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New Zealand Shooter Hopes for U.S. Civil War: ‘Conservatism Is Dead, Thank God’ Why did the shooter kill people? Was it because of the NRA, Trump or Breitart or Not?

By WillPowers following x   2019 Mar 15, 4:40pm 415 views   30 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


While the manifesto was not reprinted or linked to, Breitbart does quote from it so we have some idea what was going through the shooters mind.

LINK to ARTICLE: https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/03/15/new-zealand-shooter-hopes-for-u-s-civil-war-conservatism-is-dead-thank-god/

According to his manifesto, the shooter — who massacred civilians at two mosques in New Zealand’s city of Christchurch — appears to subscribe to a number of ideologies. The document is riddled with white nationalist talking points, and the shooter describes himself as a “fascist.” He also castigates Muslims as “the most despised group of invaders in the west.”

On the one hand, the manifesto presents the political left as an enemy that conducted a “march through the institutions” and describes Antifa, communists, and Marxists as “anti-white scum.” Elsewhere, the shooter writes that “under some definitions,” he is both on the right and the left.

Elsewhere, the shooter disparages conservatism and declines to identify with it, writing that “conservatism is dead, thank god,” and calling it “corporatism in disguise.”

Parts of the manifesto appear to be insincere trolling, aimed at sowing confusion about his motivations. At one point, the shooter blames his action on popular video game titles, saying “Spyro the Dragon 3 taught me ethno-nationalism” and that “Fortnite trained me to be a killer.”

Elsewhere in the manifesto, the shooter predicts that his attack will lead to “calls for the removal of gun rights from whites in the United States… that is the plan all along.”
1   willywonka   ignore (2)   2019 Mar 15, 4:42pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump planned this with Putin.
2   WillPowers   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 15, 4:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ocasio-Cortez tweets:

“Thoughts and prayers” is reference to the NRA’s phrase used to deflect conversation away from policy change during tragedies"
3   OccasionalCortex   ignore (2)   2019 Mar 15, 4:50pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

What does the NRA or Trump have to do with disarmed people in NZ getting slaughtered like lambs?
4   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 15, 4:55pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It was an understandable if extreme reaction to Blancophobia: Hatred of Whites.

You see, the endless stream of Anti-White Racism from Media, Academia, etc. has repercussions.
5   WillPowers   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 15, 4:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Here is Trump's statement to Breitbart: (Tell me if you think this is a call for violence):

You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher. Like with all the nonsense that they do in Congress … with all this invest[igations] — that’s all they want to do is — you know, they do things that are nasty. Republicans never played this.”
6   WillPowers   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 15, 5:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Typical of Hollywood celebrities response to attack is Rob Reiners':

What happened in New Zealand is horrifying. The rise of white supremacy & white nationalism is frightening. World leaders play a role in stoking this hatred. If you are not condemning white supremacy you are condoning it. If POTUS doesn’t condemn, he condones.

— Rob Reiner
7   WillPowers   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 15, 5:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

New York Times writer Wajahat Ali appeared on CNN Friday and used the New Zealand terror attacks, in which at least 49 people were murdered, in an attempt to smear Breitbart News as “anti-immigrant, anti-black, anti-Muslim.”

CNN’s on-air personnel — including CNN national security correspondent Jim Sciutto — made no effort to correct Ali or even to ask him for evidence to substantiate his claims.

“It came late,” Ali said of President Trump’s tweet offering condolences for the shooting. “Because last night, when this was happening, you know what he tweeted out? He tweeted out a Breitbart article.

“And Breitbart is a site for promoting and mainstreaming much of this anti-immigrant, anti-black, anti-Muslim sentiment in the past few years,” Ali continued.

Ali’s statement was inaccurate. President Trump did not tweet an article from Breitbart News Thursday; he tweeted a link to the Breitbart front page.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/03/15/new-york-times-writer-wajahat-ali-on-cnn-breitbart-news-pushes-anti-black-anti-muslim-sentiment/
8   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 15, 5:09pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NZ isn’t America, but expect liberals to blame it on Trump.

