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Who should be locked down?
The projection was 1M+ deaths in the USA and to hold the line so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed. Condition #1 never happened and definitely won't at this point. Condition #2 clearly isn't met - half of Cali hospital beds are empty.
The goal is illogical. You want folks who won't die to have immunity. You want folks who are at high risk of dying to be locked down. You are killing the future elderly by preventing them from developing immunity to the virus when they have an effective immune system to do so.
You can't suppress or contain Covid-19. It's too late; it's already out there.
Why is the US so much lower than Europe
From your articles hockey stick graph:"Figure 2: weekly deaths by year, all influenza deaths removed, 2020 corrected for delays in reporting."What does it look like without the flu deaths removed?
Maybe some of the excess deaths are being caused by the shutdown
Or the models that powered the lockdowns, claiming 1M deaths, and overcrowded hospitals - the latter even if we did lockdown.
The whole thing seems to be a hoax. You know anybody that's died from it? Supposedly more people have died from this virus than were killed in Vietnam.
"this is MAGA country" (you know, Chicago - THAT'S Trump territory)?
If that is the case, you must credit Trump.
Don't you realize how much he's been correct about?
He called the Covid-19 threat "a hoax". I'm sure the disease exists. It seems to be about as dangerous as the flu. Was he right?
He was not right. Where are you getting that it's as dangerous as the flu?According to the CDC 62,000 people died of the flu last year.
He was not right. Where are you getting that it's as dangerous as the flu?
It's normal to see a rise in states that have not been affected much prior, doesn't necessarily mean the lockdown or lack thereof is responsible for it.
No one flag this comment (unlike the other one that got flagged of mine for no reason). I want it to just sit here. The hypocrisy is astounding. I love it.
Sticking by a max of 80,000, with more evidence:From https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america
logic saysWhat really sucks is that I was right about how much Trump would add to the deficit too.@Patrick 's Model didn't take into account that Libtard Governors of NJ, PA, and NY would send COVID sufferers to nursing homes.Nobody thought their PhDs in Social Warfare and Public Administration (aka "Public Health Experts") would be dumb enough to do such a thing.https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-sent-recovering-coronavirus-patients-to-nursing-homes-it-was-a-fatal-error-11589470773
What really sucks is that I was right about how much Trump would add to the deficit too.
Here we are just over a week later. And the results are fantastic. Still waiting on that second wave....
I already addressed what you claim is an giant second wave. A rise of 100 per day for a week, then a sharp drop is not a second wave.
LOL! A bump of an extra 100 cases per day for a week then drops like a CLIFF is a second wave?
Stop focusing on new cases as there's more testing! This isn't complicated. I just posted a graph from the same source for deaths. That IS the scary part of this virus and it's clearly going away.
You only get about 60% of your required Oxygen intake wearing those masks.
The bigger danger to masks is probably the impediment to getting rid of CO2.
The people ponying up the graphs, facts, science in this thread and others are the Shutdown Skeptics.
Not true at all. Anyone needing or receiving critical care, close to death, has likely been tested days if not weeks ago. Basically there's a high probability that we know when someone passes if they have COVID-19 or not. Those numbers cannot lag as much as fresh cases.
The narrative instilled in people's minds by the lamestream media and certain leftoids is now that Sweden is a failure because they have a moderate to high infection/death rate compared to other countries, however they are somewhere around 5-10 in the top 10 with many countries with strict lockdowns with higher rates in front of them. Nonetheless I have heard that argument now at least 5 times and always had to correct them that there's zero statistical significance in those varations.
Sweden has 1.5 x cases per capita than Denmark and twice those of Norway and Finland, nothing to see here.
Density. Pay attention. Infections and deaths of course are correlated as well but not as strongly as infections and deaths to density.