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What is up with the rash of trashy posts lately?


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2014 Jul 28, 1:42am   49,900 views  161 comments

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I edited this post's original structure because this isn't a right/left thing. Rather its about the fact that an awful lot of nasty posts that are either racist, sexist, homophobic or xenophobic have been popping up on this site. The bottom line is perhaps some of those people who feel compelled to post such garbage should keep it to themselves versus polluting the internet with their mindless BS. That sort of garbage doesn't belong anywhere.

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1   The Original Bankster   2014 Jul 28, 1:43am  

'super right wing' = someone actually raising valid points about why liberalism is invalid.

2   edvard2   2014 Jul 28, 1:44am  

super right wing' = irrational, xenophobic, and out of touch with modern society.

3   edvard2   2014 Jul 28, 1:47am  

Oh- and if we're going to talk about one political leaning being invalid, well if ever there was a side that has been invalid from the get-go, why it would be the conservative movement in the US from the start. Go ahead. Look it up. While conservatives have tried to stop or slow the system each and EVERY political stance they take they have and continue to ultimately lose.

My favorite fact to point out the futility of conservatives is this: If you read this post as you did so the clock advanced - or progressed- forward. Progress is unstoppable. Get used to it.

4   zzyzzx   2014 Jul 28, 1:53am  

I could just as easily ask:
What is up with the rash of super left wing posts lately?

5   edvard2   2014 Jul 28, 1:55am  

Actually I just looked at the front page. There aren't any "Super left wing posts" at all. But there are a TON of super right wing leaning ones. Either way I did what I've always done with super right wing posters: They get put on my ignore list.

6   The Original Bankster   2014 Jul 28, 1:55am  

zzyzzx says

I could just as easily ask:

What is up with the rash of super left wing posts lately?

seriously, non stop straight up forum spam and no one says a word.

7   Tenpoundbass   2014 Jul 28, 2:45am  

You're right Edvard, got an email so I can submit my offerings and run my next post by you for approval?

8   The Original Bankster   2014 Jul 28, 2:46am  

CaptainShuddup says

You're right Edvard, got an email so I can submit my offerings and run my next post by you for approval?

i think you need to apply for a license to do that. Edvard runs this particular agency so you need to give him a call im sure he'll help you out.

9   Tenpoundbass   2014 Jul 28, 2:46am  

That sounded like a Rightwing racist didn't it?

Imagine a grown White man bitching having his right to freedom of speech. Who in the hell do they think they are?

10   smaulgld   2014 Jul 28, 2:53am  

Legislation needs to be passed to make sure we dont have any more of this
A government task force needs to be arranged
IRS will handle audits
lizzie warren will give some speeches at Berkeley
Nancy Pelosi will proof read the legislation
Michelle Obama will hire the contractors to built the web site
Itaintright.com

John kerry will work on promoting it internationally

11   Ceffer   2014 Jul 28, 2:58am  

Dangerous speech needs to be suppressed, especially if it does not meet the guidelines of the Central Planning Agency.

Kill them, Kill them All!

13   marcus   2014 Jul 28, 3:37am  

edvard2 says

Either way I find this site less and less interesting

That means you don't have enough people on ignore.

14   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2014 Jul 28, 3:40am  

If you are talking about the race thread, I'm a bit surprised at that myself.

What I found even more curious...I'm on that vacation I posted an inquiry about a few months ago and went to the Giants-Dodgers game at AT&T Park last night. My fiancé is Latina, her daughter is 1/2 Latina, 1/2 Native American. Never once have I heard a racist comment at Dodger Stadium. Closest it's come is a drunk dude had a boom box and was playing Spanish language music really loud and an old guy was grumbling about it.

However, at AT&T last night, I heard three slurs about Mexicans shouted out. I was REALLY surprised at this due to the Bay Area's very liberal reputation. Nothing worth fighting over or even causing a ruckus over, but simply surprising(and telling IMO). Now don't get me wrong, almost everyone was super nice and of course there was some good natured ribbing and banter. And we had an amazing time with great seats and the daughter getting 3 dodgers autographs.