Some guy shoots up fags in Russia or China, left will still blame Trump.
9   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 15, 5:24pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's like there is no news but Trump anymore.

No matter what happens, the press links it to Trump.
10   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 15, 5:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yep 2020 fight been on since 2016.

They didn’t even take a break.

Patrick says
It's like there is no news but Trump anymore.

No matter what happens, the press links it to Trump.
11   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 15, 5:37pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The press ignores the daily attacks on civilians by Muslims, but there is a site which tries hard to list them all:

https://thereligionofpeace.com/
12   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 15, 5:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I think something like 40 people, a whole village of Christians, was exterminated in Nigeria by the Religion of Peace last week.

Must have been revenge on those White Supremacists.
13   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 6:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WillPowers says
Typical of Hollywood celebrities response to attack is Rob Reiners':

Look! There's a butterfly!
14   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 6:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WillPowers says
Tell me if you think this is a call for violence

Was Helter Skelter a call to violence? No. This tens of times worse than Charlie Manson anyway.

This is just another mass shooting like we have nearly every day now in United States.

Yes, Trump was making a call to violence while using fuck-weasel tactics to claim deniability. He made a terrorist threat there that he could deny also.

Spare me further bullshit on the subject
15   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 15, 7:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
This is just another mass shooting like we have nearly every day now in United States.


We do. In South Central, Detroit, Philadelphia, etc.

Where have you been since 1970?
16   WillPowers   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 15, 8:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
NZ isn’t America, but expect liberals to blame it on Trump.


All bad news is Trump's fault. All good news like the economy is because of Obama. That's the rule, now obey and shut up...

saysjazz_music says
Yes, Trump was making a call to violence while using fuck-weasel tactics to claim deniability


This what the right means when they talk about deranged leftist, or the Trump derangement syndrome.
17   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 9:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WillPowers says
This what the right means when they talk about

That's just because they have no valid arguments to offer, the poor deluded cunts were vulnerable to the big bad con man, that's all. They didn't want to get involved in their politics so they figured they could elect this total con man who says he can fix everything.

And they, the right wing lunatics, are not going to admit that they made the worst choice in history by being such lazy cop outs. BTW the racists are loving the fuck out of this shit show too

... as the wealthy silently take the money out of circulation and hide themselves.
18   WillPowers   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 16, 12:03am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
That's just because they have no valid arguments to offer,


Actually Trump ran on a platform that discussed the issues and wasn't an attack on voters like Hillary's campaign calling all Trump supporters deplorables, alienating half the country with her rhetoric and Trump has achieved a great deal of what he set out to do: Lower taxes, move the embassy to Jerusalem, and he's doing his best I believe to secure the southern border, but he has a lot of insane opposition coming out of the Democratic party. It's like Dems want Mexican murderers, drug and human traffickers cross our border and roaming the country side unhindered. Maybe one day you will wake up and smell the coffee. I sincerely hope you don't have to loose a loved one, a daughter, a wife to MS-13.

jazz_music says
right wing lunatics, are not going to admit that they made the worst choice in history


Keep talking. You are making my case that left-wingers are mind programmed lunatics who don't have a clue what's going on, because you believe the left wing media is telling you the truth you don't look past the end of your nose and see what the other side is saying, you know so you can get a balanced view point and make up your own mind instead of having it made up for you by stupid talking heads who constantly represent opinion as fact. In fact, I hear a lot out of the left wing press and all of it is garbage. You are being lied to constantly and you don't even know it.

When you hear that, you think I'm lying, you're so used to hearing a bunch of lies you wouldn't know the truth if it was a baseball bat and it hit you over the head.

