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The science of sex: 4 harsh truths about dating and mating


               
2014 Sep 16, 2:48pm   19,667 views  310 comments

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http://theweek.com/article/index/266665/the-science-of-sex-4-harsh-truths-about-dating-and-mating

Pretty much what everyone knows is true but few people will admit.

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271   Patrick   @   2026 Mar 6, 10:13pm  

Another good example of the type, from the Sexy Picture Thread:

https://patrick.net/post/1293879?start=1800787#comment-1800787
272   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   @   2026 Mar 7, 9:45am  

George Costanza has a well-documented, obsessive crush on Marisa Tomei.
273   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   @   2026 Mar 7, 1:46pm  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

George Costanza has a well-documented, obsessive crush on Marisa Tomei.

@komputodo !?
274   Booger   @   2026 Mar 7, 5:06pm  



276   floki   @   2026 Mar 8, 6:25pm  

^^^^^ LOL
277   MolotovCocktail   @   2026 Mar 9, 4:13am  


The primary goal of dating apps—and why the usual suspects (✡️) own and push them so hard—is because they:

a) Destroy women's value-perception in the dating marketplace

b) Trap the highest-value women into the infinite-attention death loop.

In the pre-digital, pre-globalized world, average women and average men would fall in love, create families, and be very happy together.

In a globalized, digitalized world, an average woman receives far more attention than she naturally would, as she now just has to post a single airbrushed picture on Tinder or Instagram and she'll have 5,000 simps from every corner of the world begging for her acknowledgement.

This artificial attention creates a false sense of high real-world value for her, so she raises her standards, and demands only top-tier men.

This doesn't work of course, because top-tier men are only interested in top-tier women. So this huge demographic of average women burn through their prime years, waiting for the perfect Prince Charming that will never come. They quickly find themselves in their 30s, childless, and without even the fake internet attention there to give her quick dopamine hits anymore.

The women who ARE very high-value, and genetically-gifted like the one below (White + blonde + A10 blue eyes = <1% of population), are arguably screwed even worse, however.

These women receive 100x the flooding of fake attention from the internet, 100x more in real life, plus they are targeted most heavily for degenerate industries like porn and OnlyFans (also controlled by the usual suspects 🧃).

To make things even worse, these women also have the highest genetic IQ, so they're shoved off to a University at the peak of their fertility prime to be pumped full of feminism propaganda, told that partying and sleeping with clueless 18 y/old boys is "liberation", and funneled into a "career" where she will spend the rest of her childbearing years making spreadsheets for a boss she hates.

The results are seen below. A woman who was brainwashed by all of the above, and thus failed in her divine mission to create life and preserve her ancestral bloodline with a good man who loves her, cherishes her, and would move mountains to build a family and legacy with her.

If you think that all of the pieces outlined above that have led millions of women down this path to depression, unfulfillment and childlessness is an accident...you don't understand how our enemies operate.


https://x.com/benwehrman/status/2030766918739870140
278   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   @   2026 Mar 9, 8:15am  

MolotovCocktail says


White + blonde + A10 blue eyes = <1% of population

Meh. Poor skin, chapped lips and that nose. Oh and old.
280   Patrick   @   2026 Mar 9, 11:01pm  

If that's a real quote, it's a classic case of "men must want in me exactly what I want in a man".

It's just so completely wrong.

Men actually want beautiful, feminine, fertile young women. Men do NOT want women who play businessman.
281   zzyzzx   @   2026 Mar 10, 7:17am  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAQKXdePlJk
She Asked Why There Are No Men at Target…
282   MolotovCocktail   @   2026 Mar 10, 8:21am  

zzyzzx says


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAQKXdePlJk
She Asked Why There Are No Men at Target…


All predicted in The Misandry Bubble written 16 years ago.

Not the Target part, but the desperation of Misandry Bubble era women.

About Target: Gotta give the bitches credit. It's better place than the dating apps.
283   HeadSet   @   2026 Mar 10, 8:57am  

zzyzzx says


She Asked Why There Are No Men at Target…

That girl looks like she may have a decent bikini body under those loose clothes, plus a decent face if she loses those dorky glasses and Miss Grundy hairstyle. Almost like an attractive girl dressed ugly to make a satire video.


284   clambo   @   2026 Mar 10, 9:27am  

I tried watching that YouTube but I can't; that guy is so fucking ugly I can't look at him.
How in the hell does an ugly troll like him even have the balls to comment about women?
He looks like a rubber hand puppet; he couldn't get laid in a whorehouse in Thailand.

