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1   WookieMan   2018 Sep 24, 9:12am  

Don't fly then?

I get your beef with this being 6' plus myself (but slim at least), but it's not going to change. Planes are literally the safest mode of transportation in the US, so airlines are not going to make seats bigger for "safety" concerns. The reality is, 5'7" wide body, fat assess need to get smaller. Weight is the bigger(est) concern at take off. You generally can't land a fully fueled and loaded plan back at the same airport if there's an emergency. Every passenger cuts 20lbs, and you're on a much safer flight.

Also being in Chicago, the longest flight for me to anywhere I want to go is 4 hours. Yes, it sucks, but it's really not that big of a deal for the time. Get up take a piss or two and meander around as long as you can until you get yelled at. I generally sit across the isle from my wife and kids, so yes, I've had to deal with whales sitting next to me eating a salt loaded McD's meal that would feed my entire family.

Fat people are the bigger problem. #SmallPlaneSeats=FirstWorldProblems #BuyYourOwnPlane
2   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2018 Sep 24, 9:16am  

You didn't even read the article. This isn't about "Ha Ha I'm skinny and you are fat"
It's about safety if there's a fire on those deathtraps your skinny ass is going to be burned alive as Micheal Moore struggles to get get out of his seat, grab his bags from the overhead and squeeze down the isle.
You morons are going to Fat shame yourselves to death.

I remember flying in the 90's you could very easily walk around someone in the isle reaching in the overhead bin.
3   WookieMan   2018 Sep 24, 9:27am  

Tenpoundbass says
You didn't even read the article. This isn't about "Ha Ha I'm skinny and you are fat"


Is this a joke? From the article:

“People are bigger than they used to be. So we’re making the aisle smaller and the seats narrower. Sounds like a recipe for a dangerous situation,” aviation attorney and pilot Brian Alexander said.


The seats are perfectly fine, albeit smaller then they used to be..... for non-fatties. But this article specifically mentions the size of people in conjunction with smaller aisles and seat. Am I missing something? What didn't I read?
4   bob2356   2018 Sep 24, 10:16am  

WookieMan says

Is this a joke? From the article:

“People are bigger than they used to be. So we’re making the aisle smaller and the seats narrower. Sounds like a recipe for a dangerous situation,” aviation attorney and pilot Brian Alexander said.


How can the isle be smaller and the seats narrower if the fuselage is the same width?
5   WookieMan   2018 Sep 24, 10:21am  

bob2356 says
WookieMan says

Is this a joke? From the article:

“People are bigger than they used to be. So we’re making the aisle smaller and the seats narrower. Sounds like a recipe for a dangerous situation,” aviation attorney and pilot Brian Alexander said.


How can the isle be smaller and the seats narrower if the fuselage is the same width?


Good point. Space between seats (legroom)? It's a weird article and not too sure what TPB is trying to get his mind changed on. Smaller seats (and legroom) are here to stay.

I did mention the weight of people and so did the article, so not sure what TPB was talking about, hence the joke comment.
6   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2018 Sep 24, 10:27am  

bob2356 says
How can the isle be smaller and the seats narrower if the fuselage is the same width?


Most fleets have been replaced Jets are narrower now. When you fly some smaller airlines or even Asian Air routes, you'll fly in 20+ year old planes, the isles are twice as wide. While the planes have just as many seats, but they are wider with longer legroom.
7   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2018 Sep 24, 10:28am  

WookieMan says
Good point. Space between seats (legroom)? It's a weird article and not too sure what TPB is trying to get his mind changed on. Smaller seats (and legroom) are here to stay.


The lack of legroom there is no legroom in new planes.

Hey don't worry about ME, Skully has got this!
8   bob2356   2018 Sep 24, 11:13am  

Tenpoundbass says

Most fleets have been replaced Jets are narrower now. When you fly some smaller airlines or even Asian Air routes, you'll fly in 20+ year old planes, the isles are twice as wide. While the planes have just as many seats, but they are wider with longer legroom.


The 707,727,757,737 use the same fuselage 148 inches. The airbus 320 series ( A318, A319, A320 and A321, as well as the ACJ business) all use the same fuselage 156 inches. . The A300,310,330,340 are all 208 with the A350 which replaces the A340 is at 221. The dreamliner is 5 inches wider than the 767 it's replacing.

Remind me again which planes are those that are narrower than the ones they are replacing?
9   WookieMan   2018 Sep 24, 11:40am  

Tenpoundbass says
The lack of legroom there is no legroom in new planes.


I don't like the limited legroom. You won't get an argument from me on that topic. But nothing is changing. If an airline can get an extra row of seats and the revenue, they're going to. Air travel is safer then ever and your article was pointing out safety.

Airlines will win the day when there's maybe a fatal plane crash in the US once every 4 years out of the millions of flights over that time. Given the volume of people moved, they have a point. You either die in the crash or you just pull up to the gate. Compared to other means of travel that are less regulated, be happy you have any leg room.

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