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  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 3, 1:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says

Actually I have. If a company has more free cash available, because they didn't have to spend it on taxes, where does that money get spent?


I seriously doubt that you've ever run a company.

Executive compensation, shareholder dividends, and stock buybacks is where most if not all will be spent. Corporations have record amounts of cash reserves, record profits, and record stock valuations before the bill was passed.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 3, 2:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says

Second, the debt "projection" is just that, a "projection", and we know how well these projections work out when it comes to reality.


Yes we know how these projections work out. There will be a lot more debt than projected.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 3, 3:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

Tenpoundbass says
It sure would have been nice if some Liberals took me serious when I was warning about this predatory behavior when it was happening to us in 2012.
Perhaps they could have nipped it in the bud, and Obamacare could have turned into something nice.

Those Bastards milked us out of $35K in one year.


Anyone out there that can translate this into some form of english?

Everyone realizes the article about auto accidents in CANADA don't they?
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 3, 3:41pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Sniper says
bob2356 says

I seriously doubt that you've ever run a company.

Executive compensation, shareholder dividends, and stock buybacks is where most if not all will be spent.


Oh Bobby, not again.

Can you tell us how many companies are public and offer stock and dividends in the country. Let's see how well you do.


Not again what? Calling you out on posting nonsense?

Not sure why this matters to you but there are 1.7 million C corps with 5734 public as of the end of 2017. You do know the new 20% corporate tax rate only applies to C corps don't you? S corps and LLC's are pass through. You do know private C corps pay their executives, pay dividends to the shareholders, and can even buy back stock don't you? Which is exactly what both private and public C corps will be doing with their tax savings.

So do you have any kind of point here whatsoever?
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 3, 3:43pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

HappyGilmore says


Nope--I don't think you know how to read a chart. Deficit in 2009 = $1,413B. Deficit in 2016 = $585B. Down by $828 Billion.


CIC/ironman/ovation/sniper has some very serious deficits in his math eduction.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 3, 6:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Is this the same republicans that had no problem with the bengazi investigation taking 3 years to find nothing and starr spending 6 years to discover bill got a blow job? Interesting.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 4, 6:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says
All thanks to our new best friend, MBS the Prince of Arabia.
Strategist says
Our only choice is to control them through puppets like the Crown Prince MBS.


You guys are really funny. How many radical imans around the world have been stopped from preaching terrorism? How many radical madras (aka terrorist training schools) around the world have been shut down? How many saudi's nave been arrested for sending out money to terrorists? The answer would be zero/zilch/nada/none.

The people arrested have only 2 traits. They have big bank accounts to confiscate and they have enough power to oppose MBS. The whole thing is a power grab, nothing to do with reform of any kind.

But hey keep on dreaming.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 5:33am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says


Good evening Bob. Hope you are keeping warm in ice country.


Totally toasty, really enjoying the cooler weather. No ice to be seen except at the ski area's. Ski day 19 today. Should make the 100 day club by late march.

Strategist says


Power grab comes first if you want your own puppet in power.


How do you figure the saudi prince in power de jour is our puppet? More the other way around, trump is his puppet. The bullshit talk of reform will die the second aramco goes public and KSA aka the prince banks the money.

Let me know when some reforms that actually reign in saudi sponsored radical islam around the world happen. Not that anyone born in the 20th or 21st century is going to live long enough to see that happen.

Keep dreaming.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 5:45am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

Heraclitusstudent says

If you don't deport illegal, and set up 'sanctuary' cities where they won't fear to be deported, then first you are obviously in favor of illegal immigration


What a crock of shit. Cities don't deport people, immigration is federal law. Sanctuary cities just don't do ICE's job for them.

If you don't stand up and demand people hiring illegals be put in jail then you are obviously in favor of illegal immigration. No jobs, no illegals Where are the raids on the big food processors like tyson and smithfeild since trump has taken office? Where are the raids on the big agri operations? Republican lawmakers fire up the base like you about illegals but constantly block any reform that would be meaningful. You are being played by people who are laughing all the way to the bank at how gullible you are.

