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What a difference 50 years can make!


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2012 Jul 4, 2:24pm   9,527 views  23 comments

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Fifty years ago the media, screen-writers, the larger society instinctively supported a belief in God and a reverence for the Judeo/Christian scriptures and viewed atheists as the ignorant and tyrannical. The sentiments have completely reversed today within those same institutions.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/YYGi2GfwRlo

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1   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2012 Jul 5, 5:02am  

Perhaps God killed all of the atheist scientist that built the Pyramids with the Great Flood.

"It's nice to be important, but it's important to be nice..."

2   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2012 Jul 5, 5:10am  

Will these guys open a church already?

3   freak80   2012 Jul 5, 6:23am  

Christianity in America died in the 1920's when it was replaced with Protestant Liberalism.

See "Christianity and Liberalism" by J. Gresham Machen.

There really was never a "golden age" of Christianity in America. America just got all of the wackos from the Radical Reformation in Europe. That's how we got revivalism and pentacostalism, which led directly to Mormonism. After all, if one has a "direct hotline" to God, why not just start a whole new religion like Mormonism?

4   freak80   2012 Jul 6, 3:27am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

I thought we got revivalism from the Scots

The Scots were mainly Presbyterians/Calvinists I thought...

Or maybe I'm thinking of the "Scots Irish."

5   freak80   2012 Jul 6, 3:31am  

Revivalism/Pentacostalism can be traced to these wackos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwickau_prophets

We still have people doing this in modern times. Like Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, and George W. Bush.

I wonder how many of today's atheists grew up in such an environment.

6   freak80   2012 Jul 8, 8:02am  

Wow. Calvinist revivalists. Who knew?

Thanks for the link.

7   Dan8267   2012 Jul 8, 2:02pm  

P N Dr Lo R says

Fifty years ago the media, screen-writers, the larger society instinctively supported a belief in God and a reverence for the Judeo/Christian scriptures and viewed atheists as the ignorant and tyrannical. The sentiments have completely reversed today within those same institutions.

50 years ago, America was fighting the cold war against the Soviet Union, which happen to be atheistic. The federal government forced Hollywood to blacklist various actors on suspension that they were communist, atheist, or gay.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/person-week-kirk-douglas-16683245

http://www.amazon.com/Am-Spartacus-Breaking-Blacklist-ebook/dp/B0083JBWTI

It was the worst time in Hollywood.

- Kirk Douglas

What happened was that Hollywood finally got out of the dark ages and all the superstitions and bigotry of the dark ages.

8   lostand confused   2012 Jul 8, 3:04pm  

It depends. There are still creation "museums" across the country-including San Diego- that claim the 5,000 year old creation myth to be scientifically valid. These same folks have no qualms using science -elevators, planes, cars, electricity etc.

Now the Amish I respect-they chose to live their beleifs and do not try and impose it on everyonelse. The rest have descended into a hypocritical mess-then wonder why people find them laughable.

9   freak80   2012 Jul 8, 4:28pm  

lostand confused says

These same folks have no qualms using science -elevators, planes, cars, electricity etc.

To be fair, there's a difference between the science of figuring out the past and the engineering of elevators, planes, cars, electricity, etc.

But yeah, the YECs are crackpots.

10   freak80   2012 Jul 8, 4:29pm  

To the OP: that video looks like Dan8267's dream world. Maybe when he completes his mind control device, the rest of us will have no choice but to think in the manner he requires.

11   lostand confused   2012 Jul 8, 9:10pm  

wthrfrk80 says

lostand confused says



These same folks have no qualms using science -elevators, planes, cars, electricity etc.


To be fair, there's a difference between the science of figuring out the past and the engineering of elevators, planes, cars, electricity, etc.


But yeah, the YECs are crackpots.

It is science and is peer reviewd and the methodology is known to anyone who cares. These folks approach create museums based on a book of fairy tales-er literal word of God. That is the problem, faith is an individual process. These folks are trying to fit every modern fact/issue into this book written two millenia ago-when people were riding donkeys. Then they have the gall to call it science. No wonder the dominant party in TX wants to outlaw critical thinking. You need brainwashed amsses for this to work. Can't be having scientific critiques.

12   freak80   2012 Jul 9, 2:23am  

lostand confused says

These folks are trying to fit every modern fact/issue into this book written two millenia ago-when people were riding donkeys.

Care to elaborate?

13   Honest Abe   2012 Jul 9, 3:19am  

Thank god I'm an atheist.

14   Dan8267   2012 Jul 9, 12:44pm  

wthrfrk80 says

To the OP: that video looks like Dan8267's dream world. Maybe when he completes his mind control device, the rest of us will have no choice but to think in the manner he requires.

Boy, you really don't understand my philosophies at all. I would have thought it was evident from my postings that I believe:

1. All tyranny is bad.
2. Human and civil rights are paramount.
3. Thinking is good.
4. Faith is bad.
5. Everything worth believing in can stand up to questioning and rational debate.
6. Transparency and accountability is essential in government.
7. The power of government should be minimized as much as possible allowing only for government to protect rights.
8. There should be no such things as thought crimes or victimless crimes.

So, I'm much more like the librarian, except I don't believe in false gods. As there are no true gods, ergo, I don't believe in any gods.

15   Dan8267   2012 Jul 9, 12:45pm  

Honest Abe says

Thank god I'm an atheist.

You're welcome.

16   freak80   2012 Jul 9, 2:43pm  

To the OP:

I wonder how much of the change is due to demise of the Soviet Union and the rise of Islamic terrorism.

50 years ago, our enemies were "godless communists", now our enemies are "religious fanatics."

17   Dan8267   2012 Jul 10, 12:56pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

Cannibalism is a sacrament!

It sure is. It's called the Eucharist.

Eat of my flesh said zombie Jesus.

18   Randy H   2012 Jul 10, 1:31pm  

Rod Serling wasn't a christian, btw. He was a secular humanist and publicly defended a number of his atheist contemporary writers and directors. Much of his social commentary was against statist technocracies and hypocritical systems of ethics.

19   Peter P   2012 Jul 10, 2:56pm  

Randy H says

...statist technocracies and hypocritical systems of ethics...

Sounds like a certain continent with one currency but many political systems...

God and religion are as different as science and religion. Sure, one can appear in the other, but they are not the same thing.

20   Randy H   2012 Jul 10, 2:59pm  

Peter !

21   Peter P   2012 Jul 10, 3:44pm  

Yep I am back. :)

22   NDrLoR   2012 Jul 12, 2:12am  

wthrfrk80 says

To the OP:

I wonder how much of the change is due to demise of the Soviet Union and the rise of Islamic terrorism.

50 years ago, our enemies were "godless communists", now our enemies are "religious fanatics."

I think that's true. For our parents and grandparents, the two tyrannies of their world were Nazism, hatred based on race and Communism, hatred based on class. Nazism was pretty well finished in the second world war, Communism took another 30 years. Islam, tyranny based on religious hatred, just like Communism and Nazism, is focused on world domination which could be accomplished if it weren't for those pesky Americans. The difference in Islam and the other two tyrannies is that Muslims are willing to die for their beliefs and take others with them whereas as bad as Nazism and Communism were, their adherents weren't willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for their beliefs.

23   freak80   2012 Jul 12, 3:35am  

Yep. So now it's "religion" that is the "Source of All of the Worlds' Problems" (tm), so it must be eliminated by any means necessary.

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