The mousy nerdy girls are often the wildest fuckbunnies; "still waters run deep." So that Target girl is probably awesome.
285   floki   @   2026 Mar 10, 9:40am  

clambo says

I tried watching that YouTube but I can't; that guy is so fucking ugly I can't look at him.
How in the hell does an ugly troll like him even have the balls to comment about women?
He looks like a rubber hand puppet; he couldn't get laid in a whorehouse in Thailand.

The mousy nerdy girls are often the wildest fuckbunnies; "still waters run deep." So that Target girl is probably awesome.


Hehehe... clambo... sure the dude isn't gifted but i think there awaits a line way in the back of that soi... for him 🤪
286   Booger   @   2026 Mar 10, 4:44pm  



287   stereotomy   @   2026 Mar 13, 11:34am  

Classic Red Pill care of Chateau Heartiste:

https://heartiste.org/2010/11/09/cocktease-asks-what-am-i-doing-wrong/

Emphasis mine


So one day, Queen of the Cockteases asks me a question. She was hanging on my arm, partly drunk.

“I keep pushing men away. I find them, and go out with them, and then they disappear! Seriously, real question. What am I doing wrong?”

“I haven’t noticed any men disappearing. Didn’t some dude just buy you tickets to a play and invite you to his shore house?”

“Oh, that. Yeah, but that’s not something. I mean the guys I like.”

“Poor bastard.”

“Are you going to help me? I want so bad to be your friend. We can be good friends if you just try with me.”

“You’re a basketcase after a few Shirley Temples.” For a moment, I thought about going hardcore on her ego and edifying her with the lessons gleaned from evo psych and game, but I was tired and not in the mood to talk much. Plus, I doubted it would register. I kept it light instead. “Stop going up to men. Let them come to you.”

“Why? If I like a guy I want to meet him.”

“Yeah, that’s great, but guys like to chase. If you approach them first, they will downgrade you. We give more value to girls who play a little coy.”

“And if he doesn’t approach me?”

“Suck it up. You can’t have every man in the world. Look, most likely you are approaching the top guys, the ones you think are the best. A guy like that has options. All he sees is a chick who has just showed she really likes him, which means sex is only a few drinks away. But you’re a major cocktease, so when they realize that it isn’t happening, they bolt.”

“Hey, I’m not that kind of girl.”

“We all know that. But they don’t. If a guy comes up to you first, he’s more likely to stick around putting up with your bullshit. But then you have the problem of wanting guys to chase you, but only respecting guys who don’t. That’s why you go up to them first and flirt like crazy. If the guy approaches you, you think he’s not worthy.”

“What’s that supposed to mean?”

“It means you only get horny for guys you have to chase. You’re the classic example of a girl who wants what she can’t have.”

“That’s not true. I don’t waste my time with guys who don’t like me.”

“I can tell you really need an asshole in your life.”

Communication on the subject was done by that point. On certain matters, a woman’s brain simply can’t process in any internally logical way the implications of the discussion. Her biosocial female imperative is one of those matters. Try it some time. Explain to a girl why she behaves the way she does with men and watch as her eyes glaze over with incomprehension or she lashes out in fury at you for rattling the peace of her inner hamster sanctum. You can get girls to nod in agreement with you, as long as you don’t make them the subject of your elucidation. Girls have a habit of perceiving conversations about abstractions personally, and won’t abide finger pointing in their direction. The solution is to explain human social dynamics in terms that will spare her ego.

That's what I'm doing wrong with my wife. No, I didn't marry a cock tease, it's just: the hamster - AWALT. Every fucking time - "women" = her. She's trained in the mathematical sciences, but yet generalities are always personal attacks.
288   Patrick   @   2026 Mar 13, 11:45am  

The author of Heartiste deserves a Nobel Prize for explaining women clearly.
289   stereotomy   @   2026 Mar 13, 11:48am  

Patrick says

The author of Heartiste deserves a Nobel Prize for explaining women clearly.

