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By CL follow CL   2013 Mar 22, 4:31am 4,172 views   26 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share      


I got a ticket today that says I was parked at 8:30 but I wasn't here yet.

I have:

An eyewitness at the parking lot across from where I was ticketed.

Fastrak transponder recording saying I was on the bridge around that time

And my company security footage showing me arriving after that (including street footage).

What's the best way to punish the bastards?

1   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2013 Mar 22, 4:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I have gotten tickets before and put them other cars wiper blades, so they would think it was for them and pay it.

Or if I'm arriving and the car next to me has a ticket. I'll grab their ticket and put it on my car, so the meeter maid, thinks I already got ticketed.

2   CL   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 6:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's definitely my car. Of course, when they ticket they look at and write down the vin and plate.

But they clearly did NOT write it down when they supposedly checked it. Now I have the resources to bring down that cabal.

But how?

3   ducsingle5313   ignore (1)   2013 Mar 22, 6:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CaptainShuddup says

I have gotten tickets before and put them other cars wiper blades, so they would think it was for them and pay it.

Or if I'm arriving and the car next to me has a ticket. I'll grab their ticket and put it on my car, so the meeter maid, thinks I already got ticketed.

You're quite the scumbag.

4   CL   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 6:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SFace says

If it is limit and I suspect it is, just contest it and bring your fastrak statement, highlight it and you will win. Hell, I'll mail the fastrak payment (highlight it) along with the appeals letter with the citation #.

There is nothing to "escalate" A meter maid checks as much as 500-1000 cars in the two hours route and it can very well be an honest mistake.

Yeah. O/T parking.

But (I'm no stranger to their ways, either) how can it be an honest mistake, when they are claiming to have marked the vehicle as being there in the first place?

How do they "honestly" mark a vehicle as there when it is not? Aren't these policies firm?

I really don't care about the $72, but I do think they should be held accountable for betraying their trust. What if it were a poor person scammed like this?

If a guy who has this many data points can't bring justice, who can?

I'm calling 7 on your side, or Stanley Roberts!

5   CL   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 6:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Oh, and a co-worker just had the same issue with the same officer.

6   CL   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 6:45am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SFace says

I dunno what to say. Instead of trying move the car every two hours, gulp, pay $15-$25 to park (non-covered).

It's $20!! :) And I hear ya, but that's the thing. I wasn't here when they said I was, so it's unpossible!

I can pay it and forget it, but it seems like rewarding incompetence at the least, or criminal behavior at worst. I wonder how many on the street shrug it off?

Should I let it go unchallenged? If not me, who? If not now, when?!?!?!

7   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2013 Mar 22, 7:01am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ducsingle5313 says

You're quite the scumbag.

I do what I can...

8   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 7:25am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

don't let this go. sometimes you can't help but take it personally.

do everything you can to bring this corrupted individual to justice.

9   CL   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 7:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

IDDQD says

Of course not. Always fight this stuff. Just don't set your expectations too high: the maximum you'll get is your money back.

Thanks for that. I really, really, really want to get satisfaction here. I'm sure I'm setting myself up for disappointment. I want someone to get suspended or fired.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

Call the local consumer advocate reporter at all of the TV stations and tell them what you have - primary documentation proving the ticket is bogus and that the city is trying to collect illegally and with knowledge of its malfeasance.

I'm with you on the first part. Look for me on "People Behaving Badly!!"

10   CL   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 7:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Mark D says

don't let this go. sometimes you can't help but take it personally.

do everything you can to bring this corrupted individual to justice.

Yes!! I'm going to!

11   someone else   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 7:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I once got a ticket for not turning my wheels toward the curb when parked on a flat street in SF. Turns out the street was at a barely perceptible 3% grade.

I promised I will never drive to SF again, and so far pretty much held to that. I take Caltrain or BART.

12   CL   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 8:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        


I once got a ticket for not turning my wheels toward the curb when parked on a flat street in SF. Turns out the street was at a barely perceptible 3% grade.

Yep. They do that. That's why I said I'm no stranger to their ways. In Chicago I was the pro at all forms of parking, given their seemingly contradictory signs on any given block (no parking from September through November for sweeping, but no parking from November through April for snow removal, etc).

This is riotous brigandage.

13   upisdown   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 8:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CL says

Yeah. O/T parking.

CL says

It's $20!! :) And I hear ya, but that's the thing. I wasn't here when they
said I was, so it's unpossible!

Well apparently you weren't there when they thought you had been, as in a continuous rotation in a given area. Was it a meter or a marked or posted parking spot for X amount of time(hours)?

Are they using tire marks, or plate-reading technology, because they have to have some way of starting your time if it's a marked time period spot.

14   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 8:48am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If you are absolutely sure of your evidence, then as AS suggested, TV stations are the best to go. Else at the most they will let you not pay and even that is such a pain with them. Perhaps a lazy meter maid hoping to fill his quota for the day and not willing to do the real work.

Nowadays they don't even hide behind safety and openly raise parking or speeding fines and openly discuss how much revenue it is going to bring.

15   CL   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 9:00am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

upisdown says

Well apparently you weren't there when they thought you had been, as in a continuous rotation in a given area. Was it a meter or a marked or posted parking spot for X amount of time(hours)?

Are they using tire marks, or plate-reading technology, because they have to have some way of starting your time if it's a marked time period spot.

Historically they had a few ways of determining you were there. They used to chalk your tires (which I haven't seen them do much near me lately), or they "record" your plates. For that, I think they migrated from pen and paper to some electronic device akin to the Fedex and UPS shipping readers. For those, they are entering your plate and then after the allotted time, come back and see if you are anywhere on the same block. If so, you get a ticket.

