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Biden leads Trump by “Landslide” in new National poll.


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2019 Jun 12, 9:34am   4,520 views  64 comments

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“Former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Trump by 13 points nationally, according to the latest Quinnipiac University survey.

In a national head-to-head matchup, the poll found Biden taking 53 percent against 40 percent for Trump, with the poll's assistant director describing it as a "landslide" margin.

Five other Democratic contenders also lead the president: Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) hold healthy leads over Trump, with Sanders up by 9 points, Harris ahead by 8 and Warren leading by 7.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447972-biden-leads-trump-by-landslide-proportions-in-new-national-poll

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1   HeadSet   2019 Jun 12, 9:50am  

Too soon. May even have an unknown like Obama initially was come along.
2   Bd6r   2019 Jun 12, 9:50am  

A poll from Quinnipiac University released on Thursday gave Hillary Clinton a massive advantage over her Republican counterpart, Donald Trump, just 75 days before November's election.

The poll put Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, at 51% and Trump, the Republican nominee, at 41% in a head-to-head matchup.

"We are starting to hear the faint rumblings of a Hillary Clinton landslide as her 10-point lead is further proof that Donald Trump is in a downward spiral as the clock ticks," Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll, said in a statement.

Clinton's lead over Trump shrinks to 7 percentage points — 45% to Trump's 38% — when third-party candidates are added to the mix.

https://www.businessinsider.com/quinnipiac-poll-clinton-trump-landslide-2016-8
3   Shaman   2019 Jun 12, 9:57am  

So you’re saying the Q poll might be worthless?

Just to spitball the issue a bit, what might compell voters to change ships mid voyage while everything is going fairly well onboard?
Is it the constant controversy that is wearing and people are tired of it? Is it the way Trump is rather graceless In his responses to criticism? Is it just that some long for a return to the Obama years and Biden looks like that?
What’s going on?
4   socal2   2019 Jun 12, 10:13am  

Quigley says
So you’re saying the Q poll might be worthless?


Even Nate Silver says this poll (any poll) is worthless this far out.
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1138798587910000640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1138798587910000640%7Ctwgr%5E393039363b636f6e74726f6c&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fgregp-3534%2F2019%2F06%2F12%2Fdonald-trump-slams-the-polls-gets-an-assist-from-nate-silver-and-howard-dean%2F

I also think there is a sizable chunk of the electorate that are not keen on making their support for Trump known publicly lest they get harassed by Antifa and other SJW's who still have a dominant role in our culture.
5   joshuatrio   2019 Jun 12, 10:14am  

Sounds like when Hillary was running.
6   Ceffer   2019 Jun 12, 10:54am  

#Polls=FakeNewsAgitprop
7   Bd6r   2019 Jun 12, 11:11am  

Quigley says
So you’re saying the Q poll might be worthless?

Just to spitball the issue a bit, what might compell voters to change ships mid voyage while everything is going fairly well onboard?
Is it the constant controversy that is wearing and people are tired of it? Is it the way Trump is rather graceless In his responses to criticism? Is it just that some long for a return to the Obama years and Biden looks like that?
What’s going on?

I think poll is worthless for several reasons...

First, due to ORANGEMANBADRACIST mantra many people will not admit to pollsters that they will vote for Trump, just like last time.
Second, confirmation bias of media will result in selective choice of facts supporting what pollsters and their owners want to hear...
Third, since none of horrors promised after Trump election have happened despite media bleating (economic collapse, stock market collapse rise of racism and anti-womyn whatever, Putin running USA etc), people will be more likely to vote Trump than last time. If economy tanks then not, but that has not yet happened.
Fourth, Left is going off the rails to the point where honest left-wing people start pondering if D's (or at least many of them) are not out of their minds.
Fifth, it is too far from elections.
8   rdm   2019 Jun 12, 11:15am  

It is too early but what it shows, and it is not an outlier is that Trump's overall popularity verses a mundane Dem is low. And is the economy going to get better? That is very unlikely.

