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  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 15, 1:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

That's regardless all the credible studies saying that the "armed heroic defense" is pretty much a myth.)

Do we really need a study? If the Armed Defenders were ever going to do anything, wouldn’t it have happened at least once by now?

All this gun shit has happened right alongside the militarization of police and the criminalization of the populace. More of the same will net us more of the same results
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 15, 1:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I posted this in your SHOP thread a few days ago when it happened
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 16, 6:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

cynn says
After Sandy Hook, I read someone's argument that we need to start publishing crime scene photos, autopsy photos, etc. of these mutilated children and bloody people. Like aborted fetus pics, I suppose. Somehow, I don't think that would stir many of the NRA cultists.


I’m sure it would get them hard as a rock and they’d give it a nice cumtribute

Gun nuts live for shit like the Florida school shooting because that’s what the 2A is all about!
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 16, 6:09am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says
Patrick says
It's pretty funny that a gay man feels he has to leave San Francisco because it is so intolerant.


It tells me the extreme left is just as fanatical as the extreme right.
It's the extremists on either end that cause most of the problems for the rest of us.


It’s not really on either end though

The people on the right, not just the extremists, always put their childish religion first, and our country second. They’re the biggest voting bloc, so this effects all of us adversely, bigly. To the point it could destroy our republic.

The extremists on the left are green haired dykes and twig soy boys looking like Shaggy from scooby doo armed with a stick. They protest fascism and white privile, which offends people who enjoy their privileges and irritates simpletons who have been programmed to support fascism and fight against liberalism as if it’s a bad thing. As if Liberty isn’t the heart and soul of America.

So while the freaks and weirdos may be an annoyance to the Christian Republicans, they are harmless compared to the right who constantly support things that harm everyone because that’s what the billionaires have programmed them to think.
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 16, 6:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

mell says
The problem has nothing to do with either party. MJ use is generally deemed safe, however SSRIs evoke homicidal and suicidal thoughts. Nobody on SSRis or derivatives should be allowed to purchase a gun. Their choice.


MJ use is generally deemed safe, yes, but how on Earth can you honestly try and say “the problem has nothing to do with either party” when it’s fucking Republicans and their mental midget approach to governance where they must first ask Allah what he thinks? Come the fuck on

Did you even read the article?
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 16, 8:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_58661 says
Why not just put every American in prison when they're born?


Did the GOP really reveal the 2020 campaign slogan already?

I was just warming up to Hope and Change oops I mean MAGA GOOGOO GAGA
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 17, 7:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Malcolm says
My girlfriend just said something to me that I found interesting. For some reason school shootings seem common now. I think a lot of it is some bad kids glamorized Columbine and now it has started a string of imitations, but that is not the point.

Remember the saying, “He went postal?.” It seems like decades since that happened. An interesting social question is why? Is life easier now as a postal employee? What social phenomenon has made post offices safer and schools more dangerous?


The “social phenomenon” is Republicans voters doing the bidding of their billionaires masters to destroy our social bonds and destroy the government that helped keep this country together
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 17, 7:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

The NRA has released their marketing schematics

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun, so buy more guns today!

There’s nothing safer then arming a society made up of the same kind of halfwits that fill the pews on Sundays, in hopes of destroying our once great Republic
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 17, 7:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
The FBI is incompetent. Warned weeks ago by a tip from somebody who found the kids' videos, looked into it, decided it was a threat, failed to notify local authorities or do any thing else.

Remember the FBI team that was sleeping when the Jihadi they were tracking went to the airport and left the country as they snoozed in their stake-out car?


So which LEO are competent?

Once the Keep Brown Niggers South Wall is constructed, why would anyone think those who are tasked to man the wall will be more competent than the FBI types?
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 17, 8:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Tenpoundbass says
bob2356 says

Maybe people should enlighten themselves as to what socialism means


No I don't need to be Libsplained on 1billon dead people and counting.

