2015 Feb 9, 7:43am
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We can't ban offensive speech because then we'd be at the mercy of the most easily offended; the lowest common denominator, and wouldn't be able to discuss jack shit.
There are many ideas that we will never agree on. The left and the right have different ways of approaching governance, based on contrasting philosophies. But many of the ultimate goals — economic prosperity, better health care and education, etc. — are the same. We just don’t share the same vision of how to achieve them.How, then, do we live together in this world of differing ideas? For starters, let’s agree that the ideas are fair game. If you think my idea is awful, you should say as much. But there is a difference between attacking an idea and attacking the person behind that idea. Labeling someone as an “-ist” who believes in an “-ism” because of the person’s policy preference is just a shortcut to playground-style name-calling, cloaked in political terminology. It’s also generally a good indication that the attacker doesn’t have a solid argument and needs a way to end debate before it has even begun.Similarly, people too often attack not just an idea but also the supposed intent behind an idea. That raises the emotional level of the debate and might seem like it strengthens the attacker’s side, but it’s a terrible way to make a point. Assuming the worst about your opponents’ intentions has the effect of demonizing their ideas, removing the need for sound counter-reasoning and fact-based argument. That’s not a good environment for the exchange of ideas.
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I have a number of disagreements with many of the posters, in particular Wookie Man and 10 lb bass but they pale in importance to the garbage and gaslighting being spewed by the left.
One of the biggest issues I have is when I know of personal information from a source I don't want to dox and someone says it's a lie. There's no motivation for me to lie. I just wouldn't post on the topic. Plain and simple. I'm going to tell you that you're wrong and I have legitimate information. Just because I'm not willing to risk peoples jobs and personal information on this site, doesn't make some of my comments untrue.
Wait until I retire and move out of state. My personal experience will blow some minds :)I use rea life examples sometimes but there’s others where I wanna scream bullshit and sit the poster down like a little child and tell them how horribly wrong they are. 7-10 years.
The authoritarians are ALL on the left.
The left believes in collectivism, elimination of private property, and the primacy of the state over family and religion. Unless your a sheep you will revolt. If you do revolt you will be eliminated.
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).
the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).
Patrick saysthe belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).Sounds reasonable to me. If someone wants to be queer, tranny, or whatever, I have no problem with that. If they insist on making me accept them as mainstream or try to indoctrinate my kids, then we have a problem.
And that's where the breakdown occurs. The indoctrination of it all. That it's normal.
WookieMan saysAnd that's where the breakdown occurs. The indoctrination of it all. That it's normal.I agree. The indoctrination is the truly evil part, especially because they target children and ruin their lives.
They get government child support when these guys ultimately go to prison. The incentive from their own culture and then the government is for black men to go to jail. That's literally their job to provide for the kids. Get busted so baby mama can get a check
white people are only 36% of California and falling fast
Never considered that part of it. An actual financial incentive to go to jail.
Hispanics are white or not? They hate a certain non-white race much more than anyone else
Not that any of you would watch it.
hatred of Trump was never incitement of violence
That's academia for you. Not actually about doing anything, just talking in circles.
I was a liberal arts major at first and it was very depressing how no one would agree on anything, all constantly trying to stomp each other because of ego, and no one with any clear job path.
hatred of Trump was never incitement of violence,
I've got two boys and I'm probably going to push them to go the trades route with come CC courses on business. Or a STEM field. They'd have a leg up with engineering due to my wife's work. I just don't want them going near the bull shit minimum requirements/courses at a university that do nothing towards getting an engineering degree. Basically the indoctrination courses.
Rin's plan: GED at 16, Trade for a year or two, then college later.
Finally, it's super-useful for everyone to have a basic trade they can fall back on. Construction, plumbing, electric, whatever.
Zen & Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: Learn to love fixing the motor, then think about physics or mechanical engineering
Something like Rin's plan: GED at 16, Trade for a year or two, then college later.
And in particular I think George Bush was acting on the best intel he had at the time post 9/11. I have to study up some more...there’s a few books I’ve had on the back burner....but I’m guessing that alone could be an epic thread. Once I’m read up on everything...I have no problem taking on the entire site.
For example, do you know of anyone, ever, who was unfriended for holding leftist views? The right tolerates the left, listens, and does not end friendship over such stuff even if they continue to disagree.
Most tribal disagreements on here result from Word Thinking (Credit: @ScottAdamsSays)."This word means that, and that's bad!""No, it means this, and that's good!"See this everywhere.
Serious question for @Patrick and the followers of this forum.Why did @Patrick censor the 'sjmoca' account by banning, when they did not break any forum rules? This forum purports to be a space to discuss ideas and disagree without insults. Patrick insulted 'sjmoca' by calling him a pharma shill, and then censored them by banning - seemingly only for posting data, ideas, or questions that Patrick personally disagrees with.It's Okay for you to be offended Patrick. It's not Okay, by your own rules, to censor those who disagree with you.
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