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10 million people off food stamps since Trump became POTUS

By Shaman follow Shaman   2019 May 28, 8:55am 980 views   14 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


People keep saying that the unemployment numbers are almost unchanged since Obama left office, but that’s because so many people are coming off welfare and long term unemployment status to take jobs for the first time in a long time. We are spending less and less on welfare as more people find decent jobs and gain a sense of self worth, responsibility, and a sense of being invested in their communities. A job is not just income. It’s a way of participating in America, a way of becoming valid, and a way of self-defining as a person of value.
Trump’s handling of the economy has given millions the chance to have such jobs and this has made America much better than when Obama lurked in the Oval Office, trolling the incarceration lists for drug dealers to pardon.

The photo is from SNAP website, part of the chart you can download here.
https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/resource-files/34SNAPmonthly-4.pdf
1   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2019 May 28, 10:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

How do you know they voluntarily left the program, and weren't just booted? In California I lived in some blue collar neighborhoods, things weren't improving for those people. Could tell by the way their houses looked. What about the record homeless in LA? What about the guys I see panhandling in Phoenix, standing in the sun and 90 degree weather? What about all the business's declaring bankruptcy, and empty store fronts?
2   HEYYOU   ignore (46)   2019 May 28, 10:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

How many Rep/Cons are off or have been booted from their Rep/Con big govt. socialism?
How many Rep/Cons are still on their Rep/Con big govt. handouts & subsidies?
When we get all the failure Republicans off socialism then I'll jump the Dumb "Want something for nothing" Democrats.
3   socal2   ignore (2)   2019 May 28, 11:00am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
In California I lived in some blue collar neighborhoods, things weren't improving for those people. Could tell by the way their houses looked. What about the record homeless in LA?


I think California is an outlier. Most of the country is not run top to bottom by "progressive" retards like we have in California which is bleeding middle class workers (like you?) to Arizona and Texas.

Along with our nice weather, California incentivizes homelessness with needle exchange programs and a generally hands off approach to dealing with vagrancy.
4   Shaman   ignore (2)   2019 May 28, 11:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
How do you know they voluntarily left the program, and weren't just booted? In California I lived in some blue collar neighborhoods, things weren't improving for those people. Could tell by the way their houses looked. What about the record homeless in LA? What about the guys I see panhandling in Phoenix, standing in the sun and 90 degree weather? What about all the business's declaring bankruptcy, and empty store fronts?


Let’s take this point by point:
1)I don’t care if they were booted. Great! Go produce or starve! America is better off either way.
2)So a house in need of maintenance is a sign of a poor economy? Yah or that an old person is dying there. Or just that the inhabitants are renters and don’t give a shit about the property. There are lots of alternative explanations.
3)California especially is a good place to get off welfare and get to work. The minimum wage is $12 and rising to $15 in a few years incrementally. That’s a decent wage, and I see help wanted signs fucking EVERYWHERE! Chances are the real wage for service jobs is something more than that $12.
3)The homelessness is a product of two things: 1)tolerance of homelessness as a lifestyle, and 2)not enough low income places to live. Also tolerance of public drug use, petty theft, etc. Prop 47 made misdemeanors not worth prosecuting in California, so the homeless just steal as they like, and not much business owners or the public can do about it.
4)Panhandlers exist because people give them money and that’s easier than working. Stop giving them money! If they wanted to improve their lives, they would take advantage of the many programs offered by both government and private charities to help them do that. If you or I landed on the street with nothing, we’d be off the street again in days, not months or years. These people just enjoy the lifestyle, and enjoy their addictions.
5) Businesses are dropping because of the online market. That’s pretty much it. The ones that were marginally competitive, aren’t anymore, and go out of business.
5   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2019 May 29, 12:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
1)I don’t care if they were booted. Great! Go produce or starve! America is better off either way.


Agreed, but my point is number of people on food stamps doesn't automatically correlate to an improved economy for all.

Quigley says
2)So a house in need of maintenance is a sign of a poor economy? Yah or that an old person is dying there. Or just that the inhabitants are renters and don’t give a shit about the property. There are lots of alternative explanations.


Not the case for the neighborhoods I'm talking about. There were improvements done at one point that clearly point to home ownership, fountains, solar panels, and the people were not old or handicapped. Could tell the money wasn't there for the small things anymore(watering, running the fountain, exterior looking worn).

