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1   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (38)   2019 Mar 15, 10:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Pat, he's from Queensland, Pauline Hanson in pants.
2   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 15, 11:03pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The person doesn't matter. The point matters.

He's absolutely correct. Muslims are usually the killers in events such as these, and are killing people on an industrial scale around the world right now:

https://thereligionofpeace.com/

They are doing it exactly because Islam commands them to kill all those who will not submit, or who dare to criticize Mohammed for his crimes.

A white guy shooting up a mosque is an aberration. A Muslim shooting up churches, gay nightclubs, and other unarmed civilians (especially other Muslims) in the name of Islam is hardly even reported in the news for the most part because it's a daily occurrence.

Islam is an extremely murderous ideology, and the whole world should condemn it.
3   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 15, 11:04pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Fact Check: 100% True.

Another great find, Pat.
4   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 15, 11:22pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Okay, read the whole damn thing, I really have a hard time disagreeing with most of it.

BUT, it's still not cool to shoot random people. Had he targeted some asshole fanatic and whacked him, I would cheer him, but you can't be killing just anybody.

I did love this:
UNTIL THE HAGIA SOPHIA IS FREE OF THE MINARETS,THE
MEN OF EUROPE ARE MEN IN NAME ONLY

Again, if Europeans had to disgorge their worldwide empire, why does Islam not have to retreat from Constantinople, if not all of Asia (so-called Turkey) which was Greek for thousands of years? Why do Muslims not have to restore all the Hindu temples they ruined under the Moghuls?
5   rocketjoe79   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 16, 12:17am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Religious belief systems: they rely on faith about an invisible man in the sky who is all powerful, want's all your money and devotion, and promises riches AFTER you're dead. The greatest racket ever invented.

Imagine if aliens came to earth and we explained these religious beliefs to them: they would fall out of their chairs with laughter - or cry with sorrow at our primitive ways. Why do you think they haven't made first contact yet? We're still morons.
6   Quigley   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 16, 6:46am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

In many ways, this whole Christchurch thing is a “man bites dog” story.
7   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 16, 9:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

He makes excellent points.
8   HEYYOU   ignore (25)   2019 Mar 16, 9:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Islam is an extremely murderous ideology, and the whole world should condemn it.


Anyone ever read that sci-fi book,The Old Testament?
9   AD   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 16, 9:47am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
Anyone ever read that sci-fi book,The Old Testament?


The Jewish faith is based on the Old Testament.

The Christian faith is based on the New Testament.
10   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 16, 11:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

And yet!

Jesus robbed, raped, and murdered absolutely no one.

Unlike Mohammed, who robbed caravans, raped the women, and murdered the men.

Jesus amended the Old Testament to make "Love thy neighbor" the principal commandment.

Judaism technically retains much of the incitement to violence given as OT laws, and yet does not enforce them, nor does it demand that others convert.
11   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 16, 11:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Christian faith is based on both actually. But New Testament did go from life is torture and god is cruel and unforgiving, to a loving and forgiving type of god.

AD says
HEYYOU says
Anyone ever read that sci-fi book,The Old Testament?


The Jewish faith is based on the Old Testament.

The Christian faith is based on the New Testament.
12   AD   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 16, 5:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is the primary tenet of Christianity and was Jesus was conveying. For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in, I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you looked after Me, I was in prison and you visited Me.
13   AD   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 16, 7:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tarantula says
Wow, arguing about who's religion is the best.


I was not arguing which is best, I was just stating one of the major parts of the New Testament of which the Christian faith is based.

And I did not see anyone else on this thread trying to argue which religion is best as well.

I have not criticized Islam but point to even secular scholars who have criticized it.

Secular scholars have been very critical of Islam because of its founder Muhammed's history of ownership of slaves, treatment of enemies, and relationship with minors.