And on Trump, I am disappointed he signed that crummy piece of legislation the Dems made him sign to avoid another govt' shutdown, but on NK, great success and negotiations aren't over, so don't let the left wing media fool you into believing they are.
19   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 16, 9:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Read his whole thing. He makes some good points about immigration policies, nihilism, corporatism, and how forced diversity means war.
20   Expat01   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 16, 9:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Oh, good lord. There are still morons out there who try to turn these attacks into "it's really white men who are the victims." Gosh, white males have simply lost all their power in Washington, Hollywood, and Wall Street. And why are the blacks so mean to poor us? We gave them a cabin and free meals when they were slaves. Talk about ingratitude. And the fucking Muslims. We have spent the last fifty years delivering free bombs to them and they suddenly attack us with no warning because they hate our freedoms.
Fuck off, you hypocritical vicitms. If white men are really the new downtrodden, it's because you are obviously largly inferior to the minorities who you claim have taken over. If you can't fend off blacks, Jews, Muslims, and Hispanics when they make up perhaps 25% of the population, it is very clear that they are vastly superior to whites. So stop whining and accept your position: you will get free cabins and meals.
21   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 16, 9:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Expat01 says
We gave them a cabin and free meals when they were slaves.

May be you did, I did not as I did not own any slaves, and for that matter (not that it matters) my ancestors did not own any slaves back to about 1650 and likely before that since slavery in European country they come from was made illegal in 14th-15th centuries. Is that enough to be considered as not possessing any of Fucking White Male Privilege?
22   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 16, 9:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

And few notes with respect to the NZ shooting...

First, shooter is a damned foreigner - Regional officials have said Mr. Tarrant is an Australian citizen. Should have deported his ass back to whence he came from.
Second, as we all know, police is minutes away when help is needed in seconds. Perhaps if someone in two mosques would have been armed, then we would have a dead shooter, thus saving NZ government a lot of money in prosecution and incarceration costs, and saving 49 innocent lives. This is what happened in Dallas Mohammad cartoon attack a few yrs ago, when both shooters were shot dead.
Third, while I am generally against death penalty, it should be kept on books for cases such as this one.
23   AD   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 16, 10:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WillPowers says
appears to subscribe to a number of ideologies


The New Zealand mosque shooter was more of a leftist and socialist (i.e, pro worker or "soviet" rights, environmentalism, etc.).
24   cmdrdataleak   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 16, 11:11am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Okay, I've read his screed in full, watched the video. I'm not impressed.

So you're concerned about regional demographic replacement of people of European stock? Then put down your gun and pick up a rose. The future of European stock is in the wombs of White women. Plant deep the seeds of love, for the fruit will yield year after year. Don't salt the earth with hate.
25   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 16, 11:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I agree.

I think he went over the edge after that terrorist attack where he decided to “do something” as he wrote. In his world he saw unmitigated terrorism and inaction and cluelessness as response. And that makes sense. I’ve seen plenty of clueless governments who don’t know how to deal with threats. So he took it into his own hands to fix. Not being very smart, his solution was brute force murder.

That’s what I understood, rest of his stuff was reasoning backwards to justify actions.

cmdrdataleak says
Okay, I've read his screed in full, watched the video. I'm not impressed.

So you're concerned about regional demographic replacement of people of European stock? Then put down your gun and pick up a rose. The future of European stock is in the wombs of White women. Plant deep the seeds of love, for the fruit will yield year after year. Don't salt the earth with hate.
26   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 16, 11:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

cmdrdataleak says
So you're concerned about regional demographic replacement of people of European stock? Then put down your gun and pick up a rose. The future of European stock is in the wombs of White women. Plant deep the seeds of love, for the fruit will yield year after year. Don't salt the earth with hate.


I think his counterargument was the Ecofascism: The 'Global warming' problem is at it's core a human overpopulation problem, so a demographics war doesn't help anything.

Part of me thinks he was looking to make a slpash; he literally killed for the 4chan LOLs, because of that USN Navy Seal screed he put in there, and references to video games and shit. Only thing missing was "All your base are belong to us"
27   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 16, 12:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

My response to the #ChristchurchTerrorAttack will post here tomorrow at 1000hrs.

If you are of a sensitive disposition, please unfollow or offity-f*ck. @metpoliceuk - you have my address from when jihadis from your city plotted to behead me.