Bread and circus. Works every time.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 5:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

FortWayne says
It didn’t fail, it saved America in the 80s.
It was known as a great recovery. You should know your history.


America was saved in the 80's by cheap oil prices, tripling the number of women in the work force, and 70 million baby boomers moving into the workplace while becoming consumers. You should know your history.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 6:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
You're seeing true Dementia on display by this washed up hag. Apparently she doesn't remember the disaster called Obamacare.


You shouldn't talk about yourself like that. It's true your dementia is getting much worse but you really shouldn't demean yourself.

Let's refresh your memory, which will last at least 5 minutes, a bit.

The ACA had 3 months of public debate, 13 days of markup (the longest markup period in history), 7 CBO assessments, and 25 days senate debate.

Want to tell us how much public debate, markup time, cbo assessments, days of senate debate the tax bill had? Hint, it's a number between 1 and -1.

At the very least the ACA got typed, not voted on with hand written notes stuck in by lobbyists as part of the bill. What a fucking embarrassment.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 6:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

KimJongUn says


How would the situation described in this thread would be handled in Bernie-free-shit-land: https://patrick.net/post/1312247/2017-12-03-licensed-to-bill-how-doctors-profit-from-injury-assessments-that-benefit-insruance-companies


What does canadian car accidents have to do with bernie? That's like adding 2 + 2 and coming up with negative pi.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 7:03pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says

Trump is their puppet? ha ha ha Trump does not need the Saudi regime to survive. The Saudi regime needs Trump for their survival. They need our weapons to defeat Iran. Without American weapons the Saudis would get barbecued by the Iranians.


So thats why trump scrambled to make KSA his first foreign visit as president and kuscher and company have been running a commuter service over there. Because they need us Just look at how many trips the needy king has taken to see trump here. Did you ever consider making objective reality align with what you post? It's just a thought.

Strategist says

Have patience. Let MBS become king first.


He had no trouble arresting and confiscating all the money from the most powerful people in the KSA. Yet he can't shut down rag bag mosques and madras schools in third world shitholes. Nor can he stop the flow of money to terrorists in a country where the government controls every financial transaction? How does that work?. Did you ever consider making objective reality align with what you post? It's just a thought.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 7:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

KimJongUn says

Federal tax law does this?


The tax bill at this point lets expensive private schools be paid from tax free savings accounts while eliminating tax deductions for property taxes which are mostly for public schools. So yes that statement is true unless the reconciliation committee does something really unexpected.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 6, 3:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says

Irrelevant, deceptive, and false. You are comparing "kuscher and company" vs the Saudi King. They are not equivalent heads of state.


That's a really lame justification even for you. So how many times has the king who needs us so much come to see trump and how many times has trump visited the king who needs us so much?
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 6, 4:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says
Confiscating the money from all those Prince's was the right thing to do. They stole the oil money, not earned it. It belongs to the people. His actions tells us this is the guy we need to support.


The prince got his money from the tooth fairy leaving a really big lump under his pillow is what you are saying? Even more lame. If you look around the poker table and can't see the sucker then the sucker is you.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 6, 12:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says

They have hundreds of Prince's. All of them looting the treasury in broad daylight.


Of which MBS is top of the list of looters. Do you think he paid for his 425 million euro yacht with grocery store redemption stamps? You, trump, and two scoops getting played big time. At least trump is going to put a shitload of money in his pocket. What are the patnet twins getting?
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 8, 5:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
Thank goodness for SJWs, losing elections for Democrats since 2010.


Try again. Citizens United decision not SJW overturned the political landscape. .
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 8, 5:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_80a5e says
Yeah, Hillary got us Trump. No question about that. She put her personal interest ahead of the whole country.