His biggest problem is that his path to 270 electoral votes is extremely narrow. In the 3 states that gave him a win (by a combined about 80K votes) the Dems did very well in 2018, Penn., Mich. Wis. He has very little margin for error and he knows it. He has not expanded his base and so has poor chances to win in any states Clinton carried though they are going to try. The Trump cake is pretty much baked especially against a known or middle of the road Dem. His approval goes up and down a few points. Everyone now knows what 4 more years of Trump will be like, He is very polarizing ( see Pat.net), you either love or hate I doubt more than a few % are truly undecided even this far out, so the billions that are going to be spent will not move many people. Get out the vote on the Dem side and voter suppression on the Repub. side are going to be key.
9   Tenpoundbass   2019 Jun 12, 11:18am  

My Money is on Biden to go to jail before November 2020.
10   Bd6r   2019 Jun 12, 11:18am  

rdm says
He is very polarizing

I'd say election of Trump is the logical result of polarizing D's demonizing Fucking White Males, who oppress minorities, womyn, transgendereds, are responsible for all evil in the world, and should never be hired + 1000000 genders and other assorted insanity.
11   Tenpoundbass   2019 Jun 12, 11:18am  

Michelle Obama is going to be a little busy too, visiting his Husband in Federal prison.
12   HeadSet   2019 Jun 12, 11:28am  

voter suppression on the Repub. side

That is dog whistle for purging the voter roles of the dead, moved away, or illegals.
13   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jun 12, 11:29am  

Contrary to the Fredo Cons, any and all states (esp. Florida) with Republican Governors need to be all Uncle Joe on the voter rolls and purge purge purge till some Libby Court takes the ability away.

Unfortunately the stupid ass Felons Voting referendum was passed in Florida.

It's also time to go on the super offensive, not simply defend against "Right to Vote" Lawfare Challenges from the Dems, and come up with all kinds of new vetting rules in Florida and Texas. Recent Utility bills, State or Federal issued Picture ID mandatory, get rid of Motor Voting/Absentee Voting entirely or at least mandate a photocopy of picture ID and utility bill when it's mailed in.

Make the Dems try to defend against new laws, rather than them spending time trying to water down or invalidate existing Voter Validation laws.
14   Tenpoundbass   2019 Jun 12, 11:33am  

HonkpilledMaster says
Unfortunately the stupid ass Felons Voting referendum was passed in Florida.


Felons don't have their shit together. Not the ones that are fuck ups and are destined to go back to jail. I would wager most Left leaning non-rehabilitated Ex cons. Won't participate in Politics. They are thinking about their next score not who's going to be the best politician in a race.
Now the rehabilitated ones will be conservative. IF they register, they aren't going to vote for the Candidate who's policy made it easy for them to end up in Prison in the first place.

This is why Liberals want to do away with incarcerations all together, so being a Liberal has no consequences.
15   NDrLoR   2019 Jun 12, 11:35am  

Quigley says
Trump is rather graceless In his responses to criticism
Yes, he responds to it. Horrors!
16   HeadSet   2019 Jun 12, 11:47am  

I would wager most Left leaning non-rehabilitated Ex cons. Won't participate in Politics.

Have you forgot vote harvesting? Just need some activist to bring them a ballot to sign. Ex-con won't even have to fill it out. Gets a carton of smokes, too.
17   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jun 12, 11:51am  

Yep, good old Absentee Ballots.

Community Organizer gets a list of ex-cons or registered voters, knocks on door, gets ballot to sign. Or just forges the name. Votes blue all the way down the ticket. Brings 50 of them at a time to the ol' mail box.
18   rdm   2019 Jun 12, 12:35pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
gets a list of ex-cons or registered voters, knocks on door, gets ballot to sign. Or just forges the name.


Yep just like what happened in North Carolina...by Republicans.

By the way what were the results of Trump's voter fraud commission? Did they ever get to the bottom of the 3 million fraudulent Clinton voters who gave Clinton the popular vote? Fake news?