There's a good clip of Mystery explaining paleolithic tells in women, like "proximity." Well worth trolling the archives, especially if you've got a young teen.
290   Glock-n-Load   @   2026 Mar 13, 11:59am  

Post some of your favorite writings from Heartiste.
291   Patrick   @   2026 Mar 13, 12:52pm  

https://heartiste.org/2009/06/21/quotes-of-the-day/

“When women claim to be seeking kindness, respect, a sense of humor, etc., they mean at most that they would like to find these qualities in the men who are already within their erotic field of view. When a man asks what women are looking for, he is trying to find out how he can get into that field of view. Women do not normally say, either because they do not know themselves or because it embarrasses them to speak about it. The advice they do give harms a lot of lonely men who mistakenly concentrate their mating effort on showing kindness and courtesy to ungrateful brats rather than working to gain the things females actually respond to.”
– ‘The feminine sexual counter-revolution and its limitations’, F. Roger Devlin

“Sexual desire is preoccupied with youth, and the progressive influx of ever-younger girls onto the field of seduction was simply a return to the norm; a restoration of the true nature of desire, comparable to the return of stock prices to their true value after a run on the exchange. Nonetheless, women who turned twenty in the late sixties found themselves in a difficult position when they hit forty. Most of them were divorced and could no longer count on the conjugal bond — whether warm or abject — whose decline they had served to hasten. As members of a generation who — more than any before — had proclaimed the superioirity of youth over age, they could hardly claim to be surprised when they, in turn, were despised by succeeding generations. As their flesh began to age, the cult of the body, which they had done so much to promote, simply filled them with an intensifying disgust with their own bodies — a disgust they could see mirrored in the gaze of others.”
– The Elementary Particles, Michel Houllebecq
293   stereotomy   @   2026 Mar 13, 2:48pm  

https://heartiste.org/2010/11/16/escaping-the-friend-zone/

The friend zone is like a huge pussy planet with a mighty gravitational pull; your escape velocity needs to be very fast to avoid getting sucked into receiving warm hugs with three pats on the back and listening to boyfriend stories not involving you.
294   HeadSet   @   2026 Mar 13, 2:52pm  

Patrick says


When a man asks what women are looking for, he is trying to find out how he can get into that field of view

When a man asks what women are looking for, he is trying to find out how he can get into her pants.

Fixed it for you.
295   clambo   @   2026 Mar 13, 10:05pm  

Prince Harry warning; another update.
Recall the physical therapist who asked me to go to breakfast with her after I was generous?
Recently our appointments were in the afternoon so at 2pm we could go to lunch before she went to her other "job" (unpaid).
I think I told the story about her suggesting a hotel after lunch.

The latest episode was at the end of the appointment I was on my back on the table and she just took off her top and bra and climbed up on me and started kissing and etc. This was another surprise in her behavior. It didn't last long because someone was at the front door so she quickly got dressed.

Now my side kick guy who rents out small swimming pools and meets young girls was texting a girl and she suggested a friend for me.
I didn't know this was going on. Anyway, I was texting the girl and she sent pictures; she had huge tattoos and I was turned off.
296   Ceffer   @   2026 Mar 13, 10:33pm  

Watch out you don't get kidnapped and held for ransom, Clambo. That has a 95 percent fatality rate in Mexico, even if the ransom is paid.
297   mell   @   2026 Mar 14, 8:55am  

Patrick says


Lots more:

https://heartiste.org/?s=quotes

Houllebecq and heartiste are a swath of wisdom for aspiring adolescents and chads.
All these shackles of modern western society mentioned aren't just out of accidental self destruction though.

They may have become so ridiculously skewed against men that reset or destruction may or may not be inevitable, but one of their main purposes is to push men harder into creating wealth for themselves and thus for society.

Without the Caucasian man we would have never reached the prosperity and productivity of today. But even a decent income isn't enough for a man as womyn, race baiters, bankers and the government constantly are trying to trip, penalize them and make their lives miserable.

Thus the capable modern man strives to make enough fuck you money far beyond what he needs for a normal living, so he can basically do whatever he wants, which is already womyns, childrens and "minorities" given prerogative. Yet the modern white man needs his checkbook for all the shit thrown at him to establish and nurture a family.

And not a small percentage of his fuck you money is forcefully distributed via taxes, divorces, alimony, child support, reparations and other bullshit, but it's working to keep the government parasites and welfare queens housed clothed and fed.

https://youtu.be/XamC7-Pt8N0?si=KypYmtIAy_bEqePd
298   mell   @   2026 Mar 14, 9:08am  

You think you're rich with 5MM in the bank? Your "soulmate" divorces you, takes half of your money, plus vaginamoney and child support, you're back to working slave middle class again.

One more misstep and your broke. Fuck you! You somehow burn the midnight oil risking your health to get to 1MM yearly salary again, here comes the state with their millionaire tax and takes 100k on top of the 40% you already pay in income taxes. Fuck you!

Choose wisely and never vote for commies or womyn (with a very few exceptions on the latter, none on the former).
299   floki   @   2026 Mar 14, 10:41am  

Mell, what's that $100k tax on top of the 40% ? That's fucked up but let me at least offer my congrats to you for having reached $5+ mil and $1+mil income !
300   mell   @   2026 Mar 14, 10:49am  

floki says

Mell, what's that $100k tax on that of the 40% ? That's fucked up but let me at least offer my congrats to you for having reached $5+ mil and $1+mil income !

