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They've found pipe bombs in their home.

The only way Obama could nave NOT been this incompetent as he appears. Is if he has Dr Evil aspirations.

He wants to unleash his ISIS minions on the world and demand 1 (dunt dunt DUNT!) Million dollars!

All sources do not identify a motive. Terrorism is a possibility but that doesn't look a definite forgone conclusion.

Why do you want this to be Islamic terrorism so bad? What's in it for you?

Preliminary ... maybe ...
Yesterday's shooters in San B. were candidate middle class -- eerie plus+

does "bbb" stand for "bring back bush"

does "lol" stand for "long on lead"

5000 rounds of ammo, 12 pipe bombs, and hundreds of tools to make improvised explosives were found in the house searched by the FBI.

I can see why one might not want to "rush to judgement" in declaring it a terrorist act :|

The only bad wet dream is if you are transgendered and they fucked up the operation..
bgamall4 says

. It is a bad wet dream for world domination.

WW3?

bgamall4 says

He is a Zionist bastard. That is what is in it for Ironman. He wants America to hate like Zionism hates. And no, Zionism is not a religion, not Judaism. It is a bad wet dream for world domination.

Still not a single word of criticism for those 3 Muslim scums.

bgamall4 says

It is down to 2. They can't even get numbers right.

We're all waiting for the pictures of smiling actors, Gary.

Can't wait to see what civil rights they will take away now.

anonymous says

Now now - "they" won't really be taking away anymore of our rights - "they" will be carefully modifying the circumstances under which you can exercise those rights and or privileges to ensure the well being of the country while at the same time ensuring these recent "modifications" don't apply to any "undocumented citizens" lest we become politically incorrect and offend one of our new residents.

You still believe in santa and the easter bunny don't you?

indigenous says

Can't wait to see what civil rights they will take away now.

Probably none with Obama around. They should:
Spy on every single mosque and every single person who attends one.
Spy on every single Muslim who is religious.
Spy on every single young male Muslim.
Spy on every single idiot that visits terrorist countries.
Spy on every single person that frequently calls these countries.
Offer $1 million rewards for information leading to a conviction of any terrorist.
Deport every single Muslim that displays hate towards infidels.

anonymous says

Why yes - yes I do Bob, then again I know the difference between a 727 and a 737.

Very Nice, eh Bobby?

BOHICA

America is getting quite adept at BOHICA thanks to the wonderful indoctrination we are getting. OR we could do for ourselves. We need more gun training.

Strategist says

Probably none with Obama around. They should:

There have been many controversial and questionably legal surveillance efforts by federal and state bodies targeted at mosques, post 9/11. They all report the same thing: "we hear prayers". Islamic terrorism, to date, has foreign radicalizing sources for attacks committed in the US. The form of Islam practiced directly in our country, by our tribe members (using tribe here as a synonym for Americans), is unequivocally non-radical in nature.

The fear on you is so thick it must follow you around like a visible cloud. Your proposals look like someone who expects to find Islamic terrorists in the bushes of every small town in America. Get real! Your odds of getting eaten by a shark or winning the lottery are higher. What's next? You going to send them to internment camps? I am far more afraid of the reaction and rhetoric of the American population than I am of terrorism.

I'd love to see how you would react if we every went to war with a country which had military capabilities more matching our own. I'm sure you would be the first to cry to lock up all the Americans with that nation state heritage or strong relationship. You cry out for a repeat of things that are considered some of the darkest, most shameful, and un-American things our country has ever done.

Land of the free (tenuously) and home of the brave (yeah, maybe not so much anymore).

Unarmed People gunned down by radical Islamic terrorists in France. Unarmed people gunned down in France at a newspaper. Unarmed people gunned down in a Christmas party in San Bernadino. The people that did it had planted a bomb and had bomb making tools.

But you tell me you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction. Rew, you head is in the clouds and you can't see the ground you walk on. Western nations are under attack by radica Islamic terrorists.

The problem is that Westerners can't envision that other cultures have different ideologies.

That because somebody wears a Polo Shirt with Dockers Pants and a Can of Coke and a pack of Lucky Strikes in the hand, that they're all on board with Western Culture.

Muslims don't FEEL like they're 'beneath' us - they feel they are our SUPERIOR. They believe Islam is Superior to the Decadent West. The write off their current status as a fluke of trickery and accidents, soon to be rectified with a great Counterattack against the Kaffir, to kick off once the Caliphate begins. And in oil rich states, they don't feel poor relative to us at all.

