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a New New Deal Coalition?


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2012 Feb 17, 12:52am   1,502 views  6 comments

by freak80   ➕follow (1)   💰tip   ignore  

As we all know, we Americans are bitterly divided on cultural issues. It's almost like we are two nations. One side sees the universe as a purposeful creation of God with humans as God's special creation...and all of life meant to fullfill that purpose. The other side sees life essentially as a cosmic accident, with the "meaning of life" directly tied to the fullfillment of all personal ambitions and desires.

And it's these cultural differences that have defined our national politics since the late 1960s.

Now, during the Second Great Depression, we realize that economic issues are becoming more and more important. Like huge disparities in wealth and power. And bankers and special interests running our government.

Is it at all possible to put the enormous cultural issues on the back burner, at least temporarily? Can the majority of us who are ruled by the top 0.01% reign in some of the political and financial power of the top 0.01%?

I'm not all that optimistic. But maybe if we talk we can achieve something.

Thoughts?

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1   Patrick   2012 Feb 17, 1:06am  

If Jesus may come at any minute, then the unfairness making the middle class and the poor give their money to the rich doesn't matter. So fundamentalist Christianity has a bad effect on society in that way. "Faith" also helps practice the supression of critical thought. Makes it a virtue to stop thinking and stop asking questions!

But nonetheless, I think there is an old populist strain of thought in the US that could be revived. There is some intersection between the anger of the Tea Party and the anger of OWS.

Maybe it just has to be clearly defined. Though there are highly paid PR firms that know psychology very well, and work incessantly to divide and rule. There were reports of how they were paid to spin OWS in the media as lazy, smelly, irresponsible indebted hippies, and it worked. Some of that spin stuck, and helped discredit OWS.

2   freak80   2012 Feb 17, 1:53am  

I don't want to debate the pros/cons of either "culture." That's been vigorously debated in other threads.

I just want people to wake up and realize that we're returning to a de-facto aristocracy/plutocracy. Abortion and gay marriage aren't going to matter much if we're all slaves toiling for the benefit of a permanent ruling class.

Thank you for all of your efforts in waking me up to this issue!

I first stumbled on Patrick.net during the housing crash and bailouts. That's when I realized something was fundamentally wrong with the country.

3   Patrick   2012 Feb 17, 2:59am  

You're right, I was immediately getting sucked in to the differences.

OK, what we need is a common vision of the future, one where we're not merely slaves to the plutocracy.

But how do you define a vision like that?

I like Germany as an economic and social model, but just saying "Germany" is not very inspiring.

4   freak80   2012 Feb 17, 3:14am  

That's a good question. I suppose trying to find common ground...any common ground between the "two sides."

5   freak80   2012 Feb 17, 3:15am  

Maybe this cartoon illustrates some common ground?

6   freak80   2012 Feb 17, 3:20am  

And this one:

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