It had been a really long time since I last heard people just blatantly tossing out racist garbage like its acceptable to do so.

15   HydroCabron   2014 Jul 28, 3:44am  

There have been some huge child pornography and prostitution busts lately.

Close an outlet and pent-up aggression becomes a problem. That brings them here to vent.

16   The Original Bankster   2014 Jul 28, 3:47am  

sbh says

Freedom's a bitch, you coward, and every anti-gay vocal ejaculation you commit is a mandatory expression of support of gay rights. You want gay people to go back to the shadow, but you get to wrap yourself n a diaper made of the confederate flag, cut your hair in a mullet, duct tape a plastic bust of Lester Maddux to your forehead and go mow your lawn when the kids get off the school bus. You're the queer.

WE WILL NOT GO BACK INTO THE SHADOWS!!!!!

http://www.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/folsom-street-fair-2013-nsfw/Slideshow?oid=2731277

17   FortWayne   2014 Jul 28, 3:54am  

What do you consider right wing?

Maybe it's your perception, because I haven't seen a single article about desire of going to war anywhere.

18   edvard2   2014 Jul 28, 5:09am  

I guess I should have re-phrased the topic. Its not necessarily the right-wing crap that bothers me. There are endless posts that go on and on about liberals and how communist they are and yadda yadda.... That I can deal with.

What to me is totally out of line is the sheer volume of nothing more than outright racist, sexist, homophobic, and xenophobic posts that have NOTHING to do with politics. It used to be maybe on occasion one person would troll away for shock value spouting off wacky crap. But now it seems like those sort of posts have become more frequent. Like where in the hell does this shit come from?

I guess in the end I see posts like those and a little bit of faith I have in humanity recedes a bit. Its really sad to think there are people who really and truly believe the poison they write.

19   Peter P   2014 Jul 28, 5:22am  

edvard2 says

I guess in the end I see posts like those and a little bit of faith I have in humanity recedes a bit.

You still have faith in humanity?

As I have said many times, everyone is a subjectivist who pretends to be objective. Our only hope is to embrace subjectivism, meta-ethically and epistemically.

20   Peter P   2014 Jul 28, 5:39am  

dodgerfanjohn says

However, at AT&T last night, I heard three slurs about Mexicans shouted out. I was REALLY surprised at this due to the Bay Area's very liberal reputation.

Most self-proclaimed "liberals" are bigots wearing the wrong uniforms.

They say they support gay rights. But when I suggest the theory that EVERYONE has some homosexual tendency, they are quick to emphasize their ABSOLUTE straightness.

(I may or may not believe in such theory, but I do like to test their reactions with words.)

21   The Original Bankster   2014 Jul 28, 5:55am  

I believe homosexuality is a (deviant) behavior, anyone is capable of it in the same way as anyone is capable of smoking crack.

22   curious2   2014 Jul 28, 6:00am  

The Original Bankster says

anyone is capable of it...

Presumably Bankster, you base your assertion on your extensive experience; after all, if you can do something, anyone can. But, if you put down your crack pipe for a minute, you might consider the definitional difference between desire and behavior. For example, your desire to continue engaging in homosexual behavior is quite natural and has no adverse consequences in itself, but if you continue frequenting highway rest stops for anonymous hookups, you might catch an STD. You might consider limiting yourself to one partner who does not have any STDs to give you; the two of you could even get married, so you can stay home instead of cruising truck stops every weekend. That possibility differs from your desire to continue smoking crack: there is no really safe way for you to continue smoking, let alone smoking crack. Bankster, I will forgive you the fact that you were born ignorant, so in that sense you were born that way, but your problem is you choose to remain ignorant, and even to attempt to spread your ignorance, and those choices you should re-consider.

23   edvard2   2014 Jul 28, 6:05am  

The Original Bankster says

I believe homosexuality is a (deviant) behavior, anyone is capable of it in the same way as anyone is capable of smoking crack.

The 14th amendment doesn't care that you think that way. So too bad, so sad because as seen what's happening now people can keep on going on and on about how they 'think' other people should live but that's not how the ball rolls in the USA so tough shit.