My kind loses out in Socialist societies, I end up in the mass graves. I'll go down fighting when we turn Socialist.
I don't know what you Utopia you think you have planned, but no it wont be warm and fuzzie it will be the violent hell on earth it always is. I'm talking some bitches with me before I go down though.

Perhaps it is you that should educate yourself on Socialism.

None of this matters, Trump is saving us from any of this so don't worry we're all safe for now.


Please don’t do anything drastic
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 18, 4:05am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Trump 2020 SUCK MY DICK AMERICA! IN A PUDDLE OF BLOOD AND CHILDREN PULP!

BUY ANOTHER GUN! MAGA GOOGOO GAGA!!

And the Christian Republicans erupt in applause like any good fanboy with daddy issues should.

Save us, Daddy! Save us from the KENYAN NUBIAN PRINCE!!!
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 18, 4:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

FortWayne says
CajunSteve says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Dumbassery on so many levels.


This is dumbassery Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

Yes, we can spend a zillion dollars and put armed guards at every entrance and exit 24 hours a day, or we can simply make it impossible for mentally deranged kids to get assault weapons.


Mentally ill can't get guns already in many states. The bigger problem is the ban of Christianity in schools, you ban god, you leave it up to the children to figure out their own morality, and they don't all turn into angels like liberal media movies thinks they do.

I 100% blame all of this on liberals, they've banned moral way of life, and this is consequences.


Yup the Founding Fathers hated America when they banned religion from government.

The Christians have been doing Gods Work by shitting on thr Constitution in the biggest SJW hissy fit in all of history, in order to restore sanity by sending gangs of unionized armed simpletons into the homes of innocent Americans to shoot them all dead if there was any chance they might have been medicating with Cannabis.

It’s not as if the Christian Republican Failed War on Drugs hasn’t wasted important LEO time where they could be working with communities to solve actual crimes, rather than working for Big Pharma to secure their profits
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 18, 5:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

bob2356 says
Patrick says
I do believe Trump is at least trying to do the right thing. Maybe most other Republicans are cynically pretending to help US workers while actually selling them out, but so far I still think Trump is on the side of the American people.


What are the right things for the American people trump has done exactly? List them.


He helped the people with Obama Delusion Syndrome carry on about Kenya for 5 years

And GORSUCK!

He is bringing back God and Christianity too.

Winning MAGA googoo gaga!!

Kek kek kek kek
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 18, 5:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

* The media and the rest of the top 20% are pushing a narrative which is obviously false to the bottom 80%. Example: "Globalization is wonderful" while 100 million people are unemployed or under-employed in the US as a direct result of globalization.


100 million are unemployed as a direct result of Globalization lulz

And here i thought it was mostly just uneducated dipshits with nothing to offer the labor pool aside from standing around watching a machine operate, were displaced by technology. Rather than retraining and innovating, they turn to Christianity, Republicans and meth and opiates.
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 18, 10:43am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
One could also say he was complimenting and cheering on the hospital staff.


For what reason? What did they do other than their jobs?
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 18, 10:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

LeonDurham says
Patrick says
Nothing he does will ever be enough for his haters.


And the same is true for his followers.

Like he said--he could murder someone on 5th Ave. and the vast majority of his supporters would blame the victim.




“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,” he said.

Why does the President feel the need to rub it in their faces? Do cucks like it? If i had millions of loyal followers willing to never question anything i do and always offer support, I don’t think I’d rub it in their faces
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 18, 11:41am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Unfortunately, the key to cults, especially ones that seem to be self-organizing is the degree to which a cult leader taps into cultist's innate sense of worthlessness.

YOU COULD SHOOT ME IN MY FACE AND OBAMA WAS STILL BORN IN KENYA!!
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 4:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

mell says
Strategist says
mell says
Why? This is the nuclear family unit. I surely hope the left is defeated. Doesn't mean I go to church every Sunday but I have no problem with the nuclear family. It's essential for the well being of any country.


