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Map of smoke in California


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2018 Nov 12, 5:02pm   4,406 views  35 comments

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https://www.purpleair.com/map#11/37.4738/-122.195

Pretty cool, interactive, gives different health impacts of the different numbers.

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1   Ceffer   2018 Nov 12, 5:20pm  

Gollee Jeez, and that doesn't even include the pot smoke.
2   NoYes   2018 Nov 12, 8:23pm  

Move the homeless to Jerry Browns home to save them
3   Patrick   2018 Nov 12, 8:52pm  

I wonder how this compares to an average day in Beijing or Delhi?
4   Patrick   2018 Nov 12, 9:15pm  

An average day in Beijing seems to be worse that this:

http://aqicn.org/city/beijing/
5   Malcolm   2018 Nov 12, 9:39pm  

I visited Beijing. It can feel very toxic if the air is calm.
7   Ceffer   2018 Nov 13, 10:42am  

It's gone from 'Hazardous' to 'Being Locked In A Coffin With A Farting Rosie O'Donnell'.
8   Patrick   2018 Nov 16, 10:31am  

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Air-Fouling-Smoke-Continues-across-California-2009-Report-Warned-Potential-Catastrophe?cm_ven=hp-slot-2

Smoke from the catastrophic Camp Fire continues to plague much of central and northern California, bringing dangerously high levels of fine particulate pollution (PM2.5, particles less than 2.5 microns or 0.0001 inch in diameter). Hourly levels of PM2.5 were in the red “Unhealthy” range at more than 30 official EPA monitors across the region Thursday morning, with seven stations reporting purple “Very Unhealthy” conditions.

Two stations near the Camp Fire recorded PM2.5 levels on Thursday morning well into the maroon “hazardous” range—the highest level of danger on EPA’s Air Quality Index (AQI) scale. At this level, EPA warns that “this would trigger a health warnings of emergency conditions." Chico had PM2.5 levels at a suffocating 333 μg/m3 for several hours on Thursday morning, which is nearly ten times higher than the 24-hour PM2.5 standard of 35 μg/m3. The Woolsey fire near Los Angeles was mostly blowing out to sea, and thus air quality in Southern California was generally acceptable.

Light winds are expected over most of California’s smoke-affected areas through Saturday, keeping the air pollution levels dangerously high. On Sunday, a developing upper-level low pressure system will drive more of an onshore flow of air from the ocean, which may cause a modest reduction in the smoke. True relief from the smoke, however, will likely not occur until Wednesday or Thursday next week, when a major Pacific storm system is expected to move into California, potentially bringing the state its first significant rain of November.
9   Ceffer   2018 Nov 16, 10:34am  

On Wednesday, the Tri Valley was absolutely choking with dense smoke. It approached 300 mark. I have never in all my dirty air years in Cali been in anything like that.

We packed up and went to the coast to get out of it, where there was still smoke, but the situation was breathable without exploding sinuses.
10   Patrick   2018 Nov 16, 11:14am  

Does anyone have one of the AQI sensors, like from https://www.purpleair.com/ ?

If so, please try this experiment for me:

* set up a box fan in the middle of the room where the sensor is
* drape a damp towel over the input side of the fan, so it gets sucked against the fan
(you may want the fan on low to keep the electrical load low, so the fan doesn't burn out)
* check the AQI with the fan on for an hour, and then again with the fan off for an hour

Personally, I think a damp towel against a fan definitely helped the air quality in my house, but it would be nice to have objective numbers.
11   HeadSet   2018 Nov 16, 11:21am  

potentially bringing the state its first significant rain of November.

Next on the agenda. mud slides.
12   mell   2018 Nov 16, 11:25am  

Patrick says
Does anyone have one of the AQI sensors, like from https://www.purpleair.com/ ?

If so, please try this experiment for me:

* set up a box fan in the middle of the room where the sensor is
* drape a damp towel over the input side of the fan, so it gets sucked against the fan
(you may want the fan on low to keep the electrical load low, so the fan doesn't burn out)
* check the AQI with the fan on for an hour, and then again with the fan off for an hour

Personally, I think a damp towel against a fan definitely helped the air quality in my house, but it would be nice to have objective numbers.


Staying inside (keeping windows and doors mostly closed) when PM pollution is that high outside reduces exposure by 30%-70% without doing anything. People who are really worried or sensitive can just wear a mask all day, but it's not really necessary unless you have related health issues. Beijing has these conditions all year long.
13   HeadSet   2018 Nov 16, 11:38am  

Staying inside (keeping windows and doors mostly closed) when PM pollution is that high outside reduces exposure by 30%-70% without doing anything.

Too bad for those folks whose wives make them go outside to smoke that cigarette.
14   curious2   2018 Nov 16, 2:10pm  

HeadSet says
go outside to smoke that cigarette.