My ticket shows they recorded me at 8:30, and ticketed at 9:45 for one hour parking overtime. Street parking, no meter.

Problem was I hadn't left my house yet, crossed the bridge at 8:52, and parked on the street at 9:05. Ticketed 40 minutes later.

So, how can I have been heading westbound on the Bay Bridge 20 minutes after they recorded me?

There is no honest way they can mistake a car as having been there.

Reminds me a bit of the City Tow corruption a while back.

16   upisdown   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 9:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CL says

My ticket shows they recorded me at 8:30, and ticketed at 9:45 for one hour
parking overtime. Street parking, no meter.

Part of the reason to use the plate-reading technology is to be able to prove their violation, along with on-the-go type of technology so as to be able to cover more area, or park to conserve gas.
A big kicker is the lost time off from work to fight a ticket, and most places price the ticket amounts to deal with that issue so they're never contested.
it reminds me of the airport scanners and how the government claimed it counldn't record any images. yhen why do it then, and where would the proof be for prosecution?

Make them prove it by showing the initial entry into their system of your plate, along with your other electronic proof. You're lucky, because some munincipalities will tow the vehicle in a very short time afterwards(happened to me while out of town for work, and all towing storage is "indoors").
The majority don't contest the tickets, and most parking tickets that I've got over the years only give you like 5-7 days to pay it or the ticket doubles.

17   thomaswong.1986   ignore (5)   2013 Mar 22, 9:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

software error reading your plates .. welcome to the modern era.

18   CL   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 22, 11:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

thomaswong.1986 says

software error reading your plates .. welcome to the modern era.

You mean that that's what they would claim? I don't follow, because if they both depend on the accuracy of their systems how could I be in both places at once?

upisdown says

A big kicker is the lost time off from work to fight a ticket, and most places price the ticket amounts to deal with that issue so they're never contested.

I'm motivated this time. I've let them go before, but got some added penalty when I paid late.

upisdown says

Make them prove it by showing the initial entry into their system of your plate, along with your other electronic proof. You're lucky, because some munincipalities will tow the vehicle in a very short time afterwards(happened to me while out of town for work, and all towing storage is "indoors").

The majority don't contest the tickets, and most parking tickets that I've got over the years only give you like 5-7 days to pay it or the ticket doubles.

They're pretty flexible for street parking. They don't even usually ticket twice if you don't move. They would catch the Captain's trick though. They flip the ticket up to see if you're on the same block and when you were cited.

19   swebb   ignore (2)   2013 Mar 22, 11:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CaptainShuddup says

I have gotten tickets before and put them other cars wiper blades, so they would think it was for them and pay it.

Wow, really?

That's pretty shitty in my book.

20   Shaman   ignore (2)   2013 Mar 22, 1:10pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sounds like it's time for armed revolution! Or maybe consider a bike commute?

21   thomaswong.1986   ignore (5)   2013 Mar 22, 1:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CL says

You mean that that's what they would claim? I don't follow, because if they both depend on the accuracy of their systems how could I be in both places at once?

Bugs in the system...

thats why firms and govt entities that buy tech equipment (hardware and software) also pay annual maintenance (additional +18% of total HW/SW costs) for "unspecified upgrades".... like so many SW companies... includes new features and "fixes" to current released products ... so you ask them.. fixes for what, defects in your product ?... well yes!

good thing Govt are NOT handing out Biotech drugs which might kill you ...

22   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2013 Mar 22, 1:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

swebb says

Wow, really?

That's pretty shitty in my book.

Only if you pay tickets with out reading them.
That's the point of the OPs original post.
There are hundreds of reasons to get erroneous tickets.
So read them before you pay.

23   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2013 Mar 23, 3:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

Burn SF City Hall to the ground. Any jury would burst into applause.

Obligatory:

24   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2013 Mar 23, 3:16am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        


I once got a ticket for not turning my wheels toward the curb when parked on a flat street in SF. Turns out the street was at a barely perceptible 3% grade.

I promised I will never drive to SF again, and so far pretty much held to that. I take Caltrain or BART.

Or park in a parking lot. Having said that when I went to SF, I did not take a car downtown (used public transportation and my bicycle)

25   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2013 Mar 23, 3:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

upisdown says

Part of the reason to use the plate-reading technology is to be able to prove their violation, along with on-the-go type of technology so as to be able to cover more area,

Obligatory Parking Wars reference. At least they verify the VIN before they boot the car.

26   upisdown   ignore (0)   2013 Mar 24, 12:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CL says

They're pretty flexible for street parking. They don't even usually ticket
twice if you don't move. They would catch the Captain's trick though. They flip
the ticket up to see if you're on the same block and when you were cited.

I was in a meeting when the meter ran out and got a ticket, then another because they must have come by right after to see if I moved the car, with no time on the second ticket. Upon the second ticket, they called the tow truck. When I called the city trying to find my car, some pissy employee gave me a list of the towing companies to call to find it. About 2 hours later, I was able to track it down and pay for the raping of my wallet to get it back. The next time that I was there one of the employees of the company told me to turn the front wheels toward the street so that a tow truck couldn't tow it. I got a ticket for that then. My out-of-state plates probably had a lot to do with the tickets too, as they knew that I probably couldn't and wouldn't fight it. In a different city in the same state, I did fight a parking ticket and ended up paying court costs that was $2 more than the ticket with a late charge. And I got the wonderful priveledge of waiting for a couple of hours to go before some low-level moron of a judge to get that.


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