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  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 11, 8:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
I'm sure a small jar of Vaseline will love you in more ways than a vinyl wank ever could.


Did you read this guy's review? He already answered your 'vasoline' question. Go read the whole article ...

Excerpt:

"When the opening cavities of the RealDoll 2 are penetrated, a vacuum is created inside the doll’s entries. This gives a powerful suction effect, which feels out of this world. This effect can be felt especially well with the oral cavities. Personally, though, I prefer the vaginal cavities. They are built to perfection, and there is nothing I love more than taking my RealDoll out for a ride in my bedroom."
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 11, 9:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says

FortWayne claims to be a church "militant," i.e. more Catholic than the Pope. Cromwell indeed.


Fortunately, years after his natural death, Cromwell was posthumously convicted for regicide and has had his grave removed from Westminster Abbey permanently. He's not considered a true legitimate ruler of Britain, only an Interregnum Junta.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 11, 10:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Rin have you tried one of these out yet? I imagine these things would smell hella fake compared to the real thing.


I'm waiting until the A.I. stuff is fully integrated.

https://realbotix.com

As for the end of this year, it'll be basically a beta product.

I'll wait until the "Windows 3.1" version is out (using yesteryear's IT analogy), before the test drive.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 12, 8:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Rin have you tried one of these out yet? I imagine these things would smell hella fake compared to the real thing.


Here's my user acceptance test ...

http://patrick.net/post/1311521/2017-10-26-rin-s-first-user-acceptance-test-for-a-sex-robot

Rin: What do you want?

Sex Robot: I want ...

Rin: Go on ...

Sex Robot: Your cock ...

Rin: Proceed ...

Sex Robot: Inside me

Rin: Excellent, first test is complete, now, on to the others!
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 12, 1:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tits in Japan

  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 12, 1:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Bouncy big tits in Japan



It's not about blonde hair & blue eyes ... it's about bazonkas!
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 12, 1:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tits in Japan

  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 12, 1:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Japanese tits ...

  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 12, 3:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

KgK one says
What's the point of rin wah law if none one except u use it. You have to get others on it. First by helping them get loads $$$. Then guidant then to hose. Once they get taste they will make it famous


Rin Wah law starts in stages.

In the beginning, the most a guy can afford is a RealDoll in America. With that in mind, he needs to decouple dating & banging. The banging happens with 'the doll' and so-called meetings with women, are about business & networking. In other words, use their leads to gain business contacts and such, but never get involved with them. Remember, most women are vultures.

Then, as money increases, start quarterly trips to Montreal, if you're east coast, or Central America, if you're on the western/southwest side.

And yes, when your income stream is booming, look into Australia, Germany (FKK), etc.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 12, 3:37pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TrumpCuck says
I've always felt that paying prostitutes for sex is pathetic. It's like masturbating while someone else happens to be in the room, and then paying for the privilege.


And I'm sure if you go to a restaurant and not pay the staff for the food and their service that that would make you feel like a 'real man'. Please, stop being such a turd.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 12, 4:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The only IRA ppl know of today, is the Individual Retirement Account.

Sands was forgotten a long time ago.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 12, 8:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Automan Empire says
Get it all OUT of your system.


Why get it out of one's system? I've been fucking French-Canadians for quite some time and you know what? ... I like it.

The 'system' is happy.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 13, 8:48am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
despite the aid they got from Irish-Americans, because they regard America as an evil colonialist enterprise


This is widely known as the dirty secret of the Boston area.

When I was an infant, there were numerous Irish pubs around town, where one could discreetly deposit cash in canisters which would be sent off to the IRA. I believe the city of Boston was the greatest sponsor of terrorism, back in those days. It's not talked about anymore but it did happen.

Patrick says
Bobby Sands is quite a hero in the Republic.


I'm glad I'd never visited Ireland, as I know ppl who were affected by those IRA bombings in Britain.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 13, 11:33am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
to prevent wavering Catholics in the 70s from accepting any Agreement that addressed all their actual concerns.


Well yes, otherwise, how could Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox get along in places like Boston (along with practically everywhere else in America), if there were constant sectarian violence against one another?

Seriously, Whitey Bulger was the last Irish-Catholic-American thug, who thought he could run his own little religious-ethnic cul-de-sac in Boston, only to become the city's most reviled criminal. If Bulger's memory could be deposed than so can jerkweeds like Sinn Fein, along with his clones.

What the IRA wants is a through back to those counter-reformation times in the 17th century, In essence, they have the same moral compass as our Islamist friends in the middle east.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 16, 3:29am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
It won’t be illegal forever with slippery slope of moral decay.