"But things didn’t go well for him in the Kansas City courtroom, as Robinson’s opinion made clear. Kobach’s strongest evidence of non-citizen registration was anemic at best: Over a 20-year period, fewer than 40 non-citizens had attempted to register in one Kansas county that had 130,000 voters. Most of those 40 improper registrations were the result of mistakes or confusion rather than intentional attempts to mislead, and only five of the 40 managed to cast a vote.

One of Kobach’s own experts even rebutted arguments made by both Kobach and President Donald Trump. The expert testified that a handful of improper registrations could not be extrapolated to conclude that 2.8 million fraudulent votes — roughly, the gap between Hillary Clinton and Trump in the popular vote tally — had been cast in the 2016 presidential election. Testimony from a second key expert for Kobach also fizzled.

As the judge’s opinion noted, Kobach insisted the meager instances of cheating revealed at trial are just “the tip of the iceberg.” As she explained, “This trial was his opportunity to produce credible evidence of that iceberg, but he failed to do so.” Dismissing the testimony by Kobach’s witnesses as unpersuasive, Robinson drew what she called “the more obvious conclusion that there is no iceberg; only an icicle largely created by confusion and administrative error.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/kris-kobach-voter-fraud-kansas-trial

Fact is you cant get registered voters off their ass to vote, the idea that people will (intentionally) fraudulently vote in any significant numbers is on its face ridiculous. Voter fraud is a very minor problem used as an excuse to make it harder for minorities, students and low income people to vote.
19   socal2   2019 Jun 12, 12:40pm  

rdm says
Voter fraud is a very minor problem used as an excuse to make it harder for minorities, students and low income people to vote.


I'd wager there is a higher percentage of voter fraud than there are number of people who are super motivated to vote, but don't have the wherewithal to get a simple photo ID.

Why are Lefties so racist to think black people are incapable of getting ID's and functioning in society?
20   Bd6r   2019 Jun 12, 12:43pm  

socal2 says
don't have the wherewithal to get a simple photo ID

That has always been a mystery for me - how come getting a photo ID is so difficult that requirement to have it is automatically racism/voter suppression etc?
21   socal2   2019 Jun 12, 12:46pm  

d6rB says
That has always been a mystery for me - how come getting a photo ID is so difficult that requirement to have it is automatically racism/voter suppression etc?





www.youtube.com/embed/rrBxZGWCdgs
23   rdm   2019 Jun 12, 1:27pm  

d6rB says
photo ID is so difficult that requirement to have it is automatically racism/voter suppression etc?


It is true it is motivation as I said a lot people are not motivated to vote. So by making it a little or a lot harder say by moving the one voting station 2 miles outside of town ( shit hole Dodge City, Kansas) or requiring a person without a drivers licence or passport to have a photo ID and then make it difficult to get. They just say fuck it why bother. Who are the people without a photo ID? The poor and minorities, who do they tend to vote for? That is how it works and everyone knows it. Do we want wider participation in elections or narrower? Isn't that the essential question? In their own self-interest Republicans want narrower and Dems want wider. And so it goes.
24   Ceffer   2019 Jun 12, 1:38pm  

It took this long into the Trump administration for Obama to improve the economy.
25   socal2   2019 Jun 12, 1:45pm  

rdm says
Who are the people without a photo ID? The poor and minorities, who do they tend to vote for?


Lots of quasi-racist assumptions here. All the black people in the video from Harlem were incredulous that white liberals thought they couldn't get ID's.

rdm says
Do we want wider participation in elections or narrower? Isn't that the essential question? In their own self-interest Republicans want narrower and Dems want wider. And so it goes.


Honestly, I don't want people voting who are too lazy or totally incapable of getting a photo ID.

Seriously, what percentage of people in the US (who are LEGAL residents) can function in society without some reasonable ID?
26   RC2006   2019 Jun 12, 1:51pm  

Its all about Democrates wanting fraudulent votes, voter id laws should have the same effect on all groups/races unless of course dems are trying to say minorities and dems in general are more incompetent,stupid, or more lazy than Republicans.
27   rdm   2019 Jun 12, 2:14pm  

Well you might as well just chill, fuck the fake news, no worries, right from the horse's mouth, America you can sleep well tonight, you can take this to the bank...ruptcy, :

"President Trump bristled Wednesday at a report that his reelection campaign’s internal polling shows him trailing Democrat Joe Biden in several key states and claimed without evidence that those polls actually show him leading in every state his campaign has surveyed.

