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Tired of picking on Marcus


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2019 Mar 23, 10:58am   4,893 views  65 comments

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We need to recruit more leftist types who do their orange man bad prance around this place.

Plan? What if I clone @marcus's orange man bad meme thread, post his memes one by one to twitter w a link to pat.net so as to join the conversation?

That's right, I'm proposing a twitter Marcus-bot, to make friendly like w the leftists.

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1   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Mar 23, 11:14am  

Doesn’t Marcus, Jazz, kaki and dew others do that very well already?

Some days all I see is tds threads on page 1. Not complaining, just saying what I see.
2   Bd6r   2019 Mar 23, 11:18am  

Just like some Patnetters here (quite justifiably) gloat about our left-wing comrades who were telling us for the longest time that Trump will be indicted by Mueller tomorrow, I am fairly certain that our left wing comrades will get back at majority here when Trump tax cuts finally detonate US budget.

We should not be foolishly optimistic about anyone, be it St. Obama, protector of Womyn and Minorities, or Yuugest Golden Leader Trump, the Greatest Man, Woman, and Child in Universe.
3   Shaman   2019 Mar 23, 11:24am  

I concur that we need more Leftist types to pick on. I fear they are growing weary of being owned by relentless logic. Or perhaps it’s the daily humiliation of trying to defend laughable positions with a strong sense of affrontery.

Either way, we need more grist for the mill. Striver types who bought into the “the elites will love us if we do and say all the right things and go to the right universities and take the right jobs with the right companies!” And wound up doing a truffle shuffle while saddled with a yuuuge student loan.
4   Ceffer   2019 Mar 23, 11:26am  

Politics are tied in with economic self interest. You see this with all the school/ public service union types. Don't even try reason or 'good of the public/economy' at large.
5   Shaman   2019 Mar 23, 11:29am  

WaltertheoFlanders says
Plan and simple it's the moderation of the site, prove me wrong.


If you are correct, and the moderators are abusing their power, then this comment you wrote will be nuked shortly and my quote will be the only record it ever existed.

You’re welcome.
6   AD   2019 Mar 23, 11:32am  

WaltertheoFlanders says
Plain and simple it's the moderation of the site, prove me wrong.


You mean you want censorship and control of anyone who does not toe the open borders, left wing line ?

Sounds like you want for this patrick.net board to be what you want for America, that is a Chinese-style, left wing authoritarian government in charge.
7   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Mar 23, 11:41am  

Elgatouno says
Lol too funny! Are we admitting the echo chamber transformation is complete?


This is utterly absurd.

The political forums here were so left leaning at one point that center of the road posters couldn't get a word in.

Assuming Elgatouno is a long time poster who has created a new account, Elgatouno would know that and not only that, but wouldn't care.

Thereby rendering any echo chamber post absolute bullshit, by virtue of hypocrisy.

I guess dolts are allowed to say anything they want, but it comes off as sub 70 IQ'ish.
8   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Mar 23, 11:42am  

RafiMaas says


Wrong again,

Plain and simple it's the moderation of the site, prove me wrong.


Another long time poster with a new account, posting rubbish.
9   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Mar 23, 11:42am  

WaltertheoFlanders says
Quigley says
Or perhaps it’s the daily humiliation of trying to defend laughable positions with a strong sense of affrontery.


Wrong again,

Plain and simple it's the moderation of the site, prove me wrong.


Try breathing with your mouth closed.
10   Bd6r   2019 Mar 23, 11:44am  

WaltertheoFlanders says
Plain and simple it's the moderation of the site

Just write "your idea is stupid because..." instead of "you are stupid because..." and it will be OK, I think
11   mell   2019 Mar 23, 11:45am  

I like Marcus although we have different views. He usually tries to engage without attacks and is interested in Jordan Peterson.
12   Bd6r   2019 Mar 23, 11:46am  

WaltertheoFlanders says
fasten your seatbelt shit could be getting bumpy

it will, question is how soon
13   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Mar 23, 11:49am  

WaltertheoFlanders says
d6rB says
WaltertheoFlanders says
Plain and simple it's the moderation of the site

Just write "your idea is stupid because..." instead of "you are stupid because..." and it will be OK, I think


One shouldn't have to complain to Patrick when his wishes aren't being followed. Unfortunately really can't say much about moderation policy because if I make it specific it's anti-forum and censored.


Even more pointed, its braindead mouse droppings.
14   Tenpoundbass   2019 Mar 23, 11:56am  

Fuck the Marcusonians for they are the one teaching these sorry cock suckers to go out beat on peaceful people who peacefully oppose everything the Marcusonians stands for, for the very reason, that the Marcusites and their Ilk are doing. Hiding behind our Youth because they had a pathetic wasted life.
15   mell   2019 Mar 23, 12:07pm  

Tenpoundbass says
Fuck the Marcusonians for they are the one teaching these sorry cock suckers to go out beat on peaceful people who peacefully oppose everything the Marcusonians stands for, for the very reason, that the Marcusites and their Ilk are doing. Hiding behind our Youth because they had a pathetic wasted life.