Here's what I mean. Churches should be built and paid for by those who want to use it. Why make everyone pay for them through tax write offs?


Sure those write offs are debatable. However Christian church has done more good than bad hands down for society.


Lolololol maga googoo gaga!!
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 8:08am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

How can we as a Nation, regain our desire for Truth, and bring back Free Speech?
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 8:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

BayArea says
Should anti-depressant prescription disqualify you from gun ownership?


Probably. One thing is for certain, alcohol possession a/o consumption should definitely disqualify anyone from purchasing/possessing/owning a gun(s).

We should also revisit Alcohol Prohibition
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 8:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
We need more TEACHERS! Thousands of them at $50k+/year!
We need to double spending in our SCHOOLS! Nothing too good for our Kids!
Increase the pensions! Increase the training budget! We need more Admins of Welcoming Diversity! Fund our schools, Evil Republicans!

"How about a security guard at the entrance?"

NOOOOO! That would cost ZILLIONS! Just add extra layers of bureaucracy to buy a gun, or better yet, Ban Semi-Auto Rifles!


I for one don’t thing a Security Guard is going to deter, let alone stop these types of mass murders from happening.

I have a much better, simpler, cost effective solution.

Raze all the schools in this country, sell the School Buses off to foreign countries, and make Public Education something we do from home on our Government Internet.

Game.Set.Match

Fin
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 8:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Onvacation says
errc says
How can we as a Nation, regain our desire for Truth, and bring back Free Speech?

Drain the swamp and muzzle the sjw's.


By Drain the Swamp, do you mean to vote out every Republican in office?

By muzzle the sjw’s, do you mean to remove the Christians from our Government (separation of church and state) because they keep ruining our country by putting their childish fairytales religious nonsense before our Country and Constitution?
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 8:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

RC2006 says
Break up the media conglomerates, the press which is suppose to protect us but is now concentrated into just a few corporations and has lost most of its independence.
Extremism has to large of a voice on social media, I don’t think anything can be done about this without one side taking advantage.


Who even consumes that Media anymore? I certainly don’t, and can’t understand why anyone would.

It’s very simple to eliminate the media from your existence, just turn off the tv and the am junk radio trash.

The problem seems to be more in The Church and The Government. They’re both ensconced in right wing lies and propaganda, it’s next to impossible to bring back those who have entrapped themselves in its tentacles. This is where Free Speech can be used to save our country . The main problem is these people’s disdain for the truth
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 9:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
errc says
I for one don’t thing a Security Guard is going to deter, let alone stop these types of mass murders from happening.


Do we see as many mass shootings at sports arenas, concerts, political rallys, airports, police stations, government buildings, etc.

Why have these mass shootings been at schools, churches, theaters, nightclubs and malls?


Presumably because they’re being committed by children/students, and the schools are the institutions they most commonly attend
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 9:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
errc says
Presumably because they’re being committed by children/students, and the schools are the institutions they most commonly attend


Wrong answer, as all the mass shootings were committed by adults, since children can't purchase firearms.


All the school shootings were committed by adults?

That seems to be at odds with reality, because in reality, almost every single school shooting was carried out by children.

Outside of the lone instance that happened in my town, where a right wing Christian gun nut retard murdered the Amish kids at their small school in Gap, PA.

But I guess that was the liberals fault for not having armed militia surrounding the one room school house in Amish Country
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 10:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

jazz_music says
Psychotropic prescription industry is closer to a thing that can be identified as a cause than availability of guns.

Guns make it worse, so could bombs too.

Bombs can be made from things very hard to control. If you control guns you might start seeing more bombings.


SSRI’s and over prescription are a symptom, not the cause.

