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Federal Judge declares AHCA "Obamacare" Unconstitutional


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2018 Dec 14, 6:45pm   1,919 views  20 comments

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Federal judge in Texas rules Affordable Health Care Act unconstitutional
Ruling comes on eve of the deadline for Americans to sign up for coverage in the federal insurance exchange created under the law.

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/12/14/texas-federal-judge-obama-health-care-law-unconstitutional/

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1   GNL   2018 Dec 14, 7:37pm  

What does that do for me?
3   Tenpoundbass   2018 Dec 15, 8:07am  

Obama was unconstitutional the Marxist Commie fagot from Kenya.

I Shit on Thee!
4   Tenpoundbass   2018 Dec 15, 8:25am  

APHAman says
But what about Medicare though?


It seems when the Government cuts checks to for profit companies, Shit is all it produces.

Those companies are free to keep raising their prices, it's magic automatic Profit YOY increases.
Every Executive gets to be the smartest man in the room at the Tax payers expense. That's just how socialists trying to prove the ills of Capitalism roll.
They get filthy rich then blame you and I. See Bernie Sanders and His wife for proof.
5   Tenpoundbass   2018 Dec 15, 9:06am  

FTR I was right about every single thing I ever said about Obamacare.

Even that it was unconstitutional.
6   Ceffer   2018 Dec 15, 9:18am  

Obamacare, otherwise known as the Insurance Subsidy and Guaranteed Profits Act.
7   Patrick   2018 Dec 15, 10:03am  

WineHorror1 says
What does that do for me?


It saves you from having to pay unlimited amounts of money to private companies (health insurers) under penalty of law.

Obamacare is probably the most spectacular example of corruption in the US ever.

Health insurance companies should not even exist. The not only provide no value at all, but instead take money away from actual health care providers.

How about, instead of insurance, we just make providers publish price lists and present all non-emergency bills in advance of treatment? Let the people choose what is worth paying for. Use market forces to contain medical prices.
9   MrMagic   2018 Dec 15, 11:58am  

ThreeBays says
Did you miss the part where the it's the GOP & Trump tax changes that made it unconstitutional?


Oops... nope..

The original unconstitutional part was when Roberts ruled that the individual mandate was a tax.

The GOP corrected that error, and the judge just ruled accurately.

APHAman says
So first you require that we dismantle the horrific Republican Socialism Failure that is Medicare,


Is that the same thing you say about the failure know as your homeowners insurance, car insurance, life insurance, etc.?
10   CBOEtrader   2018 Dec 15, 12:07pm  

What changed?
11   MrMagic   2018 Dec 15, 3:21pm  

CBOEtrader says
What changed?


You've been Un-Grubered....

12   Tenpoundbass   2018 Dec 17, 7:31pm  

https://ilovemyfreedom.org/obama-throws-temper-tantrum-after-judge-rules-that-obamacare-is-unconstitutional/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email

Former President Barack Obama launched into a temper tantrum over the weekend after a federal judge ruled that Obamacare is unconstitutional.

On Friday, a federal judge in Texas struck down Obama’s signature legislative achievement and ruled against his healthcare law.


The former president was not pleased about it and published a lengthy post on his Facebook page to vent his frustrations.

There are two things you need to know today about health care.

First, today’s the last day of open enrollment. That means it’s the deadline to make sure you and the people you love have health insurance in 2019. So head over to HealthCare.gov to get covered!

Second, you might have heard about a federal court decision on a Republican lawsuit trying to strike down the Affordable Care Act in its entirety. That can be a scary thing to hear, particularly if you or someone you care about has a pre-existing condition. And that’s why it’s so important for you to know that last night’s ruling changes nothing for now. As this decision makes its way through the courts, which will take months, if not years, the law remains in place and will likely stay that way. Open enrollment is proceeding as planned today. And a good way to show that you’re tired of people trying to take away your health care is to go get covered!