I don't think Marcus is that extreme. There are far far more extreme academics. You think he teaches kids to do that?
16   Patrick   2019 Mar 23, 12:53pm  

I don't like threads to be about specific people.

The goal, for me, is honest debate with other people of good will.

@marcus I'm glad you're still here and put up with a lot of abuse over the years. You're very patient and I think a good person.
17   Tenpoundbass   2019 Mar 23, 1:27pm  

mell says
I don't think Marcus is that extreme. There are far far more extreme academics. You think he teaches kids to do that?


He doesn't denouce them.

Patrick says
@marcus I'm glad you're still here and put up with a lot of abuse over the years. You're very patient and I think a good person.


At the end of the day I am too, and also thinks he's a decent person. It's just that he like most Democrats refuse to ever call out bad actors. We do so willingly all the time.
We're even supposed to call out bad crap that is projected onto us all the time when facts don't even matter.
Every Democrat I know still stands behind Sheriff Israel, Brenda Snipes, Debie Wasserman Shultz, Hillary Clinton, the pathetic race baiting Kangaroo Court that is the Congressional Black Caucus when they drill people with partisan race baiting and pandering. Yet shut down Gaetz and Jordan when they seek the truth from Google, Facebook and Twiiter executives. It was a pathetic display of Democracy, and yet every Democrat I know threw "Whataboutism" But TRUMP! back in my face when you point it out.

What about Trump and Russia. Now you think any of them will say they were wrong or there's a possibility they were wrong about Trump and Russia?

No! Fuck No they Wont!
19   anonymous   2019 Mar 23, 3:57pm  

Quigley says
If you are correct, and the moderators are abusing their power, then this comment you wrote will be nuked shortly and my quote will be the only record it ever existed.

You’re welcome.


He is correct, things just disappear quietly, not when attention is called to them unless really bad.

Kind of like this thread that disappeared when first put up as a comment a few days back - http://patrick.net/post/1323352/2019-03-23-perfect-trump-re-election-slogan-i-don-t-keep-any-promises-but-my-voters-are-too-stupid-to-notice

Perhaps a quirk in the coding or something...maybe a time delay. I bet that is it - a time delay that takes place once the poster / commenter goes off line.
20   MrMagic   2019 Mar 23, 6:45pm  

CBOEtrader says
Tired of picking on Marcus


Why, he makes it so easy and sets himself up for it?
21   LastMan   2019 Mar 23, 6:57pm  

I'm surprised that any left leaning posters still post here. It must be painful. I wish that there was a fiscally conservative presence on Patnet so I'd feel more at home.
22   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 23, 8:34pm  

My draw drops at some of the positions Marcus holds and clings to after a long time, but it's fun having him around. I think he's decent, just too trusting that MSM is being truthful and doesn't have an agenda.
23   marcus   2019 Mar 23, 11:02pm  

Tenpoundbass says
It's just that he like most Democrats refuse to ever call out bad actors. We do so willingly all the time.


LEt me know when you're going to start calling out Trump for his lies. OR when you you're going to start seeing through Brietbarts dishonest bullshit.

Besides, if you paid attention, you'd know that I'm not a fan of the far left SJW types and certainly not those 17 antifa creeps.

But I think it's a provable lie that the left are the most dangerous, or the more violent. Even TPB himself has threatened extreme violence if Trump were to be removed from office. So I find his holier than though bullshit to be about as disingenuous as half of the other stuff he says.
24   marcus   2019 Mar 23, 11:09pm  

Tenpoundbass says
What about Trump and Russia. Now you think any of them will say they were wrong or there's a possibility they were wrong about Trump and Russia?


Hillary hasn't been indicted for all of her alleged crimes against the country. How come you haven't admitted you're wrong about her ? Have you admitted that it's possible you are wrong ?

SOmehow when it comes to TRump, not having enough proof to indict a sitting President is now proof of innocence ? Why ?
25   MrMagic   2019 Mar 24, 8:19am  

marcus says
Hillary hasn't been indicted YET for all of her alleged crimes against the country.


There, I had to fix that for you.

There's still plenty of time.

Maybe Trump will go after her and all her buddies once this Mueller farce is completed this week.

marcus says
SOmehow when it comes to TRump, not having enough proof to indict a sitting President is now proof of innocence ? Why ?


What about all his family members? How many of them were indicted for Russian collusion? They're not the president.