Thanks not there yet, but I won't stop at 5MM for the reasons above, although if invested appropriately into cash generating assets it canbe enough.

The tax is the new Washington state tax for millionaires which is likely to pass, 10% on top of all the income tax people making 1MM and higher already pay. We live in CA, but it's possible other states will follow, so we'll move eventually.

Not working 4 jobs just to have the government take it a away. I "only" pay child support for my first one, but I know plenty of people (comes with bay area tech) who went from prosper to pauper by way of divorce and alimony.

The craziest about it is that it's all net expense after you paid taxes and you cannot deduct any of it on your tax return.
301   clambo   @   2026 Mar 14, 12:09pm  

Guys who have $5 million bucks:
1. don't keep it in a bank (lend a bank your money for nothing?)
2. don't get married without a prenup.
3. if he has $5 million before the marriage, it's not community property anyway.

Factoid: In Mexico you can be married under community property or "separate property" as you choose.
You don't even need a prenup in Mexico!
Factoid #2: In Mexico you can get married in a church and not be legally married; just pay the preacher some money.

Ain't Mexico great for men?
302   HeadSet   @   2026 Mar 14, 1:53pm  

clambo says


Ain't Mexico great for men?

Is Mexico one of those Latin nations where a husband can shoot a wife caught in bed with another man and then get aquitted?
303   HeadSet   @   2026 Mar 14, 1:56pm  

clambo says

Guys who have $5 million bucks:
1. don't keep it in a bank

Not in a savings account, but nothing wrong with some of that money in laddered CDs paying 4% or so.
304   floki   @   2026 Mar 14, 2:04pm  

clambo says

Guys who have $5 million bucks:
1. don't keep it in a bank (lend a bank your money for nothing?)
2. don't get married without a prenup.
3. if he has $5 million before the marriage, it's not community property anyway.

Factoid: In Mexico you can be married under community property or "separate property" as you choose.
You don't even need a prenup in Mexico!
Factoid #2: In Mexico you can get married in a church and not be legally married; just pay the preacher some money.

Ain't Mexico great for men?


Ahh... separated property marriage in a church for a small preacher's fees.... now that's getting a good christian girl free !!!!
305   mell   @   2026 Mar 14, 3:10pm  

clambo says

Guys who have $5 million bucks:
1. don't keep it in a bank (lend a bank your money for nothing?)
2. don't get married without a prenup.
3. if he has $5 million before the marriage, it's not community property anyway.

Factoid: In Mexico you can be married under community property or "separate property" as you choose.
You don't even need a prenup in Mexico!
Factoid #2: In Mexico you can get married in a church and not be legally married; just pay the preacher some money.

Ain't Mexico great for men?

Most guys don't have the 5MM before getting married (unless they marry really late) and then the money earned during is really hard to protect, regardless of whether there is a prenup or not.
306   ForcedTQ   @   2026 Mar 14, 8:59pm  

HeadSet says


clambo says


Guys who have $5 million bucks:
1. don't keep it in a bank

Not in a savings account, but nothing wrong with some of that money in laddered CDs paying 4% or so.


Maybe in good growth stock mutual funds? With a couple years expenses held back in CDs and checking accounts for expenses and emergency fund?
307   clambo   @   2026 Mar 14, 10:49pm  

No one needs a couple of year's expenses and definitely never buy CDs; you are lending your money to a bank for nothing in return.

After taxes and inflation CDs lose money.

If you have millions in mutual funds what in the world are you worried about an "emergency cash fund" for?

I keep at most 5 grand in my checking accounts at any given time; recently it's about 20 grand because I'm going to send it in to the US Treasury pretty soon.
309   HeadSet   @   2026 Mar 15, 3:28pm  

clambo says

After taxes and inflation CDs lose money

At 4% they are beating inflation, but not as you say, taxes and inflation. I have laddered CDs over the years to balance the stocks and real estate, just incase one sector falls. For example, my stocks are down over $100k since the Iran war started. I suspect they will fully recover, but we will see.
310   SharkyP   @   2026 Mar 15, 4:11pm  

A different view on “the friend zone”.
Yup, I’ve been there. Spent time with her and got to know her and more importantly, her girlfriends. Out for drinks, join their parties, And then most importantly fucked them all. Even had some propose to me. So adjust your expectations. Women are every bit as horny as men, and then they find themselves in competition to “land you” before their friend does.

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