to vendors and why what they want is not going to happen,offer alternatives. Without potentially getting myself in trouble.

"The client doesn't permit X without a Z because some vendors might never Z if they could X. The thinking is pretty firm on this. But I can suggest Z with a Y, which is a lower cost than X with Z, and almost as effective."

Also, sometimes vendors have complicated questions that build off each other, and it's easier to call them because an email would turn into a novel, and it would take 15 minutes to talk about what might take an hour to write an email, and even then I or they might miss some point so I'd end up writing 2-3 more emails of long length.

But email is really great 95% of the other time
21   Shaman   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 18, 3:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Fortwaynemobile says
Moses has 2 tablets, man had a point.

6rdB says
Fortwaynemobile says
Telegrams are the beat way to relay information.

Clay tablets beat everything.


22   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (52)   2019 Nov 18, 4:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HOT! CHICKS! tapping out morse code on my taint is the only realistic way to communicate securely.
23   SunnyvaleCA   ignore (1)   2019 Nov 18, 4:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The phone-spam comes and goes. Not much at the moment. But I've set my phone to immediately go to voicemail if it's from a number not in my address book. Automatic conversion to text so I can read at a glance instead of listening to the spam is also nice. I can dispatch those mortgage refinance, Obamacare signups, and (not) IRS calls in almost no time flat.
24   clambo   ignore (5)   2019 Nov 18, 5:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

1. Text is good for brief exchanges, and information in lieu of trying to write down directions.
2. Talking is good for discussion of things you don't want written down anywhere.

I talk far less often with the people I am texting back and forth with.
25   Ceffer   ignore (5)   2019 Nov 18, 5:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
HOT! CHICKS! tapping out morse code on my taint is the only realistic way to communicate securely.

With her tongue!

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