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Warsaw feels like Paris in the good years


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2018 Sep 21, 6:14pm   9,130 views  47 comments

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https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/09/warsaw-feels-like-paris-in-the-good-years-before-it-became-a-third-world-shithole-katie-hopkins/

As Poland did not adopt the left’s mantra of mass Islamic migration, there is no terrorism and the streets are relatively safe.

In one of her tweets Hopkins calls Poland one of the safest countries in Europe, thanks to its policy of zero illegal immigration.

As she walks through Warsaw, Poland’s capital, she calls it “one of the safest cities for women of the continent and it feels very much like Paris in the good years, before it became a Third World shithole.”

In a tweet that was posted today Hopkins refers to Warsaw’s clean streets, as ‘there isn’t a stitch of litter anywhere’ in contrast with Western Europe.

And the city feels safe at night, she continues, and adds: “Poland and Hungary have not sacrificed its women and children on the altar of multiculturalism.”

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1   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Sep 21, 6:25pm  

Those old Patriarchal Poles, I think Poland is one of the safest in the world in terms of Rape and Assault on Women.

Fact-check: YUP

The 10 safest countries for women in 2017 were:
Australia
Malta
Iceland
New Zealand
Canada
Poland
Monaco
Israel
USA
South Korea

http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-10-safest-countries-in-the-world-for-women-2018-1/

Mostly places where Macho, Patriarchical values still survive and/or where there are no Muslims in numbers or where they know their bullshit won't be tolerated. Canada is the lone exception.
2   Bd6r   2018 Sep 21, 6:35pm  

@Twoscoops, not disagreeing with the idea but these lists are usually bogus. I'd bet Slovenia should be high in the list, Switzerland is missing etc. They probably wanted to stick USA and one non-white country in the list. Extremely low Polish crime statistics is impressive though: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=crim_off_cat&lang=en

Poland does have a fair number of immigrants/guest workers from Ukraine (500K to 2M), but they are culturally very similar to Poles.
3   Patrick   2018 Sep 21, 6:47pm  

Poland benefits tremendously from its lack of "diversity". People understand and trust each other to a degree that it is very hard for Americans to comprehend. Poles all speak the same language and have essentially the same upbringing.

Diversity is almost a pure harm, increasing distrust and lowering civic engagement. We are conditioned daily to believe the lie that diversity is somehow "good", but it just ain't so:

http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/

Prediction: countries with less diversity will take over leadership of the world and generate consistently higher living standards than countries who have fallen prey to the lie, pushed by employers for profit, and put into practice by well-meaning but ignorant types who want to believe in kumbaya in spite of reality. It make take 100 or 200 years, so it's hard to prove right now, but just watch the trends during your lifetime. Might already be too late for Western Europe and the US.
4   mell   2018 Sep 21, 7:03pm  

dr6B says
@Twoscoops, not disagreeing with the idea but these lists are usually bogus. I'd bet Slovenia should be high in the list, Switzerland is missing etc. They probably wanted to stick USA and one non-white country in the list. Extremely low Polish crime statistics is impressive though: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=crim_off_cat&lang=en

Poland does have a fair number of immigrants/guest workers from Ukraine (500K to 2M), but they are culturally very similar to Poles.


Switzerland has taken in a fair amount of rapefugees in the past, but has reversed course in the most recent years (similar but not as hard as Austria), so it may become safer again as it used to be. Italy is working to join this list under Savini. Germany used to be super safe and in the top 10 - they used to have a program similar to America's most wanted but German style and far less sensational on public TV where pretty much each severe recent crime, be it a bank heist, murder or very very rarely rape was narrated and then the public asked for help to find the perpetrator(s) by showing clues and recovered evidence on TV, that's how rare big and violent crimes against normal innocent citizens were. Sadly traitor Merkel changed all this. Oh and btw. this was not a left/right issue, both major parties on the left and right and their chancellors before Merkel were always strict on illegal immigration and always honoring the quota and swiftly kicking out criminal immigrants.
5   NDrLoR   2018 Sep 21, 7:07pm  

Patrick says
Poland benefits tremendously from its lack of "diversity".
And adherence to its Catholic faith.
6   bob2356   2018 Sep 21, 7:47pm  

Patrick says

In one of her tweets Hopkins calls Poland one of the safest countries in Europe,


Except for all the countries that are safer, many of whom took in considerable refugees. But hey don't let facts confuse a good bogus narrative.