Hmmmmm....
26   CBOEtrader   2019 Mar 24, 8:24am  

marcus says
LEt me know when you're going to start calling out Trump for his lies.


Which lies are that?

marcus says
OR when you you're going to start seeing through Brietbarts dishonest bullshit.


Lol Breitbart is kissing cousins w Huffpo. All click bait garbage.

The difference, imo, is that the left today is actively dividing us, calling half the country deplorables, and generally lost in a sea of lies and misguided righteousness.

Therefore Huffpo's lies result in violence and oppression, whereas Breitbart is merely a good laugh.
27   CBOEtrader   2019 Mar 24, 8:27am  

marcus says
*not having enough* proof to indict a sitting President is now proof of innocence ? Why ?


I think you mean zero evidence isnt enough to indict, which is laughably correct. Your statement smacks of desperation to latch onto the lies you've been sold. Sorry, it's all a lie man. There is zero evidence of collussion w trump. Not even a shred

No see, there was proof that HRC commited crimes, yet somehow those weren't "enough" for Comey to reco indictment.

W Trump, there is no crime. OR, no evidence whatsoever of a crime.
28   Onvacation   2019 Mar 24, 8:27am  

marcus says
not having enough proof to indict a sitting President is now proof of innocence ? Why ?

Because in America you are innocent until PROVEN guilty.
29   CBOEtrader   2019 Mar 24, 8:31am  

MrMagic says
CBOEtrader says
Tired of picking on Marcus


Why, he makes it so easy and sets himself up for it?


He wont engage. He says Trump is a liar, but wont support the assertion.

He wont support any assertion. That's the problem.

I want to find confident, well researched anti-trumpers to give actual criticism of trump. Points that perhaps we'd miss when arguing w "muh racism" idiots.

I've even tried to start the Trump criticisms myself, hoping the reasonable leftists would illuminate the reasonable critiques of our glorious leader.

Nope. Nothing. The anti-trumpers here just link to some fake news article, proclaim their side to be educated and Trump supporters to be deplorable. It's completely devoid of thought, unique or otherwise
30   marcus   2019 Mar 24, 8:55am  

CBOEtrader says
He wont engage


Why should I engage with someone that denies Trump is a liar ? I doubt that even FortWayne or TPB would agree with you about TRump not lying. EVen the stupedist TRump Cucks on the planet know he's a pathological liar. Someone has to be a pathological liar themselves do deny Trump's lies.

I always thought you were a decent person. But on the subject of Trump you lose your moral compass or don't have one youif are going to deny his constant lying.
31   marcus   2019 Mar 24, 9:01am  

CBOEtrader says
proclaim their side to be educated and Trump supporters to be deplorable. It's completely devoid of thought, unique or otherwise


TRanslation: "Trump is a dirtbag, but he's our dirtbag. We like him."

CBOEtrader says
Your statement smacks of desperation


You're the one with TDS. The other kind of TDS (Trump D Sucker). I'm just a reality based guy, hoping we all make it through this, and it's aftermath.
32   CBOEtrader   2019 Mar 24, 9:19am  

marcus says
CBOEtrader says
proclaim their side to be educated and Trump supporters to be deplorable. It's completely devoid of thought, unique or otherwise


TRanslation: "Trump is a dirtbag, but he's our dirtbag. We like him."


No, my comment was about your teams lack of rationale. Had nothing to do w trump. I am reminded of patricks comment on another thread.

This obvious lack of any rational support, or even a cohesive worldview proves TDS to be about justifying hate. TDS has nothing to do w the rational world.

Ex: @Marcus cant even support his basic assertions, but you sure can call everyone deplorable or uneducated. Narcissism is easy. Rational critique is hard
33   CBOEtrader   2019 Mar 24, 9:22am  

marcus says
I doubt that even FortWayne or TPB would agree with you about TRump not lying. EVen the stupedist TRump Cucks on the planet know he's a pathological liar. Someone has to be a pathological liar themselves do deny Trump's lies.


Lol, we can see the TDS playing out in front of our eyes. This is an emotional reaction due to brainwashing. You can tell via the use of progressively more extreme verbiage, while completely vacuous of actual content (again).

You literally cant provide one lie to discuss, dude. Give it up.
34   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Mar 24, 9:31am  

Dude when are you going to see through the leftist lies of cnn, dailybeast, etc...

Oh that’s right, you like to live in a bubble by putting disagreements on ignore. 20th century bloodshed taught you nothing. Leftist ideology murdered millions.

Don’t care if Trump is honest, just get shit done and I’m happy.

marcus says
Tenpoundbass says
It's just that he like most Democrats refuse to ever call out bad actors. We do so willingly all the time.


LEt me know when you're going to start calling out Trump for his lies. OR when you you're going to start seeing through Brietbarts dishonest bullshit.