I thank you— Katie Hopkins (@KTHopkins) March 16, 2019

28   WillPowers   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 17, 1:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Expat01 says
We gave them a cabin and free meals when they were slaves.


You compare the live of blacks here in America today with blacks in Africa and you find generally speaking they are better off. In fact, I remember hearing one black comic giving thanks on stage for being here in America, despite what his ancestors had to live through.

Expat01 says
We have spent the last fifty years delivering free bombs to them and they suddenly attack us with no warning because they hate our freedoms.


The U.S. did treat Muslim nations badly and that is on the CIA, which ran secret missions in Iran to over turn a representative government of the poeple to install a puppet regime in the form of the Shah of Iran and the CIA pulled the same shit in Cuba. In fact the shit this country pulled all over the world would probably make you really pissed off, so I won't go into it all. Suffice it to say the CIA did terrible things in the name of this country, but that wasnt the people, U.S. citizens left or right that wanted this shit. It was the power structure and they benefit by keeping us divided, so hating me for having ideological differences plays right into their hand.

Expat01 says
If you can't fend off blacks, Jews, Muslims, and Hispanics when they make up perhaps 25% of the population, it is very clear that they are vastly superior to whites.


Here you miss the point. We aren't at war with minorities. They are just other Americans now. We are at war with a system of government that is deeply unAmerican, a socialist communist ideology that has taken over the radical end of the Democratic party. Republicans are the only ones thinking about issues that will change the social fabric of this country for generations to come and the possibility of transferring all the power to the state, so they can control our lives like big brother is a thought that should scare as all. Once they confiscate all our guns and tell us what to think, what we can not say or do, then you know you're living in a socialist nightmare, and thats when people start disappearing. Obama killed American citizens without a trial, or anything. He was a true tyrant, unlike Trump, but you can't count on the press to tell you the truth. We're all being treated like mushrooms. We are loosing our republic and it seems all liberals are concerned about is whether or not Trump is a racist and colluded with Russians to win in 2016. A bunch of nonsense to distract us and keep us fighting each other.
29   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Mar 23, 1:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The Right Has Mainstreamed the Rhetoric of Mass Killers

When a person makes the decision to kill dozens to draw attention to their political ideas, our first instinct is to ignore them and refuse to listen. Elevating their ideas only gives them what they want and encourages further attacks. But when ever larger numbers of violent incidents arise from people with the same ideology, it behooves us to treat those ideas and those who promulgate them with the appropriate level of attentive alarm.

With that in mind, I have read (or at least skimmed) the manifesto of the white supremacist terrorist who murdered dozens of Muslims peacefully assembled in prayer at mosques yesterday in New Zealand. But you don’t have to, because there’s nothing in that document that isn’t already mainstreamed in the discourse of Breitbart, alt-right Trump supporters, QAnon conspiracy forums, the broader right-wing memeverse, and Fox News anchors like Tucker Carlson. The only difference is that while most modern conservatives modify their language in the form of vague threats or promises of disenfranchisement, expulsion, and political oppression of minorities and people of color, terrorists like the New Zealand killer put those ideas into immediate, murderous action.

While much has already been written about the terrorist’s idolization of various conservative figures, from Republican President Donald Trump to Tea Party USA head Candace Owens, we should pay more attention to his rhetoric.

Central to both the killer’s ideology and that of the mainstream conservative movement is the notion of “replacement.” This idea of replacement is a slight but significant shift from white supremacist concerns of the past.

The preservation of the white race has long been a central piece of far-right ideology, usually expressed in terms of fear of race mixing. Traditionally, white supremacist ideology has been more aligned with maintaining the “purity” and dominance of whatever changing ethnic subgroupings happened to be coded as “white” in a given era. Certainly, in the context of slavery and Jim Crow, whites were fearful of slave revolts and labor competition from African-Americans.