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2018-mid®ion=150

As she reflects on Poland’s culture she compares it with the cities and countries of Western Europe. Poland, that is seen by Europe’s left as an authoritarian or even far right state,

WTF. Authoritarian far right countries are supposed to be safe. That's the whole point.
7   mell   2018 Sep 21, 7:59pm  

bob2356 says
Patrick says

In one of her tweets Hopkins calls Poland one of the safest countries in Europe,


Except for all the countries that are safer, many of whom took in considerable refugees. But hey don't let facts confuse a good bogus narrative.

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2018-mid®ion=150

As she reflects on Poland’s culture she compares it with the cities and countries of Western Europe. Poland, that is seen by Europe’s left as an authoritarian or even far right state,

WTF. Authoritarian far right countries are supposed to be safe. That's the whole point.


lol the chart clearly proves the point, on average the safest countries are all middle and eastern Europe where clearly a conservative trend has been sweeping the countries. Italy will join soon if the coalition under Salvini can do its work long enough. Ukraine is pretty poor (still) and France/Britain is currently a lost cause. In northern Europe the most leftists government, Sweden, has disastrous crime whereas Norway shut its borders long ago, Denmark recently and even Finland has begun doing so. All proves the point. Spain always used to be very safe, but I expect that to slide hard if they stay left and keep taking the rapefugees the other mediterranean countries don't want. They are just starting to fuck up.
8   HeadSet   2018 Sep 21, 7:59pm  

Prediction: countries with less diversity will take over leadership of the world and generate consistently higher living standards than countries who have fallen prey to the lie,

If your prediction comes true, those new leaders will be China, Japan, Korea, and Eastern Europe

But let me thrown in an uncomfortable truth to your diversity theory. Africa and the Middle East are filled with homogeneous populated nations (that is - little diversity), and most of those nations will be unlikely to assume any leadership role in the future. In fact, Zimbabwe and South Africa are two nations greatly weakened by ridding themselves of ethnic diversity.
9   mell   2018 Sep 21, 8:08pm  

HeadSet says
If your prediction comes true, those new leaders will be China, Japan, Korea, and Eastern Europe


This is already happening, Asia is overtaking the West in wealth per capita, Eastern Europe has gained a lot of ground on Western Europe lately etc.
10   HeadSet   2018 Sep 21, 8:20pm  

Asia is overtaking the West in wealth per capita

Per capita? That would be really hard to do just by the sheer number of people they would have to divide the national wealth by. For example, since China has 4 times the population of the US, it would need to have 4 times the GDP to have the same per capita income as the US. Japan may be closer, but with a third of the US population, but they only have about a quarter of the GDP. But I can see Japan pulling ahead since they have a declining birth rate and the GDP will constantly increase.
11   mell   2018 Sep 21, 8:49pm  

HeadSet says
Asia is overtaking the West in wealth per capita

Per capita? That would be really hard to do just by the sheer number of people they would have to divide the national wealth by. For example, since China has 4 times the population of the US, it would need to have 4 times the GDP to have the same per capita income as the US. Japan may be closer, but with a third of the US population, but they only have about a quarter of the GDP. But I can see Japan pulling ahead since they have a declining birth rate and the GDP will constantly increase.


Sire that's true overall but it's catching up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/09/05/new-york-eclipsed-city-with-most-extremely-wealthy-people/?utm_term=.3e57acfc4702

Will take a while longer for mainland China ;)
12   bob2356   2018 Sep 21, 11:25pm  

mell says
lol the chart clearly proves the point, on average the safest countries are all middle and eastern Europe where clearly a conservative trend has been sweeping the countries. Italy will join soon if the coalition under Salvini can do its work long enough. Ukraine is pretty poor (still) and France/Britain is currently a lost cause. In northern Europe the most leftists government, Sweden, has disastrous crime whereas Norway shut its borders long ago, Denmark recently and even Finland has begun doing so. All proves the point. Spain always used to be very safe, but I expect that to slide hard if they stay left and keep taking the rapefugees the other mediterranean countries don't want. They are just starting to fuck up.