A lot of good people are fighting to ensure that nothing about your care will change. The ACA protects your pre-existing conditions, no matter how you get your insurance. Young people can stay on their parents’ plans until they’re 26. Preventive care like checkups, mammograms, and contraceptive care are still covered. Mental health care is still covered. Women can’t be charged more just for being a woman. All of that is guaranteed by the ACA as long as it’s the law.
But all of this should also be a reminder that Republicans will never stop trying to undo all that. If they can’t get it done in Congress, they’ll keep trying in the courts, even when it puts people’s pre-existing conditions coverage at risk. The only way to convince them to stop trying to repeal this law, and start working to make health care better, is to keep voting, in big numbers, in every election, for people who’ll protect and improve our care.
15   just_passing_through   2018 Dec 30, 9:04pm  

TrumpingTits says
We are moving towards the Singapore model with the HSAs/high decuctable plan


Got my first HSA going this year and at 10 months I already have over 2K in it. The deductible isn't really much different than what I would have had otherwise. I wish I had this opportunity for the past 20 years I've been out of college. Doctors visits are a bit higher but overall I'm coming out way ahead AND banking for the future. Not really any investment options and the rate of return is crap. The management company charges me $1/month because I get paper statements but so what. Company puts in $700 for free at the start of each year. If I go someplace else I get to keep it.

I totally agree with your other points as well. Transparency in pricing, catastrophic only (or at least make that option available) and maybe add in allowing interstate competition.
16   MrMagic   2018 Dec 30, 9:15pm  

just_dregalicious says
Not really any investment options and the rate of return is crap. The management company charges me $1/month because I get paper statements but so what.


Who's managing it? Our HSA has access to any stock or ETF to invest in. It's like having a second ROTH account, but pre-tax contributions and no tax liability on withdraw. I wish the max. contribution level was higher.
17   just_passing_through   2018 Dec 30, 9:24pm  

MrMagic says
Who's managing it? Our HSA has access to any stock or ETF to invest in. It's like having a second ROTH account, but pre-tax contributions and no tax liability on withdraw. I wish the max. contribution level was higher.


Health Equity for one more day. I forgot who we're switching to:

HealthEquity provides access to a complete investment spectrum with options to suit every employee regardless of age, HSA balance or investment experience.

Federally-insured cash account: A low-interest cash account with federal insurance
Low-risk Yield Plus: This option offers higher interest rates that vary based on HSA account balance. Fund are not federally insured but are still available to spend anytime.
Varying risk mutual funds: HealthEquity offers a curated lineup of investments with options to suit every investment strategy. Investments can be managed manually, or enroll in Advisor, powered by HealthEquity Advisors, LLC, to get advice and personalized guidance.

Looks like I might have had some options I didn't know about. I must be in the low-interest cash account because I'm making pennies each month. Like 9 of them. I did mention that to the HR person I work with who told me something along the lines of, "Yeah, that's all that's available". We're a start-up biotech and losing lots of money.
18   just_passing_through   2018 Dec 30, 9:26pm  

I'd really like a 2nd ROTH. These days all I can do is back-door 401K money when I switch jobs.
19   MrMagic   2018 Dec 31, 8:46am  

just_dregalicious says
Varying risk mutual funds: HealthEquity offers a curated lineup of investments with options to suit every investment strategy. Investments can be managed manually, or enroll in Advisor, powered by HealthEquity Advisors, LLC, to get advice and personalized guidance.


So, that sounds like you do have different investment options at different levels of returns, depending on what risk you want. Hopefully, the new company offers more in the way of ETFs or other options.
20   MrMagic   2018 Dec 31, 8:50am  

just_dregalicious says
I'd really like a 2nd ROTH. These days all I can do is back-door 401K money when I switch jobs.


Does your 401K plan allow you to fund AFTER-TAX into the 401K, instead of PRE-TAX. Wifey's plan allows that, and we backdoor a ton into the ROTH that way at the end of the year, on top of the standard allowable contribution for the ROTH on the front side. I know you take the tax hit the first year on the after-tax money, but if your retirement window is far enough out, you'll make it up in investment growth. Usually the break even is around 5 years.

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