Someone who gets it.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 8, 6:10am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Tenpoundbass says

Not so! You don't get to place final judgment on me or the people I support.
I was spot on in 2009 when Obama was standing arm and arm with T-Boone Pickens, Warren Buffet, Mike Bloomfield, and Bill Gates wagging their fingers at the 1% driving a wedge between the middle class wage earners, and the Unemployed professional Socialist comrades. The grotesque Irony was NOT lost on me and posted here countless times during Obama's 1% Rich bastard bailouts, while the Sheeple Idiots were all saying "Obama is saving the world from a global Depression!" Another out right lie that was full of Shit. Those same people swore up and down that by electing Trump the wonderful economy Obama salvaged would collapse. But that didn't happen and more of my friends family and loved ones are working than in the last 10 years or more.


Show where T-Boone Pickens, Warren Buffet, Mike Bloomfield, and BIll Gates said the economy would collapse if trump was elected. I never saw that.

Tenpoundbass says

I am standing on good solid ground with my Track record History proved me right time and time again, it's you guys that are on the downside of the Truth.


For someone with a track record history proved right time and time again you sure have a lot of trouble remembering the 1% bailout was bush. Truth TPB style.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 8, 6:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Tenpoundbass says




Yep, trump has really done a hockey stick curve on number on the number of manufacturing jobs. oh wait that was bush and the stick was going down. Never mind.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 9, 4:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

lostand confused says
Liberal logic again. Here she is saying Roy moore wrote the whole thing at the 10.40 min mark. Now she claims she wrote it and liberals still argue this is not a forgery. SHE and Gloria allred made the claim-on their own. Now they got caught in a lie and say oops I wrote-that is what is called a forgery.


Fox news says she just added the place and date after the signature. Experts say the note is moores signature. Are you saying fox news is wrong and the writing experts are wrong. That she wrote the note and forged the signature to it? Odd how she used different hand writing for his part of the note than for her addition.

Anything to back this up with or are we going with (liberal) fox is wrong and it's true because I say it's true?
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 9, 5:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
bob2356 says
Try again. Citizens United decision not SJW overturned the political landscape. .


Problem with that is that she outraised him, mostly from powerful, wealthy entities, by a huge amount.


News flash. The campaigns aren't the only spending in elections. Look up the word 501(c) which barely existed before citizens united but now they spend more than the campaigns. At a ratio of 10 to 1 republican. What entities do you suppose fund them?

Hillary had 300 million in the bank before trump started raising money, which is almost exactly the amount she out raised trump by, 623 million to 334 million. If trump had another year to raise funds it would have been pretty even. Trump raised less because he started a year later.

The discussion was about republican gain in seats since citizens united, not the presidential election. Do you have anything relevant or meaningful to add to that subject?
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 9, 6:02am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

lostand confused says

Liberals, liberals. Here is Beverly saying Roy Moore signed it and including the DA. Now she admits she signed the DA. As for the signature writing experts-leave it tot he experts to prove the liars that make up the liberal media. Watch at 10.40-what is she saying


You are having a lot of trouble with the concept of signature. Are you saying a)he didn't write any of it, b)he wrote it all, or c)he wrote it and signed it then she added to it? Don't do a bretibart weasel deal, pick one and stand by it. If he wrote the note then signed his name and she added DA, the place, and date. So what? If it's true (unlike you I'll wait for some actual real evidence to actually decide) then why is some 30 something guy writing love notes in a high school kid's yearbook no matter what she added. That's just creepy and perverted.

Dig deeper at what? Where did I say what I believe about it? I'm just asking. Are you saying fox is wrong? It's a very simple question.

Your video doesn't work.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 9, 4:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Logan Mohtashami says
1. Over 154,000,000 Americans working with the longest job expansion on record with consecutive months


But, but, but I was told obama destroyed the economy. Was that not true somehow?

I'm not seeing anything about cheap energy here. Big economic expansions always seem to happen during cheap energy periods.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 9, 5:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Fucking White Male says
http://www.dailywire.com/news/21559/media-ignore-mass-shooting-tennessee-because-it-hank-berrien


It's not a mass shooting. The definition of mass shooting is 3 or more people killed.