FFS, Muslims are not oppressed - until the last century, they oppressed a quarter of EUROPE. They oppressed Indians, Africans, Chinese. Exported millions of White European Slaves between 1200-1900.

Thanks Bush & Rep/Con/Tea slime voters for not protecting America on 9/11.
They are inventive. they created ISIS.

A legal 2nd Amendment gun toting American citizen attacks San Bernandino.
Was he a Rep/Con/Tea voter,probably?
Did he kill any R/C/Ts? Doesn't matter, the 2nd Amendment trumps their lives

Terrorists, or enthusiastic pipebomb hobbyists?

They were just building clocks.

Rew says

There have been many controversial and questionably legal surveillance efforts by federal and state bodies targeted at mosques, post 9/11. They all report the same thing: "we hear prayers". Islamic terrorism, to date, has foreign radicalizing sources for attacks committed in the US. The form of Islam practiced directly in our country, by our tribe members (using tribe here as a synonym for Americans), is unequivocally non-radical in nature.

The fear on you is so thick it must follow you around like a visible cloud. Your proposals look like someone who expects to find Islamic terrorists in the bushes of every small town in America. Get real! Your odds of getting eaten by a shark or winning the lottery are higher. What's next? You going to send them to internment camps? I am far more afraid of the reaction and rhetoric of the American population than I am of terrorism.

I am basically calling for more safety by sacrificing some of our rights. In other words......Profiling and data mining.
Sure, our chances of dying in a terrorist act are almost none, but the havoc they can cause can be immense. We must reduce terrorism at all costs, and the only way we can do that is pinpointing the root cause, Islam. Denying the problem only makes it worse. The group most likely to benefit from reduced terrorism are Muslims themselves, because then they won't be discriminated as much.
I am an atheist, and I consider all religions as silly and an impediment to progress, but the most destructive of all religions is Islam with it's sickening Sharia laws. We will never get rid of these sharia laws unless we criticize them first. It took criticism, war and destruction to get rid of slavery, but it was the right thing to do. Not doing the same to Islam would be the wrong thing to do.

Strategist says

We must reduce terrorism at all costs

Dangerous words.

Strategist says

Denying the problem only makes it worse.

It's a problem, just not something overly significant for the US. Far greater issues and threats.

Strategist says

The group most likely to benefit from reduced terrorism are Muslims themselves, because then they won't be discriminated as much.

Yes, I'm sure they wouldn't suffer greater with the proposals you would make. To suggest this would somehow alleviate discrimination against them is asinine.

Strategist says

I am an atheist, and I consider all religions as silly and an impediment to progress, but the most destructive of all religions is Islam with it's sickening Sharia laws. We will never get rid of these sharia laws unless we criticize them first.

I like that. I think that is exactly right. Being critical of something is far more different than vilifying and seeking to destroy it though. There are radical practices that are absolutely abhorrent in fringe radical groups like IS. But that's actually NOT anywhere close to moderate Sharia and most muslims who are practicing or interpreting "Sharia" in their beliefs are doing so within the framework of national laws for the countries they live in.

This isn't a "sharia" supplants the laws of a country issue. This is much like how Christian and Jewish 'laws' and practices are done by the faithful in any country. All three of these religions are 'law' based.

dodgerfanjohn says

But you tell me you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction. Rew, you head is in the clouds and you can't see the ground you walk on. Western nations are under attack by radica Islamic terrorists.

Were you alive when the Cuban Missile crisis was going on? I doubt it. I think you probably would have drank yourself into oblivion or something. The threat of foreign Islamic terrorism to the US pales into comparison to the bigger threats of the 20th century.

Grow a pair. Get off the internet. Stop watching the news. You will live a happier life in ignorance, because I don't think you can correctly weigh what "the scary" stuff really is.

You are far far more likely to be under attack by your neighbor with a fire arm, than by a radical islamist. Do you cower in fear each day because of that?

The dark side closes in on you. Your fear will drive you to hate.

Rew says

Strategist says

I am an atheist, and I consider all religions as silly and an impediment to progress, but the most destructive of all religions is Islam with it's sickening Sharia laws. We will never get rid of these sharia laws unless we criticize them first.

I like that. I think that is exactly right. Being critical of something is far more different than vilifying and seeking to destroy it though. There are radical practices that are absolutely abhorrent in fringe radical groups like IS. But that's actually NOT anywhere close to moderate Sharia and most muslims who are practicing or interpreting "Sharia" in their beliefs are doing so within the framework of national laws for the countries they live in.