24   marcus   2014 Jul 28, 6:29am  

The Original Bankster says

WE WILL NOT GO BACK INTO THE SHADOWS!!!!!

http://www.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/folsom-street-fair-2013-nsfw/Slideshow?oid=2731277

Please this is so wrong.

You're forcing the other right wingers to look at these pictures. Tha't exaclty what they hate !

CaptainShuddup says

To each their own, but it is fucked up when they want to put it on display then declare mandatory viewing.

(from another thread)

And to you right wingers out there: This is mandatory viewing, but hey, you can break the rules every now and then, right?

Just don't look !! Think of it as civil disobedience !

25   FortWayne   2014 Jul 28, 7:30am  

edvard2 says

The 14th amendment doesn't care that you think that way. So too bad, so sad because as seen what's happening now people can keep on going on and on about how they 'think' other people should live but that's not how the ball rolls in the USA so tough shit.

Once this generation will wake up from all the homosexual propaganda fed to them by liberal media, and see it for what a horrible thing it is, they'll revolt and ban all the activity immediately.

26   curious2   2014 Jul 28, 7:32am  

Forthood, stop hiding your bigotry behind an avatar of Ronald Reagan, who entrusted his own home and children to a lesbian couple, and invited a gay male couple to stay at the White House.

FortWayne says

It's why I looked on internet and found patrick.net, because I had a gut feeling something was very wrong with just about everything.

And there you have it: why PatNet gets over-run by trolls. When Forthood gets frightened because he sees black people on TV, and gay couples getting married, he flees reality and pours his bitter bigotry into the intertubes via PatNet. Forthood, you might consider becoming Amish, though they don't usually troll the Internet to vent their self-loathing.

27   Tenpoundbass   2014 Jul 28, 7:56am  

Get over your selves Obama won, and only HE won.

He's living high on his winnings right now as we speak. You lost your job and insurance plan, but you gained so much more. Like time to think about it.

28   turtledove   2014 Jul 28, 8:14am  

I'm rapidly tiring of this site. It has become a ranting ground for racists, sexists, and homophobes. Anonymity isn't license to spread hate and ignorance. They remind me of people who fly cruelty under the flag of "just being honest." Real people are at the end of these avatars. It's truly appalling that there are so many posters who are ripe to blame anything that's ever gone wrong on women, minorities, and homosexuals.

I've often wondered how the Nazis got so many to go along with their holocaust against the Jews. It's hard to foment hatred where none exists. This site shows that there's quite a bit of hatred simmering below the surface waiting to be fanned. Are you just awaiting your charismatic leader?

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem limited to political affiliation. Two rabid sexists from this site, who shall remain nameless, couldn't be more opposite on the political spectrum. If likes are any indication, I got more support from our right leaning individuals in defense of women. I don't think hate cares which box you tick off on your voter registration.

29   FortWayne   2014 Jul 28, 8:19am  

turtledove says

Anonymity isn't license to spread hate and ignorance.

No one is spreading anything. You are reading too much into it. Everyone has an opinion, and we share and discuss it openly.

Disagreement should not be used to silence anyone.

I do think sometimes conversations get heated, but we should appreciate the fact that we can discuss our ideas openly. It's in the First Amendment for gods sake.

30   The Original Bankster   2014 Jul 28, 8:24am  

turtledove says

It has become a ranting ground for racists, sexists, and homophobes.

as opposed to a ranting ground for elitists, communists, homosexuals and feminists?

31   edvard2   2014 Jul 28, 8:25am  

FortWayne says

Once this generation will wake up from all the homosexual propaganda fed to them by liberal media, and see it for what a horrible thing it is, they'll revolt and ban all the activity immediately.

Apparently you must be type-sleeping. Once you wake up from the dream you seem to be having you'll wake up to reality.

Perhaps a more constructive use of time would be to focus on things that are actual problems. We've had this same conversation over and over to no avail. I guess my question to you is why do you care? What does someone else and their sexual orientation have to do with you personally? That's right... nothing. Its none of your business. So get over it.