For example, even the secular historical analysis points to The Banu Qurayza who were a Jewish tribe which lived in northern Arabia, at the oasis of Yathrib (now known as Medina), until the 7th century, when their conflict with Muhammad led to their massacre.
14   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 16, 7:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dan is back as a spider?
15   WineHorror1   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 16, 7:52pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
Okay, read the whole damn thing, I really have a hard time disagreeing with most of it.

BUT, it's still not cool to shoot random people. Had he targeted some asshole fanatic and whacked him, I would cheer him, but you can't be killing just anybody.

I did love this:
UNTIL THE HAGIA SOPHIA IS FREE OF THE MINARETS,THE
MEN OF EUROPE ARE MEN IN NAME ONLY

Again, if Europeans had to disgorge their worldwide empire, why does Islam not have to retreat from Constantinople, if not all of Asia (so-called Turkey) which was Greek for thousands of years? Why do Muslims not have to restore all the Hindu temples they ruined under the Moghuls?

Very good questions.

I can only come up with the following...

The powers that be have decided to use religion to control the world. Islam has billions of adherents and the religion itself is stultifying.
16   AD   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 16, 7:55pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
A white guy shooting up a mosque is an aberration. A Muslim shooting up churches, gay nightclubs, and other unarmed civilians (especially other Muslims) in the name of Islam is hardly even reported in the news for the most part because it's a daily occurrence.


It comes down to their interpretation of "jihad" as quoted in the Quran.
17   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 16, 9:42pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
The powers that be have decided to use religion to control the world. Islam has billions of adherents and the religion itself is stultifying.


A good hypothesis, but ironically I'm a fan of the more Leftist view of Ivory Tower Elite/Divide and Conquer Strategy which I actually got from the Wobblies/IWW:

It's easier to control a disunified, mutually hostile population of Blacks, Whites, Muslims, etc. than it is a mostly White country. Also, Whites have a history of forming Unions and/or demanding quality of life improvements as a reward for a generation's military service.

OR

That, or the Elites are simply desperate to prevent the coming low rents/housing cost collapse due to the falling population in Europe, given that most European Elites are rich by virtue of land ownership and rental properties.

OR

The Left wants to break apart capitalism by dilluting the mostly European inhabitants of European countries that make up the home base of Enlightenment (Classical) Liberalism.

I personally believe a mix of all 3, plus the Cool WIne Aunt Sexual Frustration theory as icing on the cake.
18   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 16, 9:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Here is the comic that got me thinking many years ago:



This didn't work because most of those groups are Europeans themselves with a common heritage, Asians take well to Westernization, and WW2 and the Cold War (focus on Communism vs. Capitalism rather than Civilizational/National Conflict) unified all the ethnic groups in the US into "Generic White". So the next idea is to mix it up with people from entirely different civilizations who share few values.
19   steverbeaver   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 16, 11:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
WineHorror1 says
The powers that be have decided to use religion to control the world. Islam has billions of adherents and the religion itself is stultifying.


A good hypothesis, but ironically I'm a fan of the more Leftist view of Ivory Tower Elite/Divide and Conquer Strategy which I actually got from the Wobblies/IWW:

It's easier to control a disunified, mutually hostile population of Blacks, Whites, Muslims, etc. than it is a mostly White country. Also, Whites have a history of forming Unions and/or demanding quality of life improvements as a reward for a generation's military service.

OR

That, or the Elites are simply desperate to prevent the coming low rents/housing cost collapse due to the falling population in Europe, given that most European Elites are rich by virtue of land ownership and rental properties.

OR

The Left wants to break apart capitalism b...

I agree that these are some key elements at times. Not all the time, but frequent enough to take notice. I've also recently been starting to ponder the JQ, or rather, why Jews seem to be an over-represented component, recurs too much to be coincidence. I've noticed a) a strong ability for psychological warfare and manipulation and b) contempt for outgroup. Maybe others have noticed this? Now, am I saying they all are nefarious backstabbers? No. Like I've said before I'd just as soon smash cute jewess box.

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