This is the problem. You cannot truly criticize sharia based laws and practices without criticizing Muslims who practice it, and Islam that demands it.
And there is no such thing as moderate Sharia.

Rew says

dodgerfanjohn says

But you tell me you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction. Rew, you head is in the clouds and you can't see the ground you walk on. Western nations are under attack by radica Islamic terrorists.

Were you alive when the Cuban Missile crisis was going on? I doubt it. I think you probably would have drank yourself into oblivion or something. The threat of foreign Islamic terrorism to the US pales into comparison to the bigger threats of the 20th century.

Grow a pair. Get off the internet. Stop watching the news. You will live a happier life in ignorance, because I don't think you can correctly weigh what "the scary" stuff really is.

+1

If we decide to take them seriously they will be out in no time. And by "seriously" I mean WWII kind of seriously.

Strategist says

And there is no such thing as moderate Sharia.

Horse-crap. Plenty of Muslim practitioners are not fundamentalist and hold to some of the teaching of Sharia.

lalalala says

If we decide to take them seriously they will be out in no time. And by "seriously" I mean WWII kind of seriously.

Which we could choose to do, but is obviously way out of proportion with the threat actually posed. America would be considered a rogue nation the day after such action.

It's not a nice neat little picture wrapped up in a bow: Islam bad, US good, bomb bomb bomb.

breaking - officials confirm terrorist attack and links to terror suspects as part of attack coordination.

Rew says

Why do you want this to be Islamic terrorism so bad? What's in it for you?

what the fuck is wrong with you?

Evidence, please:

* That Jews and Christians, even rarely, stone adulterers in modern times.
* That American Jews or Christians or Anybody Else, relative to population, commit more terrorism in the name of religion than Muslims.
* That the explosion of Rapes in Sweden, Norway, Finland aren't driven by the new influx of tens of thousands of Muslim immigrants. I guess Mikka and Sven magically started raping more, after generations of the lowest rape rates in the World, right around the time of mass Islamic Immigration into Scandinavia, what a coincidence.

Horse-crap. Plenty of Muslim practitioners are not fundamentalist and hold to some of the teaching of Sharia.

Technically, you're right. Only 40% of UK Muslims want Shar'ia.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

Rew says

Strategist says

And there is no such thing as moderate Sharia.

Horse-crap. Plenty of Muslim practitioners are not fundamentalist and hold to some of the teaching of Sharia.

Sharia laws are sharia laws. If you pick and choose you are not practicing sharia laws. These same Muslims who don't practice the Sharia laws, will never criticize them, and that to me is a sign of support.

landtof says

what the fuck is wrong with you?

Regressive Leftists love to screech over a few dimwits who won't bake a cake for a gay couple, but go into defensive overdrive during murderous Islamist Terror Attacks to defend Islam.

Rew says

The threat of foreign Islamic terrorism to the US pales into comparison to the bigger threats of the 20th century.

Like global warming-err climate change

bgamall4 says

Sorry, until what is on the cell phones that were confiscated from those in that building is made public, this is a false flag or fake, and the government cannot be trusted.

And if they do you will provide proof the cell phones were doctored by Israeli Zionist. You already have that proof don't ya.

Rew says

All sources do not identify a motive. Terrorism is a possibility but that doesn't look a definite forgone conclusion.

Why do you want this to be Islamic terrorism so bad? What's in it for you?

Because it is obvious that it is terrorism. Our nation is under attack, and Obama pretending it's not isn't helping us unite as a nation against a threat.

Besides I'm sure you read the news today, it's already declared as act of terror, the shooters pledged allegiance to ISIS during shooting.

FortWayne says

Besides I'm sure you read the news today, it's already declared as act of terror, the shooters pledged allegiance to ISIS during shooting.

That news is old news we already knew. The foolish government is well behind.

Ironman says

The FBI knew that as soon as they gained access to the apartment and garage. It's only the asshole in the White House that can't come out and be honest with the American citizens.

You are so naive Iron. If you call Islam peaceful, they won't hurt you.

dodgerfanjohn says

But you tell me you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction. Rew, you head is in the clouds and you can't see the ground you walk on. Western nations are under attack by radica Islamic terrorists.

Are you actually living in fear? Are you seeing radical Islamic terrorists in the shadows? You should move away from population centers. Maybe live up in the mountains.

@bgamall4

You're correct, and the empty magazines from the shooters are from AKs, not ARs...news photos prove this. There's no way a tiny woman no more than 100 lbs could've worn all that gear and wielded an AK. This is once again looking like a gov't job...gotta get the public behind another war.