Besides, if you paid attention, you'd know that I'm not a fan of the far left SJW types and certainly not those 17 antifa creeps.

But I think it's a provable lie that the left are the most dangerous, or the more violent. Even TPB himself has threatened extreme violence if Trump were to be removed from office. So I find his holier than though bullshit to be about as disingenuous as half of the other stuff he says.
35   marcus   2019 Mar 24, 9:43am  

personal
36   marcus   2019 Mar 24, 9:51am  

CBOEtrader says
You literally cant provide one lie to discuss


I'll give you two lies, but I'm not interested in discussing them with someone that's perhaps a bigger liar than Trump. (Even Trump knows that honesty isn't his scene).


"WE'RE BUILDING THE WALL."
“We’re building the wall as we speak,” the president said on Fox News in October 2018. “MEXICO IS PAYING FOR THE WALL ,” he tweeted on Dec. 13. "We are already building and renovating many miles of Wall, some complete," he tweeted on Christmas Eve.

Two years after campaigning on a promise to build a big, beautiful concrete wall — not a fence — along the nation’s southern border that Mexico would pay for, Trump declared victory, telling Americans that quite a bit of his border wall has been built, the government is building more and that Mexico is paying for it, albeit indirectly. There's just one problem: none of that is true.


He was calling ongoing repair and extension of fences, "building the wall." This bullshit is what triggered Ann Coulter a couple months ago, leading to all the ensuing madness govt shutdown etc. Trump's Precedency really is a shit show in a dumpster fire, or whatever Conway's quote was.


“All Republicans support people with pre-existing conditions, and if they don't, they will after I speak to them," Trump tweeted in October. "I am in total support."

The facts don't back Trump up here.

The Trump administration backed Republican-led states in a lawsuit that claims Obamacare's protections for pre-existing conditions are illegal, and a federal court ruled the law unconstitutional in December. If the Supreme Court confirms the ruling, insurers would be able to start denying coverage to those people. The White House has not proposed alternative legislation that would offer those with pre-existing conditions the protections Obamacare gives consumers.

Republicans have spent years trying to repeal Obamacare, and the GOP health care bills proposed — and voted on — over the course of the past year would have softened such protections, in some cases allowing insurers to deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions.
37   CBOEtrader   2019 Mar 24, 10:01am  

marcus says
I'll give you two lies


I appreciate you playing along, bro :)
38   CBOEtrader   2019 Mar 24, 10:08am  

marcus says
WE'RE BUILDING THE WALL."
“We’re building the wall as we speak,” the president said on Fox News in October 2018. “MEXICO IS PAYING FOR THE WALL


This is a good example of taking a misinterpretation and calling that misinterpretation a lie. "We're building the wall" can mean anything involving the process of building the wall. Planning stage, prototype stage, hiring stage, etc... all have to happen before concrete and steal are laid. If you narrowly interpret 140 character tweets, you will continue to find lies where there are none.

Mexico is paying for the wall via better trade deals. At least, that is my understanding of Trumps statement.

Again, you can narrowly interpret whatever you want. A criticism of Trump COULD BE that his communication style allows for interpretation rather than being more specific. In fact, this was one of MY criticisms of Trump on my realistic anti-Trump thread. However, to narrowly interpret someone else's words into a known lie, then to fact check your own interpretation as a lie =>> that's how you fake news, bro.
39   CBOEtrader   2019 Mar 24, 10:15am  

marcus says

“All Republicans support people with pre-existing conditions, and if they don't, they will after I speak to them," Trump tweeted in October. "I am in total support."

The facts don't back Trump up here.


Which facts? I certainly didnt read the legal filings, and neither did you. If you can find the place or the phrase or even someone representing the legislation in their own words who supports this "the facts dont back trump up here" claim, the please do so.

I've looked, and I cant find it.

What I do find is willful fake news about the individual mandate and expansion of short term medical policies.

BOTH of these changes were fantastic for the consumer! BOTH were great moves that needed to be done. NEITHER of these = removal of pre-exiating clauses. However, you can find fake news articles conflating Trumps removal of individual mandate and expansion of STM with somehow attacking pre-existing clauses. That conflation is fake news.

Unless you can show me where/who/how the states vs ACA suit has a stated goal of removing pre-ex clauses, then this is FAKE NEWS!

0/2 Marcus, but I legit appreciate the effort.
40   marcus   2019 Mar 24, 10:38am  

What I expected. As I said, you are perhaps more of a liar than TRump. But don't worry, there are quite a few morons on this forum that eat your bullshit up.

CBOEtrader says
Which facts?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2018/10/08/possible-removal-of-pre-existing-conditions-protections/#6b951dc850e8

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