32   edvard2   2014 Jul 28, 8:26am  

The Original Bankster says

as opposed to a ranting ground for elitists, communists, homosexuals and feminists?

Except that's not happening.

33   edvard2   2014 Jul 28, 8:46am  

NUTTERS!!!!

34   corntrollio   2014 Jul 28, 8:48am  

The Original Bankster says

turtledove says

It has become a ranting ground for racists, sexists, and homophobes.

as opposed to a ranting ground for elitists, communists, homosexuals and feminists?

Nice strawman. Where do you see that happening? Please be specific. I don't think you know what any of those terms even mean, other than in your own box.

35   corntrollio   2014 Jul 28, 8:50am  

turtledove says

I'm rapidly tiring of this site. It has become a ranting ground for racists, sexists, and homophobes. Anonymity isn't license to spread hate and ignorance. They remind me of people who fly cruelty under the flag of "just being honest." Real people are at the end of these avatars. It's truly appalling that there are so many posters who are ripe to blame anything that's ever gone wrong on women, minorities, and homosexuals.

Yes, I've been spending less and less time here as time goes on. I mostly avoid the Miscellaneous forum and all of its cranks, but I still try to read the Real Estate and Economics forums occasionally (although the latter doesn't really seem to have very many intelligent posts lately).

The issue isn't that these people are right wing. It's that they're STUPID right wing people. Most of these folks that we're talking about aren't particularly intelligent and don't really make coherent arguments based on facts -- pretty much a waste of time. If the signal to noise ratio continues to worsen, it won't bode well for the health of the site. There are plenty of intelligent people on that side of the spectrum and many that espouse well-support views, but very few of them post here.

It's entirely possible that these unintelligent people see everything as left wing here because the typical left wing argument on Patnet is better supported. Usually when people submit opinions into a forum where they are viciously attacked by people who disagree with them, they raise their game. As such, the typical left wing argument here tends to be of higher caliber because it is assumed that such an argument will be viciously attacked by morons.

I don't really give a fuck about all the "this is liberal" "this is conservative" "liberals do this" "conservatives do that" crap, and would rather just see good arguments, no matter where they come from.

36   FortWayne   2014 Jul 28, 8:50am  

edvard2 says

Perhaps a more constructive use of time would be to focus on things that are actual problems.

I'm not the one who brought it up, this is just a response to something you started. But it is funny that you start this conversation and then complain that responses are not in agreement.

37   dublin hillz   2014 Jul 28, 8:53am  

turtledove says

I've often wondered how the Nazis got so many to go along with their holocaust
against the Jews.

People always need a scapegoat for their problems. Rather than take a look in the mirror for their issues, they blame women, unions, jews, latinos, etc.

38   edvard2   2014 Jul 28, 8:53am  

FortWayne says

I'm not the one who brought it up, this is just a response to something you started. But it is funny that you start this conversation and then complain that responses are not in agreement.

I was responding to your inappropriate response and as I recall, I also asked you a question of which most of us here are curious to know.

39   corntrollio   2014 Jul 28, 8:56am  

dublin hillz says

People always need a scapegoat for their problems. Rather than take a look in the mirror for their issues, they blame women, unions, jews, latinos, etc.

Yeha, you have to remember that these are "dey tuk arrr jubs" types. Also, most of them probably don't pay very much (if at all) in federal income tax, but seem to think they do.

40   mell   2014 Jul 28, 9:03am  

turtledove says

Are you just awaiting your charismatic leader?

We already had G.W. Bush and B. Obama - how much more charismatic can they get?turtledove says

I've often wondered how the Nazis got so many to go along with their holocaust against the Jews.

turtledove says

If likes are any indication, I got more support from our right leaning individuals in defense of women. I don't think hate cares which box you tick off on your voter registration.

You don't have to respond to or discuss insults, it's totally up to you. However if one states that they deem certain laws unfair or discriminatory and you call them "hater", "mysoginist", "racist", "sexist" or anything personal in response to that, then they are the Jew and you are the Nazi in the example given by you. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. Now who's the shepherd?

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