“We have great internal polling,” Trump said during an Oval Office meeting with visiting Polish President Polish President Andrzej Duda. “We are winning in every single state that we polled.”
29   Bd6r   2019 Jun 12, 3:08pm  

rdm says
Who are the people without a photo ID?


When I was poor in 1990's (aka my income was ca. 6000/year), I had no trouble getting first a photo ID and then drivers license (after buying a $400 "car"). I don't really believe that this requires much effort and intelligence.

rdm says
The poor and minorities, who do they tend to vote for?


Not as simple question to answer. In countryside, where getting to polling place is more difficult than in cities, even Hispanics are shifting towards right. See https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/11/17/rural-hispanic-voters-like-white-rural-voters-shifted-toward-trump-heres-why/?utm_term=.e1d92f0e0707
Perhaps republicans should start busing rural voters to polling stations...
32   Tenpoundbass   2019 Jun 12, 6:30pm  

I think the worst thing the Democrats and the Media can do this election. Is lie and hype who ever Trump's opponent is beating him by a huge number.
That is going to panic people in droves to get out and vote that set out 2016. But are far more enlightened this time around.

If I were the DNC I would over sell Trump's numbers and try to get Trump's supporters complacent while I ran a low keyed ground game in the back ground.
I would to the grassroots canvasing very low keyed and under reported or promoted.
33   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jun 12, 6:33pm  

Agreed. But, we're dealing with Princeton/Brown/Emmerson School of Communications Graduates so let's see.
34   mell   2019 Jun 12, 7:44pm  

socal2 says
Quigley says
So you’re saying the Q poll might be worthless?


Even Nate Silver says this poll (any poll) is worthless this far out.
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1138798587910000640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1138798587910000640%7Ctwgr%5E393039363b636f6e74726f6c&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fgregp-3534%2F2019%2F06%2F12%2Fdonald-trump-slams-the-polls-gets-an-assist-from-nate-silver-and-howard-dean%2F

I also think there is a sizable chunk of the electorate that are not keen on making their support for Trump known pu...


This is it mainly. Most Trump voters either don't get selected for survey by the biased lamestream pollster media or they won't tell anyone they're voting Trump. Polls are mostly worthless in such a screeching leftoid-induced biased and anti free speech political climate.
35   CBOEtrader   2019 Jun 13, 4:40am  

d6rB says
"We are starting to hear the faint rumblings of a Hillary Clinton landslide as her 10-point lead is further proof that Donald Trump is in a downward spiral as the clock ticks," Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll, said in a statement.


In other totally not fake news https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/10/donald-trump-resigns-tv-writers-imagine
36   BayArea   2019 Jun 13, 6:10am  

The polling industry has exactly zero credibility since the 2016 election.

Silent majority will be responsible for a Trump landslide victory in 2020.
37   Tenpoundbass   2019 Jun 13, 6:42am  

BayArea says
Silent majority will be responsible for a Trump landslide victory in 2020.


We'll have to deport the Illegal Majority first.
38   Shaman   2019 Jun 13, 7:25am  

So in essence, the Q poll is utterly unreliable. Seems like it has a pretty poor history of inaccuracy and outright lying.
39   rdm   2019 Jun 13, 9:04am  

Quigley says
So in essence, the Q poll is utterly unreliable


Yes, I prefer the Reed Cooper poll. The Q poll is clearly biased.

"Reed Cooper is fourteen-year-old Trump activist who runs Reed Cooper News. He combats liberal fake news outlets and fights for President Trump every day."
40   CBOEtrader   2019 Jun 13, 9:19am  

It's hilarious watching the brainwashed stay brainwashed.

When will the blind mice find the cheese?

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