You need to check your numbers of crime vs number of refugess. here is an interactive chart. http://www.europarl.europa.eu/external/html/welcomingeurope/default_en.htm

Look at the refugees vs population. Austria has the highest percentages but is the second safest country in europe. Germany took in almost as many as Austria and has almost the same crime rating as Poland. France took in 1/3 as many as germany and is the third worst in crime. Italy took in half as many as france is 4th worst on crime. Finland took in the same as france and is 4th safest. Denmark took in about the same as france and is right behind finland. Ireland took in 1/4 as many as France and is 5th most cirmes. Belgiam took in 1/2 as many as austria and is #10 for crime. Bulgaria took in 1/2 as many as Belgium and has the same crime. Spain??? seriously??? Spain took in same number of refugees as poland since 2015. Want to stand on that hand or draw some new cards? Norway is down with greece and bulgaria crime wise, two countries that took in about twice as many refugees as poland.

Want to explain how this all works since the numbers and your narrative don't match at all? It's true because I believe it should be true doesn't count.
13   BayArea   2018 Sep 21, 11:48pm  

I’ve been to Poland several times.

Their lack of diversity creates a strong sense of unity in the country. The people share a common upbringing, speak the same language, and predominantly follow the same religion.

There is a strong sense of national pride. Youth give up their seat on trains and buses. Youth respect their elderly.
14   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Sep 23, 3:25pm  

Unity is our Strength: Atlantic claims Immigration creates Divisive Tribalism, but refuses to consider reducing from Current High Levels.

The two Yale authors, professors Amy Chua and Jed Rubenfeld, describe the diversity created by immigration:

All of this has contributed to a climate in which every group in America—minorities and whites; conservatives and liberals; the working class and elites—feels under attack, pitted against the others not just for jobs and spoils, but for the right to define the nation’s identity. In these conditions, democracy devolves into a zero-sum competition, one in which parties succeed by stoking voters’ fears and appealing to their ugliest us-versus-them instincts.

Again, the authors do not suggest any immigration changes that could lower public fears over the elite’s determination to change the nation’s identity to suit their elite interests.


https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/23/atlantic-magazine-immigration-is-spiking-tribalism-in-america/
15   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Sep 23, 3:26pm  

How Poles handle aggressive Rapefugee Car Begging
www.youtube.com/embed/eHW2eWGqfTw
16   BayArea   2018 Sep 23, 3:51pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
How Poles handle aggressive Rapefugee Car Begging
www.youtube.com/embed/eHW2eWGqfTw


Poland is a law and order country.

There are few perpetrator surporters there like 50% of the people in the USA that would side with the car blocker and try to figure out why he’s acting out.
17   curious2   2018 Sep 23, 4:17pm  

P N Dr Lo R says
Patrick says
Poland benefits tremendously from its lack of "diversity".
And adherence to its Catholic faith.


No, their lack of diversity results from their refusal to do what the Pope tells them to do. He tells them to import and to support Muslims. Poles refuse, rightly. Defying the Catholic church, doing the opposite of what the Pope says, works much better for them than adhering to the "infallible" charlatans in the Vatican.

Ireland stood up too, and the Vatican cross-dressers showed their own unbelievable arrogance and lack of grace by calling that "a defeat for humanity."

BTW, I would really like to know why Nazinger became the first pope to resign in since 1415. He blamed his age, but other popes had continued longer and until they were older. Did he resign because of his involvement in priests' rampant molestation of children, or something in his Nazi background, or because he had told the truth about the inherent violence of Islam? Knowing the Vatican track record, I suspect the latter: he had to resign because for one moment he had dared to tell the truth.