The problem there is malnutrition, which our anti-science right wing government has thrusted upon the unquestioning for decades. Beginning Prohibition of Hemp/Cannabis ~ a century ago (humans have always survived alongside the plants they live amongst as medicine. The Endocannabinoid system is proof that humans have evolved to use Cannabis as medicine). The Food Pyramid doubled down on the movement to profit and thrive from keeping Americans sick and stupid (ten + servings of breads and cereals per day! Wtf!!) War on Drugs alongside a thriving Big Pharma exasperated these problems. People don’t even own their bodies anymore, the Right Wing Christian Government has worked hard to keep them Sick and Stupid because they make for easy votes as sheeple.

The concept of taking a pill to remedy whatever illness one has been marketed and drowned in advertisements to believe they need, is at the heart of this issue. Are Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors dangerous and unhealthy? Quite possibly, even likely, but which pill sold by American Pharmaceutical Corps isn’t?

It’s the attitude that you can somehow not understand how your body works, how to properly fuel it, and just limp in to the doc when you break down that is so pervasive these days, that is causing people not to be well.

It’s no coincidence that Healthcare costs have spiraled out of control, at the same time that Science has illustrated all the health and wellness benefits of a proper diet, and The vast utility of the Magical Cannabis plant and it’s flowers. Them damn Liberals keep fighting against the Republicans to give you the freedom to find out for yourself. The Left has ruined everything. Blame the Liberals lol

Liberty is bad!
Anti-Fascist is bad!

God is good!

MAGA GOOGOO GAGA!!
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 10:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
... Jazz being the exception.

Aren't SSRIs already issued with warnings about their impact on youths/teens? I seem to remember it was shown that SSRIs reduce inhibitions to violent behavior.


I remember when the halfwit Christian Right wing teachers at my junior high brought my mom in for a meeting about how they felt I should be put on Ritalin (90’s adderrall for kids). I’ve never seen her be anything but nice, except in that meeting, she was vehemently opposed. And she had some words for those fucking morons and their opinion on drugging her offspring. Something to the effect of their feelings being hurt, or egos bruised, when a child is more intelligent than them and as teachers they didn’t know how to react.

Good for her. She wound up homeschooling my two youngest siblings.

Ridalin isnt even a Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor, rather i think it’s basically just medical grade Crystal Meth for kids.
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 10:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
... Jazz being the exception.

Aren't SSRIs already issued with warnings about their impact on youths/teens? I seem to remember it was shown that SSRIs reduce inhibitions to violent behavior.


Why are pharmaceutical drug manufacturers absolved from liability related to their products?

Why do gun manufacturers enjoy the same privileges?

These are the questions you don’t see being asked, because they are at the heart of the issue.
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 10:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

FortWayne says
errc says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
... Jazz being the exception.

Aren't SSRIs already issued with warnings about their impact on youths/teens? I seem to remember it was shown that SSRIs reduce inhibitions to violent behavior.


Why are pharmaceutical drug manufacturers absolved from liability related to their products?

Why do gun manufacturers enjoy the same privileges?

These are the questions you don’t see being asked, because they are at the heart of the issue.


Are car manufacturers liable for what the buyers do with the cars? Think about it, people have to be responsible themselves. If you go to restaurant, buy a taco, than murder someone with it, it's not restaurants fault that the customer is a bad man/woman.


If you go to a restaurant, they serve you a bad taco and it kills you, is it your fault or is the restaurant liable?
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 10:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

zzyzzx says
Illegal aliens kill more Americans than school shootings.


Drunk drivers kill an order of magnitude more than both combined.

Where’s the outrage?
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 11:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Approaching 200 comments and not one person attempted a cost benefit analysis, even though it is the topic of the thread.

Capitalism is dead, and us Capitalists are a dying breed
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 11:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

HEYYOU says
I guess the only way to fix stupid is to continue to vote for Republicans & Democrats.


Amen
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 1:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_cf6c6 says
errc says
Are car manufacturers liable for what the buyers do with the cars? Think about it, people have to be responsible themselves. If you go to restaurant, buy a taco, than murder someone with it, it's not restaurants fault that the customer is a bad man/woman.


