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Why can't those that claim the Science is settled ever do anything right?


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2018 May 24, 8:41am   1,249 views  9 comments

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https://apnews.com/bfd97c1dee114528bd587a3d1abff6f8/New-US-weather-satellite-can't-keep-cool,-could-hurt-photos


CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) — The nation’s newest weather satellite, launched less than three months ago, has a serious cooling problem that could affect the quality of its pictures.

The trouble is with the GOES-17 satellite’s premier instrument for taking images of hurricanes, wildfires, volcanic eruptions and other natural calamities, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said Wednesday. The imager’s infrared sensors aren’t getting properly cooled.

Experts are scrambling to understand what went wrong and how to fix it. Officials expect it will take at least a few months to figure out.

“As you can imagine, doing this remotely from 22,000 miles below only looking at the on-orbit data is a challenge,” said Steve Volz, head of NOAA’s satellite and information service.

NOAA stresses that three other GOES satellites in orbit, including GOES-16 launched in 2016, are healthy and meeting forecasting needs. Launched in 2016 as the first in a $11 billion effort to revolutionize forecasting, GOES-16 monitors the Atlantic and East Coast. GOES-17, the second in the series, is intended to provide the same sophisticated coverage for the western U.S. and Pacific region.

Volz told reporters the trouble was discovered three weeks ago during the satellite’s routine checkout in orbit. The satellite was launched by NASA on March 1 from Cape Canaveral, Florida.

“This is a serious problem,” Volz said. The infrared channels “are important elements of our observing requirement, and if they are not functioning fully, it is a loss.”

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1   Ceffer   2018 May 24, 9:19am  

"The policy is settled, and we need to tailor the science to suit the policy!"

Lysenko lives! Let the peasants starve for the Great God of Central Planning in the Great Socialist Paradise1
2   Strategist   2018 May 24, 10:26am  

Tenpoundbass says
Why can't those that claim the Science is settled ever do anything right?


Science is never settled. Scientific research will go on for ever. Knowing what does not work is just as important as knowing what does work.
Ultra conservatives tend to be anti science. They don't like change. I have never understood why change for the better is opposed so much. eg Solar energy. It's cheaper, cleaner and easier to harness than fossil fuels, yet the ultra conservatives continue to oppose it. Weird.
3   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2018 May 24, 10:36am  

I'm not knocking all Scientist. This craft certainly didn't come from the Trump administration it. This was planned way back in 2012.

http://gpm.cptec.inpe.br/portal/pdf/relatorios/anexo14_2013.pdf

All's I ask is they under basic engineering if they are going to create instruments that generates heat, then have a good cooling system and a heat-sink to keep it from over heating other sensitive instruments. There's not an iota of reflective Kevlar to insulate it from radiant heat.
4   Strategist   2018 May 24, 10:46am  

Tenpoundbass says
All's I ask is they under basic engineering if they are going to create instruments that generates heat, then have a good cooling system and a heat-sink to keep it from over heating other sensitive instruments. There's not an iota of reflective Kevlar to insulate it from radiant heat.


I'm sure the engineers understand their stuff. Some will be better than others, and mistakes will always be made. It all adds to the constantly expanding pool of knowledge.
The best inventions and discoveries that will help mankind will come from science books, not religious books.
5   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2018 May 24, 10:54am  

Strategist says
It all adds to the constantly expanding pool of knowledge.
The best inventions and discoveries that will help mankind will come from science books, not religious books.


We had that best knowledge pool in the world. We SJW'd it away and pissed down the drain. Now projects like this is powered more by Gender Studies than the quest for Science.
What we've got now is a bunch of kids doing science via a popular commitie using crude arts and crafts.

The taped Ray Ban wearers with the pocket protector and the same side parted hair or buzz cut analysts and engineers are gone. The autistic introverted number crunchers are gone. These people all did their College thesis on why Self Driving cars and AI is going to take over the world. Because it's easy to say without any real concrete facts or truth.
They all turned in the same regurgitated popular truth. They don't know Shit!
6   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2018 May 24, 11:08am  

I'm beginning to think Engineers and designers have been conditioned to not consider longevity, or overbuild to make robust designs that stand up to the rigors of mobility and time.
They have been so focused on cheap and fast with the intention of planned obsolescence that many of these no brainier precautions aren't even considered until an after thought if at all.
Just look at the Computers until the 856 came out. The hardware the boards the chips the cases were all military grade. These were robust hardy machines. Many of them would still work today if you still a 0086, 286, 386, 486 even the earlier Pentium computers were Solid machines.
The last 4 laptops I've bought lasted exactly 2 years before they broke. I used to give laptops away still in good condition after three years.

Elon Musk has the most brilliant minds in the world working with him. Look at all of his failures time and time again. Science is worthless if you don't know how to use the spice of common sense.
7   justme   2018 May 24, 11:22am  

Let me rewrite the headline for you:

Greenhouse-effect denier / climate-change denier cites cooling engineering problem with weather satellite as evidence that climate is not affected by CO2 concentration.
Because people who trust settled science can never do anything right!

There. Now all readers may decide whether the above makes any sense whatsoever, and whether this type of thinking is indicative of rationality.
8   georgeliberte   2018 May 24, 11:35am  

Tenpoundbass says, "These people all did their College thesis on why Self Driving cars and AI is" . . .perpetuating White Male Privilege and must not be allowed.
9   Strategist   2018 May 24, 1:02pm  

Tenpoundbass says
Elon Musk has the most brilliant minds in the world working with him. Look at all of his failures time and time again. Science is worthless if you don't know how to use the spice of common sense.


You are not getting the message.
How many times did the Wright brothers fail before they succeeded?

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