We lived in a particular area of Chula Vista for a number of years, and noticed less people were handing out candy, decorating for Halloween, doing extras like a pop-corn machines, than what we were used to when we started living there. More of a mix of renters and owners in that area, but had a real community spirit. So did the last area we lived in, lots of historical houses in the area. People just don't have the money they did a couple years ago, me included. If economy is better, why did someone who makes six figures(low, but still six), have to move to Phoenix?

Quigley says
3)California especially is a good place to get off welfare and get to work. The minimum wage is $12 and rising to $15 in a few years incrementally. That’s a decent wage, and I see help wanted signs fucking EVERYWHERE! Chances are the real wage for service jobs is something more than that $12.


My daughter is a waitress, minimum wage is $11, not $12. She tried getting a better job, something she can do while she attends college, but that's the best she can do. In Phoenix she would have a lot more opportunities. In California, not so much. She's going with another girl on a apartment, $2,000 for 2/2. Let's see, what percentage of her income will that come out to? There is no middle class in California anymore. You're either poor, rich, or about to be poor thinking your middle class(meaning up your eyeballs in debt).

Regarding the homeless, yes, some definitely have mental issues and choose to live that way, but to say the record number of homeless are all choosing that life is ridiculous.

Some businesss's are certainly not staying relevant and fading because of outdated models, but again, to assume that's all is illogical. Many business's are the result of the current economic bubble, where people paid for ridiculous things they have no need of. As the bubble pops, and extra income shrinks, those business's feel the brunt of the collapse, as they represent frivolous expenditures people can no longer afford to make.

Don't confuse inflation with prosperity, unless you like living the Venezuela life.
6   OccasionalCortex   ignore (4)   2019 May 29, 12:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

To the Left, this is a bad thing. No, serously. That is exactly how they view it.
7   OccasionalCortex   ignore (4)   2019 May 29, 12:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
In California


that's it in a nutshell. The new $15 min wage is not affordable for businesses in Bakersfield, for example. But the Libtards running Sac are totally clueless to that fact.
8   Shaman   ignore (2)   2019 May 29, 2:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
My daughter is a waitress, minimum wage is $11, not $12.


Well that’s an interesting anecdote, but I guess it’s my fault for not clarifying. Small business minimum wage (under 50 employees) is $11/hour. So she’d make a larger base wage at Burger King If tips aren’t an option. At $11, I calculate $1750 gross wage monthly, probably taxes about 10%, so roughly $1500 net. That’s rent and $500 to live on. Not much, but I expect she makes at least that much again in tips, so she’ll be able to afford a phone and some basic things. Sucks being poor! Done it, moved past it. It’s a phase unless you wallow in it or make bad choices over and over.
9   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2019 May 29, 3:19pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sucks being poor! Done it, moved past it.

Yes, that is part of growing up. Best to be poor when just starting out and thus be motivated to move out of it (and stay out of it).
10   rd6B   ignore (1)   2019 May 29, 3:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

tRUMP moved all poor people off from food stamps and into concentration camps in preparation for his dictatorial takeover of power.
11   EBGuy   ignore (1)   2019 May 29, 5:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SSDI Trust continues to become more solvent with each passing year.
The Social Security Board of Trustees released projections last month showing the Social Security Disability Insurance Trust Fund will remain solvent at current funding levels until 2052—20 years longer than last year’s projection.
12   Booger   ignore (4)   2019 May 29, 6:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

d6rB says
tRUMP moved all poor people off from food stamps and into concentration camps in preparation for his dictatorial takeover of power.


ERECTION INTENSIFYING!!!
13   socal2   ignore (2)   2019 May 29, 6:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
If economy is better, why did someone who makes six figures(low, but still six), have to move to Phoenix?


Because California real estate is all fucked up ..........which has been discussed on numerous threads on this website.

I was fortunate to buy in Carlsbad in 2011 when the market tanked. Carlsbad voters passed a proposition in the 1980's limiting development to keep nearly 40% open space. While I love that I "got mine" and have all this open space and great place to raise a family, I do feel bad as I realize it makes it super expensive and worry that my children will not be able to afford to live here.

That said, I can't think of too many places in the US that are nicer to live than where I am at. I am very fortunate.
14   Shaman   ignore (2)   2019 May 29, 6:47pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RafiMaas says
I understand there’s no evidence to exonerate the OP of being a goat fucker.
Therefore he’s probably one.
Right?


Feel that? That’s pride fuckin’ wit’ chu. You got to move past that shit. You dig?

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