But the modern experience of far-right racism has even more existential overtones because of a combination of declining white birth rates and increasing immigration. The intense fear among an alarming number of white people has caused violent white supremacy to increasingly overlap with mainstream conservative rhetoric. Many have come to fear the slow elimination of this false construct we call “whiteness” through gradual demographic replacement. It was only in the 1980s that neo-nazi ideology started adopting the 14 words explicitly invoking the very “existence” of white people and the protection of white children.

Those who value whiteness as an existential identity treat this apparent decline as an existential threat. Those arrogant enough to believe that western democratic ideals are culturally—or, even more preposterously, biologically—coded into whiteness and will disappear if the white population declines believe that human freedom depends on demographic preservation. White evangelicals—the ones who constitute Trump’s most unshakeable base—have been taught to believe that white protestant America represents puritan John Winthrop’s “city on a hill,” the last keeper of the true Christian faith, the “moral and religious people” without whom John Adams believed the Constitution could not be preserved. As they decline in numbers, so they believe, God himself disappears from the face of the earth until Judgment Day.

It’s easy to dismiss this stuff as the province of cranks. But the challenge is that the same logic has found its way into the Republican Party. To one extent or another, it’s entered many conservative parties in the developed world. Conservative parties see themselves facing a much more real demographic challenge than even the imagined fears of the racists they have courted.

It was not always so. For a long time, an uneasy balance of power was maintained through an alliance of economic progressives with rural conservatives. On the other side were economic traditionalists who, despite favoring preserving the privileges of capital and wealth, were also open to more cosmopolitan social values.

As left parties slowly embraced both economic and social equality in the west, the artificial advantages accruing especially to poorer whites began to fade away. As right parties used the the left’s embrace of social equity to corner the market on disaffected racists, and as the fall of communism saw the elevation of increasingly deregulated capitalism as a virtually unchallenged ideology outside of China, their electoral dominance stripped away the protections upon which the white middle class had long depended.

The simultaneous economic suffocation of the previously protected white working and middle classes, alongside its perceived threat from immigration and birth rate patterns, served to radicalize increasing numbers. But crucially, it also neatly aligned conservative parties with racists—and aligned their existentially pessimistic rhetoric as well.

The Republican Party (conservative parties abroad face similar trends) is now increasingly a whites-only party. Combined with the gradual decline of white demographic majorities in America, this creates an increasingly desperate reality: the party must either expand and adapt, or die. Its racist base won’t allow it to expand and adapt. So it has chosen a third path: eliminationism and totalitarianism.

Fox News and Donald Trump now consistently blare the bullhorn of “invasions” from Mexico and elsewhere, directly echoing the shooter’s manifesto. When neo-nazis chant “You Will Not Replace Us,” Trump says that “many of them are good people.” Operatives like Stephen Miller figure out how to disincenvitize non-whites from seeking citizenship. Advisors like Steve Bannon respond to the presence of Asian corporate executives by saying that “When two-thirds or three-quarters of the C.E.O.s in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . a country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.” The Commerce Secretary adds questions about citizenship so that immigrants will be afraid to take the census. Non-white immigrants who make the grave mistake of casting a ballot get years in prison while Republican politicians who actively steal elections don’t get so much as an indictment. Fox News host Tucker Carlson explicitly claims that Democrats want to replace white people.

When these legal channels of soft ethnic cleansing don’t do the trick, the rhetoric of violence begins to creep in. The President threatens that his military and police supporters will get tough and ugly if he doesn’t get his way. Republican candidates threaten “Second Amendment remedies.” Republican candidates pose with assault rifles and brag that they’ll (illegally and violently) personally deport immigrants in their own trucks.

It’s no wonder that incidents of right-wing eliminationist violence are skyrocketing. They’re simply acting on the same logic and implied rhetoric of the conservative parties they have come to dominate.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/03/15/the-new-right-has-mainstreamed-the-rhetoric-of-mass-killers/
30   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (38)   2019 Mar 23, 4:23am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The libbies made him a killer with a League of Women Voters' poster inciting jihadists to kill all white Christian men and, since he was a libby retard, he accidentally shot up a mosque.

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