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U.S. intelligence warns of Venezuela collapse


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2016 May 13, 6:44pm   13,194 views  31 comments

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http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-u.s.-venezuela-20160513-snap-story.html

Associated Press An antigovernment protester holds a Venezuelan flag as security forces block the opposition from reaching the National Electoral Council in Caracas, Venezuela. An antigovernment protester holds a Venezuelan flag as security forces block the opposition from reaching the National Electoral Council in Caracas, Venezuela.

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1   NDrLoR   2016 May 13, 6:44pm  

The glories of socialism.

2   HEY YOU   2016 May 13, 7:00pm  

How can we save Murika?
Get ALL Rep/Con/Tea corporations & individuals off govt./tax dollar supported SOCIALISM.

3   NDrLoR   2016 May 13, 8:16pm  

Ironman says

the Venezuelan Chamber of Food (Cavidea)

This stands to reason.

4   Strategist   2016 May 13, 8:22pm  

Ironman says

As time went by, desperate Venezuelans grew anxious over not being able to buy food. Then they started jumping over the gates.

Comrade Jazz and Comrade Dan, take note.......How come evil, exploiting, capitalistic America not have that problem?

5   curious2   2016 May 13, 8:36pm  

Wow - such dire news, from the country with the world's largest oil reserves, seems shocking and a much bigger deal than several of the day's headlines that I had seen reported elsewhere. Thanks for posting here.

6   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 May 13, 10:00pm  

I think the lesson to be learned here is never ever give creedence to Danny Glover, Sean Penn, Harry Belafonte, or any of the other boobs that think they have a clue in regards to politics.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/09/25/kevin-spacey-meets-with-hugo-chavez-in-venezuela.html

Or that other guy that doesn't have a clue when it comes to politics:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30271562/ns/world_news-americas/t/chavez-obama-i-want-be-your-friend/

7   Heraclitusstudent   2016 May 13, 10:02pm  

That's what happen when you rely on oil to screw with the US.
Hopefully Putin and the Saudis are next.

8   NDrLoR   2016 May 14, 8:07am  

dodgerfanjohn says

Danny Glover, Sean Penn, Harry Belafonte, or any of the other boobs

The proper term is "useful idiots", I think coined by Stalin. Add Dean Reed to the list (look him up).

9   Y   2016 May 14, 8:15am  

Father, forgive their stupidity, for they know not what they represent...

Strategist says

Comrade Jazz and Comrade Dan, take note.......How come evil, exploiting, capitalistic America not have that problem?

10   Y   2016 May 14, 8:17am  

Be careful what you wish for.
"Am hungry and have nukes" doesn't sound like a stable combination...

Heraclitusstudent says

Hopefully Putin and the Saudis are next.

11   Ceffer   2016 May 14, 11:13am  

It's really no problem. Socialist governments just start killing the people until the survivors begin admitting again that they live in a socialist paradise.

12   Shaman   2016 May 14, 11:58am  

By far the easiest government to manage is one based on Laize Faire capitalism. It is incredibly difficult to manage a socialist government and relies on the willingness of the governed to support this system. Any misstep of government is magnified and echoed in public resentment which can lead to a vicious spiral that ends in chaos and anarchy. This spells disaster for the very people whom socialism is supposed to benefit.
Meanwhile capitalism is much more stable and resilient, but you will ALWAYS have the poor losers on the fringes for people to wring their hands over.

13   Strategist   2016 May 14, 1:19pm  

Ironman says

US on Venezuela: 'You can hear the ice cracking. A crisis is coming'

The United States is increasingly concerned about the potential for an economic and political meltdown in Venezuela, spurred by fears of a debt default, growing street protests and deterioration of its oil sector, U.S. intelligence officials said on Friday.

"You can hear the ice cracking. You know there's a crisis coming," one U.S. official said. "Our pressure on this isn't going to resolve this issue."

Mobs in Venezuela have stolen flour, chicken and even underwear this week as looting increases across the crisis-hit OPEC nation where many basic products have run short, and the U.S. officials said this could spiral into widespread unrest. Soldiers fired tear gas at stone-throwing protesters on Wednesday as Venezuela's opposition marched to pressure electoral authorities into allowing a recall referendum against Maduro.

I'm shocked I tell you, I'm shocked.
Watch them blame America.

14   Ceffer   2016 May 14, 2:37pm  

Socialists being snobby about the lower caste communist bounders? Is there no comraradie in comrade anymore?

15   Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses   2016 May 14, 5:40pm  

dodgerdumbfuck?

Hey, lets pull some posts of yours from the past, how renting made more sense and prices weren't going up due to overbuilding! Super duper economic anaylisis there sport!

I'll have to look up that person you mentioned, if you hate him this much, he also must be much smarter than you!