If you go to a restaurant, they serve you a bad taco and it kills you, is it your fault or is the restaurant liable?


What a straw man.

Wow, Liberalism is definitely a mental disease.


I see. So what you’re saying is that the gun makers product worked exactly as intended at the Florida school: to turn 17 people into a bloody puddle of pulp. Hence, nothing to be liable for. It worked as advertised
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 1:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

mell says
Tim Aurora says
Patrick says
It is ironic that the Democrats, historically the party of the workers, have become without any doubt a tool of the elite to maintain their own righteous but wobbly sense of self-worth and that the Democrats, historically the party of the elite, now represent the working poor.


Could be. Bernie is more socialist as compared to Hillary. But chances of Bernie getting elected over Trump was not good. And the center wants the country to be more capitalistic as compared to socialist.

Also, education is the new currency to be at the top of the world. You can either let China or Germany take the lead or use our education system propel us to the top. While our primary educations leaves much to be desired , American universities are still considered elite and attract the best. No need to snark at them.


Thing ...


Bernie is the most popular and well liked politician in the country. Yet the media snuffed him out because the Oligarchs who own the media prefer Trump to Bernie. Facts
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 7:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

someone else says
errc says
Yet the media snuffed him out because the Oligarchs who own the media prefer Trump to Bernie.


I disagree. The media did not snuff out Bernie. Hillary colluded with the DNC to snuff him. That's a fact.

It's true that leftist oligarchs who own the media did elect Trump, but not intentionally. Their unwitting gift of billions of dollars of free publicity did it. Every day that they put Trump back in the headlines with their shocked! indignation at his failure to conform to their narrative, they got him another million votes by that action alone.

This is the explanation for the media's relentless hate for Trump voters: "Proprium humani ingenii est odisse quem laeseris", meaning "It is human nature to hate those whom we have injured". All of the media elite come from the same Ivy League milieu where hatred for the poor whites that they have excluded and mocked is the only thin...


So what you’re saying is The Media gave Bernie a fair shake?

And that the media doesn’t know that any publicity is good publicity?

What do you think the Entertainment News Media is selling, exactly?
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 7:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

People brainwashed by Right Wing Retardism: we must ban medical flowers! Or else I’m really going to feel like a cucked loser with daddy issues when all the white girls are getting piped by black guys!


Same brainwashed retards: must have guns maga googoo gaga
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 7:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Tenpoundbass says
errc says
So what you’re saying is The Media gave Bernie a fair shake?


It was clear by watching Hillary's debates, Bernie didn't give himself a fair shake. He was not in a debate to win it, that's for sure. The only heated exchange in the whole debate was when everyone was Kissing Hillary's ass because Trump hurt her feelings. They were debating Hillary defending her, while giving it Good to Trump.

Yeah Poor fucking Career Marxist Jew Bernie. Tough break, whudid his wife steal from that college? Everyone was counting on Hillary winning and saving everyone's bacon, the kniniving fucks.


I know, i kniw. Trump has a good penis to reem the Christian school boys with. We love daddy. Daddy can do no wrong.

Wetfart.com steve bannon is MAGA oh noes bannon is GOOGOO GAGA
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 19, 9:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick says
errc says
So what you’re saying is The Media gave Bernie a fair shake?


No, I did not say that. Check above.

They are usually aware that all publicity is good publicity, but somehow completely lost their shit before the last election and never recovered it.


I checked above

You mean when you posted as “Patrick”
Or as “someone else”?

I said the media snuffed out Bernie

You said Hillary and the DNC snuffed out Bernie.

From what i saw reported ‘news’ coverage of Bernie was almost none. And the media showed their guesstimate of Superdelegates as being actual delegates votes for Hillary, without any context from Day 1 of Bernie coming on the scene
  errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 20, 3:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Family values!

MAGA!!