In addition to the Vatican supporting Islam, one should also consider the complicated relationship between the Vatican and Nazis, which also did not help Poland:

18   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Sep 23, 4:35pm  

Patrick says
Diversity weakens us.
Unity strengthens us.
Bring back the melting pot.



The Metling Pot is the finest Immigration Policy.

It allows modest numbers of deserving, productive immigrants and the occasional truly oppressed person (ie a democratic activist fleeing threats from Iran) who already feel positively towards the USA and want to share two ways while acknowledging the fundamental superiority of the American System and Way of Life.

100,000 new Americans per year is fine. That's all that's needed.

Our current policy brings in those who simply to latch onto the Welfare State. Something that did not exist in the 1920s and acted as a mechanism to prevent freeloaders.
19   NDrLoR   2018 Sep 23, 6:57pm  

curious2 says
what the Pope tells them to do
I don't think the current Pope is a very good representative of Catholicism, more liberation theology which is just glorified Marxism. The next pope is going to be from the Baby Boom generation or younger and take the Church over the cliff.
20   RWSGFY   2018 Sep 23, 9:10pm  

Sorry, but Warsaw is nowhere near Paris. It's been totally destroyed during WWII and rebuilt in dreary Commie architecture style. The food is also pretty bland and the local beer us mediocre at best.
21   bob2356   2018 Sep 24, 4:00am  

bob2356 says

Want to explain how this all works since the numbers and your narrative don't match at all? It's true because I believe it should be true doesn't count.


Crickets chirping. Where are all the russian rapeugee propaganda kool aide drinkers to explain the contradictory numbers? Why is Austria the safest euro country before and after taking in the most refugees? Did they somehow send all the criminal refugees to sweden and only keep the good ones? Great trick. Why is homogeneous no conflict no refugee poland only mid pack way behind refugee overrun austria?

Who deleted my post comparing 2014 crime rates with 2017 crime rates? Pretty fucking lame.
22   bob2356   2018 Sep 24, 4:02am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
100,000 new Americans per year is fine. That's all that's needed.

Our current policy brings in those who simply to latch onto the Welfare State. Something that did not exist in the 1920s and acted as a mechanism to prevent freeloaders.


So true, they became mobsters instead of collecting welfare.
24   Patrick   2018 Nov 16, 5:31pm  

This site has Poland's avg IQ ranked at 35 out of 110 countries:

https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php
25   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 16, 6:10pm  

bob2356 says
So true, they became mobsters instead of collecting welfare.


All the Italians and Irish were mobsters?

What, I have to give billions to illegals to stop them from committing crimes? How about they just don't come and get deported if they do.
26   Patrick   2018 Nov 16, 6:42pm  

The Irish and Italians were almost entirely legal immigrants. They did not start by breaking laws to get here.

The illegals are, however, illegal. They are immediately and profoundly giving a big "fuck you" to @bob2356 and all other Americans by saying "we do not care at all about your laws, history, principles, or anything else, we just want your money."
27   BayArea   2018 Nov 17, 7:25am  

Tim Aurora says
What the heck does Poland have. Low IQ country despite Marie Curie ( who became French Citizen) and lo behold all Poles



Ive always heard the opposite and my experience with Polish scientists, engineers, and professors in Silicon Valley supports that.

I recommend you take a trip to Poland. Krakow and Gdańsk are beautiful and your money goes a lot further than anywhere in Western Europe. Listen to Chopin as you tour ?
28   Bd6r   2018 Nov 17, 8:06am  

Tim Aurora says
What the heck does Poland have. Low IQ country despite Marie Curie ( who became French Citizen) and lo behold all Poles think they are in France.

Of course they are stupid. They are Fucking White Males, who have never invented anything. Nicolaus Copernicus was a Muslim, Alexander Jablonski was transgendered Inuit, Tadeusz Reichstein was I do not know who, probably a Hispanic womyn.
BayArea says
Ive always heard the opposite and my experience with Polish scientists, engineers, and professors in Silicon Valley supports that.

You are a racist, bigot, and sexist for saying that. If you would chastise Polish people as "stupid, fucking white males who have stolen everything from womyn and minorites", then you would be a very good person for the Left.
29   BayArea   2018 Nov 17, 8:23am  

dr6B says
Tim Aurora says
What the heck does Poland have. Low IQ country despite Marie Curie ( who became French Citizen) and lo behold all Poles think they are in France.