17   Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses   2016 May 14, 8:14pm  

you keep attacking that other guy.

did he really leave you that butthurt?

you really are a sad loser!

18   Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses   2016 May 14, 10:10pm  

WorkInProgress says

Could you be more of a fuckhole? Clinton is a criminal.

sure. for crimes that 13 hours of testimony in front of the senate, 100+ investigations, and 10 year of GOP attacks can't produce. seriously, unplug fox.

19   GNL   2016 May 15, 6:28am  

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

sure. for crimes that 13 hours of testimony in front of the senate, 100+ investigations, and 10 year of GOP attacks can't produce. seriously, unplug fox.

Wow, you really are a fuckhole. Hillary and Bill are career criminals and you didn't answer my questions.

20   justme   2016 May 15, 6:40am  

The American state department is not lifting a finger to help the people of Venezuela. Instead they are licking their lips and waiting to loot the country.

21   anonymous   2016 May 17, 5:35pm  

Which is good reason for you to be voting Clinton, amirite

22   turtledove   2016 May 17, 6:04pm  

Strategist says

Aren't you over reacting a bit?

If he's still concerned about the 2017 US economic meltdown in addition to his concern over the melting south... then he should probably stick with South America.

23   turtledove   2016 May 17, 6:15pm  

justme says

The American state department is not lifting a finger to help the people of Venezuela. Instead they are licking their lips and waiting to loot the country.

I wish that's what they'd do. That's better than staging a half-assed, police-military mission to help them find "democracy." At least the other way is more honest, quick, and cheap.... Wars get expensive without the spoils to the victor. Or, we could just mind our own business and let them sort it out for themselves. But we all know that's not the way we do things... So, I say if we're going to involve ourselves, we should walk away with the spoils. Those oil reserves will come in handy.

24   Strategist   2016 May 17, 7:37pm  

Ironman says

Strategist says

our new home in North San Diego County (still haven't moved).

Actually, why are you moving? I though Orange County was the place to be?

North San Diego is awesome too. All our rentals are in OC.
Great weather
Less pollution
A more rural lifestyle with lots of acreage.
Proximity to everything.
Better prices than OC.

25   Strategist   2016 May 17, 7:41pm  

Ironman says

Strategist says

our new home in North San Diego County (still haven't moved).

Actually, why are you moving? I though Orange County was the place to be?

You need to come down to So Cal. You will love it. Do you enjoy paying the highest property tax in the country?

26   Strategist   2016 May 17, 8:01pm  

Ironman says

Strategist says

Do you enjoy paying the highest property tax in the country?

No, but I like paying a lot less for the real estate than CA, so overall, it's less costly.

What's a 3/2 on 3/4 of a acre with a pool cost in that area?

About $700K I would say. We did get a much bigger place with 3 acres, and spectacular views. I don't think I could afford a house like that in OC. Guess what? We have propane.

27   turtledove   2016 May 17, 8:36pm  

You accuse me of being overly anecdotal... So, here I go again. The average ambient humidity is increasing. I know this because it's a bitch to straighten my hair, which gets harder to straighten when the humidity rises. What was only a problem when I was in Miami 20 years ago - is now a problem in SoCal. I grew up in SoCal, so my hair barometer data extends several decades.... I don't care about icecaps, or which plant might be thriving where... but when it affects my hair, that's a problem and we need to do something about it asap. I refuse to be on a permanent bad hair day. To take this one step further... If the results lead to accelerated aging due to sun exposure -- then we're really going to have a problem. Stop talking about the planet and possible skin cancer. Focus on accelerated aging and you will get the attention you crave from every person over the age of 35.

Kind of kidding, kind of serious.

28   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 May 17, 9:02pm  

Strategist says

Those who live on $1.25 can't afford fossil fuels, and thus cannot pollute much

So why are we letting them in by the millions into Europe and the USA? Horrible for the environment.

Hey, how many elections and referendums does the opposition keep losing? They're like Ted Cruz down there.

29   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 May 18, 4:21am  

TD it's called El Niño.

If you want dry air, stay away from OC, South Bay, and Westside. Spend more time in Woodland Hills, Simi Valley, Santa Clarita, and IE.

30   turtledove   2016 May 18, 9:31am  

Strategist says

About $700K I would say. We did get a much bigger place with 3 acres, and spectacular views.

So where did you end up? I'm guessing Fallbrook or Bonsall. I used to go to summer camp in Bonsall (Rawhide Ranch).

31   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 May 19, 6:23pm  

I agree with you Jazz. My family lives a block from the beach there. But TD was talking about humidity and it does get humid there. Plus the old guys that hang out in the morning by the donut shop north of the pier are creepy and probably all on humaniplex.

Of course now that I realize TD is more from San Diego, I see her point. Downtown San Diego is hella humid in the summers. Comic con used to get hella stank because of the overweight dudes that were there and the constant crop dusting.

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