Patrick says

Yes, this was studiously ignored by the mainstream media, and it is a plausible explanation that the story was ignored because of media prejudice.


There have been 317 mass shootings as of nov 15th. Were they all in the mainstream media? No, not even close. So what makes 1 person killed in this 1 case so special the "mainstream media" should have jumped on it when they didn't cover hundreds of much bigger shootings? Looks like the daily wire story is the bias.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 9, 5:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Goran_K says
HappyGilmore says
Because of the Constitution? Ever heard of it?


Sure.

But I'm talking on a purely water cooler level. Does it seem fair that people who contribute nothing to the system get to vote on how money is spent? Seems pretty unfair.


I wasn't aware we had switched to a referendum system for the federal budget. I didn't get the memo. As far as I knew no one but congress gets to vote how the money is spent, although lobbyists get to write a lot of stuff in to be voted on. People get to vote for their representatives to congress. Something all American citizens SHOULD know.

How can anyone contribute nothing? That's absurd. They pay fica, they buy things from business that pay taxes, they pay fees, they pay sales taxes, they pay property taxes, gasoline taxes, etc., etc..
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 9, 5:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

lostand confused says
bob2356 says
You are having a lot of trouble with the concept of signature

That is you. It is not me saying. She said he signed the whole thing in her speech. Now she says she signed part of it-contradicting her own claim. She claimed it was the judge and outlined what he signed, now she is saying what she claimed the good Judge signed-she actually put it in there. Tis is not me, you, breitbart-I know liberal logic will never allow facts.


No answer to my simple question I see. Run and hide.

So what if she wrote some stuff in after his writing? Why are you not bothered by a 30 something year old perverted lecher writing this type of shit in a high school girls year book?

Damn it would be a really nice looking forest if all these fucking trees weren't in the way.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 10, 9:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

lostand confused says
bob2356 says
So what if she wrote some stuff in after his writing?

Except she and the Allred lady claimed Moore WROTE IT.

As usual liberals. It has come to this-so what she forged stuff? Do you need two shovels to dig deeper?


Still ducking the first question. Do you say fox is wrong? Run and hide.

Still ducking the real issue. Did this creep write in the book or not? Run and hide.

The only shovels I will need is to dig you out of your hiding space.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 10, 9:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

BayAreaObserver says
But now a group called the GOP is trying to change all that:


What do you mean now? There is a long history. Things have actually improved, at least republican paedophiles preying on young girls now.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 10, 2:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Quigley says
Remember when the media loved Trump?


No. When was that?
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 10, 2:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Quigley says
Poll: 92% of Democrats ignorant and gullible


That's 8% better then the republican party.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 10, 2:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick says
"I saw it in the paper" is not proof.


You accept it as proof every day here.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 10, 2:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Logan Mohtashami says

Cheap Energy, actually the only real hit we took in this cycle was when the dollar got strong, oil prices crashed and we saw lost economic output in those oil states, retail sales trend stayed its course even with oil prices high and low


Oil prices crashed because of high production and low demand the same as always.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 10, 5:39pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick says
Are you saying that an accusation in the press is proof?


You and quite a number of people here have no trouble accepting accusations in the press as proof if they are what you what to hear and labelling them fake news if they aren't.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 10, 5:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

lostand confused says
Case closed.


Run and hide.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 10, 5:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Logan Mohtashami says
bob2356 says

Oil prices crashed because of high production and low demand the same as always.


Like I said production outstripped demand.
  bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 10, 5:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
bob2356 says
You and quite a number of people here have no trouble accepting accusations in the press as proof if they are what you what to hear and labelling them fake news if they aren't.


So there were WMDs in Iraq?

"Jackie" was raped by UVa Frat Boys?

Metal is connected to Teen Crime?

Video Games promote Raep Culture?

Don Jr. got an early taste of Wikileaks thanks to Putin telling Assange (LOL) to give it out?


More like pedophile pizza parlor ring, clinton hit squad, obama born in kenya.