Of course they are stupid. They are Fucking White Males, who have never invented anything. Nicolaus Copernicus was a Muslim, Alexander Jablonski was transgendered Inuit, Tadeusz Reichstein was I do not know who, probably a Hispanic womyn.
BayArea says
Ive always heard the opposite and my experience with Polish scientists, engineers, and professors in Silicon Valley supports that.

You are a racist, bigot, and sexist for saying that. If you would chastise Polish people as "stupid, fucking white males who have stolen everything from womyn and minorites", then you would be a very good person for the



Bwahahaha

Thank you sir for the laugh.
30   lostand confused   2018 Nov 17, 8:33am  

BayArea says
Bwahahaha

Thank you sir for the laugh

LOl-but sadly the left is serious.
31   Bd6r   2018 Nov 17, 8:35am  

BayArea says
Thank you sir for the laugh.

You are very welcome. I just slightly rephrased mantra of the modern Left, they must be persons with an excellent sense of humor.
33   Bd6r   2018 Dec 10, 12:55pm  

Tim Aurora says
Of course. American Indians and African Americans should have realized that.

That is not a snide remark -- it is sad truth. Fate of Native Americans is an example of diversification and shows what happens when an outside population with different cultural values takes over.
34   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Dec 10, 1:40pm  

Tim Aurora says
Of course. American Indians and African Americans should have realized that. Snide remarks aside, there are advantages to both. And regulated immigrations is sometimes needed and is helpful.


Yep, so why repeat a mistake? Learn from history, don't repeat it.

And unlike American Indians, we are not getting brilliant scientists from the Planet Wakanda who are bringing fusion reactors and infinite chocolate cookie machines, which would be the equivalent.

But rather the vast majority are unskilled and many are outright traditional civilization enemies, like the Muslims. They think they invented the lightbulb, steam engine, combustion engine, and quantum physics, and somehow Whites stole it from them. Like Black Nationalists. However, the latter are born here, we don't need to take Muslims.

And in 100 years Muslims will have no regrets or guilt about turning the USA into Yemen Part 2.
35   Bd6r   2018 Dec 10, 1:44pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
And unlike American Indians, we are not getting brilliant scientists from the Planet Wakanda

We are getting some quite talented individuals though:


Not saying that immigration should be unlimited - but some controlled immigration is quite good.
36   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Dec 10, 1:48pm  

d6rB says
Not saying that immigration should be unlimited - but some controlled immigration is quite good.



Absolutely. I have no problem stealing the best and brightest. Especially since our Patent system is strong (and will be stronger once we strongarm China a bit more).

Toss in a little nationalistic Hamiltonian protectionism with the Patents, and we win big forever. Just a little less arbitrage for Wall Street.
37   Goran_K   2018 Dec 10, 2:07pm  

Tim Aurora says
What the heck does Poland have. Low IQ country


Leftists are often the most racist people I have ever met. Without fail.
38   Patrick   2018 Dec 10, 9:14pm  

d6rB says

Not saying that immigration should be unlimited - but some controlled immigration is quite good.


I agree. If we get talented people who are willing to become American, some immigration is good.

What we do not need:

* people who are so desperate that their only skill is the willingness to work for illegally low wages
* people who really don't give a shit about America, its history, or its ideals (many but not all Chinese are like this - sorry, it's true and everyone knows it, even had a Chinese co-worker tell me so)
* people who want to kill us all if we refuse to submit to their religion
39   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Dec 10, 9:47pm  



Looks like Poland is European normative.

However this map tells us we definitely don't want unskilled immigrants coming from the Middle East or Africa.

But remember, it's okay to call Poles stupid but don't suggest that we shouldn't take unskilled immigrants from the most backward parts of the world, that would be racist.
40   just_passing_through   2018 Dec 10, 10:26pm  

Tim Aurora
What the heck does Poland have


For starters, they know Guam doesn't matter.

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