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Democratic party elites are out of touch

By Patrick follow Patrick   2019 Nov 2, 3:28pm 223 views   14 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/30/democratic-party-2020-centrist-candidate

When something has been done one way for many years, and when doing things that way has made a certain group of people fat and happy, it is natural that that group of people will want to continue doing things that way. It is also natural that the much larger group of people who have been hungry and neglected for all those years as a result of the way things have been done will want to do something different. Eventually, the larger group, full of righteous anger, will win. But the fat and happy class will cling tightly to what they have for as long as their swollen fingers can hold on. This is essentially what’s happening within the Democratic party right now. The weak grip of the old guard is being broken, one finger at a time.

The election of Donald Trump and the sudden viability of Bernie Sanders as a candidate in 2016 were both enormous flashing billboards reading “THINGS ARE DIFFERENT NOW”. To fail to read these signs amounts to active, willful ignorance. Many people were surprised by the way things went in the last presidential election, but there is no excuse for being surprised by the same things again.

Four decades of growing inequality and a class war by the rich that has been too successful for its own good have pushed Americans toward political positions that would have been considered fringe back in the carefree 1990s. The extremities have waded into the mainstream. You don’t need to be a genius to understand this basic fact – you just have to watch a little Fox News, look at a few income inequality charts, and have a chat with a couple of uninsured people who are trying to pay the medical bills for their school shooting gunshot wounds via GoFundMe.

People’s patience with the status quo has worn away. Americans themselves understand this instinctively. Political polls confirm it. Donald Trump revels in it. The only ones who don’t seem to grasp it are the wizened establishment figures of the Democratic party, who are making calculations based on a picture of the world that no longer exists. ...

For decades, the Democratic party has been effectively controlled by the sort of people who work at an investment bank but also support gay marriage (at least when the polls say that it’s safe to do so). These people are almost as responsible as Republicans for our current political predicament. Even if they didn’t start the war on terror or the war on the poor, they utterly failed to stop them. The time has come to pay up for those mistakes. The price will be a large chunk of the fortunes that have been built over the past two generations. Those who view socialism as an awful fate are searching in every phone booth for a capitalist Superman to renew the tastefulness of the White House while also calming down the unnerving calls for the sort of equality that can cost a lot of money.


The Democratic elite have sucked all the blood out of the country and transfused it into China, impoverishing the vast majority of Americans between the coasts, and then insulting them for "racism" when they object to the pay for the remaining menial jobs being driven towards zero by literally tens of millions of illegals that Democrats protect.

Democrats deserve to lose again, and again, and again until they start doing what Trump is doing: boosting the economic prospects for ordinary people and not just for Jeff Bezos.
1   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2019 Nov 2, 5:14pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Much agreed Patrick.
2   Ceffer   ignore (4)   2019 Nov 2, 5:37pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Patrick will be goose stepping with a MAGA hat in the Castro pretty soon, avoiding sniper fire from AF!
4   marcus   ignore (11)   2019 Nov 3, 5:01pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

@Patrick.

What are the top 2 or 3 policies that you think democrats should back. Things that are doable, that would reflect them being far more in touch with today.

If there so out of touch, this should be easy to answer.

What should they promise voters ? Better paying jobs ? Pensions ? Better Health Care ?

What, caring and doing something about the environment and truly trying to bring about health care reform isn't enough for you ?

To hear you say it, one would think delivering such things is doable.

Perhaps we need a liar as good on the left as Trump is on the right ? Domocrats are too smart to buy such bullshit.
5   ignoreme   ignore (3)   2019 Nov 3, 5:25pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Stop illegal immigration. End H1B. Entry exit visa tracking. Mandatory e-verify. Ya know, things Democrats used to be for before Zuckerberg bought them. The things Trump ran on.
6   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Nov 3, 5:25pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

marcus says
What are the top 2 or 3 policies that you think democrats should back. Things that are doable, that would reflect them being far more in touch with today.


Thanks for asking @marcus !

1. Strong southern border defense.
2. Enforcement of penalties for hiring illegals.
3. Tariffs on Chinese-made goods to compensate for their currency devaluation and lack of environmental or labor laws.
7   mell   ignore (6)   2019 Nov 3, 6:12pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
marcus says
What are the top 2 or 3 policies that you think democrats should back. Things that are doable, that would reflect them being far more in touch with today.


Thanks for asking @marcus !

1. Strong southern border defense.
2. Enforcement of penalties for hiring illegals.
3. Tariffs on Chinese-made goods to compensate for their currency devaluation and lack of environmental or labor laws.


Add to this:

Strong rejection of the SJW culture (even Obama recently at least headed mildly into that direction), announce that you will treat everyone equal like the constitution demands.

Repeal affirmative action

Strong support for 1st amendment, reverse the course towards speech censorship.

Support 2A - add stronger checks if you will but do lot abolish 2A. Reverse course there to a more moderate stance.
8   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2019 Nov 4, 5:52am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

marcus says
What are the top 2 or 3 policies that you think democrats should back. Things that are doable, that would reflect them being far more in touch with today.

Stop being racist. Stop being corrupt.
9   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2019 Nov 4, 5:56am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

marcus says
What, caring and doing something about the environment and truly trying to bring about health care reform isn't enough for you ?

Global warming alarmism and Obamacare are not solutions to real problems but schemes to control people. They're 2 of the reasons we (me and many others) voted against Hillary.
10   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2019 Nov 4, 5:57am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

marcus says
Domocrats are too smart to buy such bullshit.

Yep, that's why we're voting for Tulsi.
11   marcus   ignore (11)   2019 Nov 4, 6:27am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Patrick says

Thanks for asking @marcus !

1. Strong southern border defense.


Obama managed to do this with out stirring up the hate, which accomplishes nothing good.







you answer confirmed what I thought 100%

Patrick says
Democratic party elites are out of touch



Politicizing an issue and saying our side will fix this and your side won't is not the motif of a politician that wants to work together with the other side to deal with serious problems. But it can work politically (getting elected) if too large a part of the electorate is overly prone to being manipulated with hate and fear.


Some people are out of touch with their very own emotional based opinions.
12   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2019 Nov 4, 6:39am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

marcus says

Some people are out of touch with their very own emotional based opinions.

Yeah, they believe co2 is going to make the world overheat and Trump is a racist idiot.
13   NoCoupForYou   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 4, 8:20am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

True or False: Trump has cut Rapefugees to about a quarter of what they were.
14   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Nov 4, 7:51pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

marcus says
Obama managed to do this with out stirring up the hate, which accomplishes nothing good.

2nd comment I've seen with these graphs. What are you trying to prove? That Obama hired a bunch of BP agents? And that we paid more money, for more agents to have less apprehensions? You seem to have an idea about these stats by saying "Obama managed to do this" WTF is this?

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