If ppl insist on smoking, they're part of the smoke problem, so why should they bother avoiding smoke? If you're going to poison yourself, you might as well go all out.
15   HeadSet   2018 Nov 16, 2:13pm  

curious2 says
HeadSet says
go outside to smoke that cigarette.


If ppl insist on smoking, they're part of the smoke problem, so why should they bother avoiding smoke? If you're going to poison yourself, you might as well go all out.


That's the joke. Like the tanned sun bunny worried about cancer from a dental x-ray.
16   mell   2018 Nov 16, 2:27pm  

Was driving yesterday and saw a dude full windows down in his car in the thick wildfire smog, leaning his arm out and smoking a fat cigarette or joint. lol today we salute you.
17   Ceffer   2018 Nov 16, 4:19pm  

It's probably less harmful to smoke a pack a day of cigarettes than this shit in the air. Particulates aren't just burned wood, they are fungi, moss, mold, mushrooms, toadstools, lichens, protozoa crap, tree and brush parasites, pitch, and with buildings, an extra helping of asbestos, formalin, plasticizers, lead, plaster, rubber and metals.

Masks only help a bit, because the path of least resistance is still around the edges of the mask for inhalation, and nobody likes to wear a mask for any length of time.
18   mell   2018 Nov 16, 5:06pm  

So far no spike in ER calls, so not too bad. Masks are no substitute for staying mostly indoors.

Ceffer says
It's probably less harmful to smoke a pack a day of cigarettes than this shit in the air. Particulates aren't just burned wood, they are fungi, moss, mold, mushrooms, toadstools, lichens, protozoa crap, tree and brush parasites, pitch, and with buildings, an extra helping of asbestos, formalin, plasticizers, lead and metals.

Masks only help a bit, because the path of least resistance is still around the edges of the mask for inhalation, and nobody likes to wear a mask for any length of time.


Yes the masks may shield you from some of the PM2.5 but not the other shit. Fire is 45% contained now and it's expected to get a little better tomorrow. Think the worst is past us. Haven't noticed anything yet except for the smell of smoke. Thinking about working out in the Gym tomorrow again, can't go without a workout for too more than a day or two ;)
19   Patrick   2018 Nov 16, 5:24pm  

HeadSet says
potentially bringing the state its first significant rain of November.

Next on the agenda. mud slides.


And then the big earthquake.
20   HeadSet   2018 Nov 16, 6:17pm  

Patrick says
HeadSet says
potentially bringing the state its first significant rain of November.

Next on the agenda. mud slides.


And then the big earthquake.


Damn, forget to say our prayers, did we?
21   Booger   2018 Nov 16, 6:39pm  

When the smoke is that bad, do your farts still stink?
22   Ceffer   2018 Nov 16, 7:33pm  

Booger says
When the smoke is that bad, do your farts still stink?


It's been so bad in NorCal lately, you fart just to get some fresh air.
24   Booger   2018 Nov 17, 6:09pm  

Is the air quality in California worse than China yet?
26   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2018 Nov 17, 7:44pm  

Booger says
Is the air quality in California worse than China yet?


Not that bad. In China there were days I couldn't come outside, literally we were not allowed to go outside due to pollution. But the poop, that's one thing CA is #1 on, poop, water shortages, piling more people into less space.
27   mell   2018 Nov 17, 9:04pm  

Worked out hard today indoors though. It's back to 150 for PM2.5. Much better.
29   Booger   2018 Nov 19, 4:52pm  

While California is covered with wildfires & smoke, Gov. Jerry Brown Spends $33 Million To Defend Illegals from Deportation.

https://newspunch.com/jerry-brown-defend-illegals-deportation/
31   HeadSet   2018 Nov 20, 6:32am  

Booger says
While California is covered with wildfires & smoke, Gov. Jerry Brown Spends $33 Million To Defend Illegals from Deportation.

https://newspunch.com/jerry-brown-defend-illegals-deportation/


Maybe Moonbeam is thinking of using all those illegals to rake, pick up brush and deadwood, cordon off controlled burn areas, and other general labor related to forest management and mitigation of wild fires. Heavy equipment like forest rakes and bulldozers would still be union men.

Nahh, Moonbeam will probably leave the forests alone and dump the illegals into the general population.
34   Booger   2018 Nov 20, 3:46pm  

California Legislature Unveils Plan To Raise Taxes On Wildfires Until They Move Out Of State.

https://babylonbee.com/news/california-legislature-unveils-plan-to-tax-wildfires-until-they-move-out-of-state
35   Ceffer   2018 Nov 20, 3:59pm  

Homeless former residents of Paradise complain that State only offers them clean needles, anti-psychotics and get-out-of-jail-free cards!

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