Roman Empire didn’t start with it either, but ended with it, before it’s demise.


Did you actually study ancient history?

Men and women in Rome were having ORGIES, during the Punic (a.k.a Carthaginian) Wars, TWO CENTURIES before they'd even become an EMPIRE.

So yes, during the time that they were beating up on the Carthaginians, Macedonians, & anyone else in their way, to become the masters of the Mediterranean, they were engaged in debauchery.

So why did the Empire collapse, if it wasn't due to sexual intercourse?

It was due to ... you guessed it, MULTICULTURALISM & OUTSOURCING of one's defenses. The Roman Empire used barbarian mercenary armies to protect its perimeter instead of true Italian armies and soon enough, these foreign warlords wanted a piece of the action and before you know it, new NON-ROMAN NATIONALITIES grew up, all over the place, supplanting a once united Empire. Does that sound like anything going on today, with non-assimilating Islamic communities in the west?

So yes, Rome started with sex and ended with it.

If God didn't want Rome to become an Empire, he would have { Sodom & Gomorrah-ized } it, long before anyone even heard about it. That would be, as a modern equivalent, around the time of our French & Indian war of the 1750s. If the 13 colonies were vaporized back then ... no United States of America.

Instead, after all that success, the Romans made the classic mistake of thinking that it could trust its borders to non-assimilating barbarians, And that was many centuries later, which by the USA's timeline would be the year 2250-2300.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 16, 10:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Rin says
Instead, after all that success, the Romans made the classic mistake of thinking that it could trust its borders to non-assimilating barbarians, And that was many centuries later, which by the USA's timeline would be the year 2250-2300.

Another issue is that it went from mostly a nation of free farmers to semi-serfs, with most land owned by large landowners by the end of empire. Same is happening in West now, where a very small group of super-rich own more than everyone else.


Which also supports the idea of a foreign rule preference over local, as the local Patricians, at least whomsoever was left by the 5th/6th centuries, didn't have the interest of his peasant farmers in mind.

The last unofficial ruler of the western Empire was not Odoacer (as the Cliff Notes say) but Theodoric, an Ostrogoth warlord. After that succession, ties with Constantinople were severed and the two sides of the former Roman Empire went their separate ways forever. Theodoric had also lost regional control over the Vandals and Visigoths on the borders of the Italian peninsula which in effect, gave rise to Medieval Europe.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 17, 1:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Rin says
It was due to ... you guessed it, MULTICULTURALISM & OUTSOURCING of one's defenses. The Roman Empire used barbarian mercenary armies to protect its perimeter instead of true Italian armies and soon enough, these foreign warlords wanted a piece of the action and before you know it, new NON-ROMAN NATIONALITIES grew up, all over the place, supplanting a once united Empire. Does that sound like anything going on today, with non-assimilating Islamic communities in the west?


Let me add to this great insight:

Previously, the backbone of the Roman Army were sons of Rural Italian Farmers. However, between Slavery and Enclosures, the rural Farmers were pushed into the cities, then they were replaced by Slaves at those manual and skilled labor jobs. Because a Greek Mason-Slave is cheaper than a Saucy Roman Bricklayer.

"We don't need our own workers anymore. More...


Which all and all, indicates that sex between men and women, didn't result in the fall of the Empire, as FortWayne likes to assert, as he's a one trick pony and doesn't know jack about history, despite knowing the fact that even his beloved President Trump also sees hoes.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 17, 1:42pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
Usually those on the streets have burned through all of their family and friends.


Wow! For the first time since the sex robot dispute, we're in full accordance.

Yes, burning bridges does that for someone. Many ppl who don't burn bridges, can make a comeback, given enough time to get things in order. Now, this will change once all jobs are automated but that's a discussion for another decade. We'll pick this up in 2035 but between now and then, this assertion remains correct.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 17, 1:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Rin says
beloved President Trump also sees hoes.


But that is completely different, as Trump is one of the Founding Fathers and thus in mind of many can do anything without soiling his reputation and/or Depends.
Edit: and I do not hold Trump's escapades with hoes against him, and neither his "grab by pussy" talk. If anything, that makes him more normal than the average politician.


Sorry, but if Trump can see hoes then so can I.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 17, 10:32pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
At what age should it be legal to teach young boys and girls about prostitution careers?

Because once society oks something, there are those who will scream it’s their right to sell and promote being a hoe.


At this point in time, porn is legal and thus, anyone has the right to promote one's porn career. If you noticed, porn is prostitution but with a camera attached. That's how it's been pseudo-legalized across the USA, even though that's not true decriminalization.

And as we know, that age is 18, as when Traci Lords admitted that she'd lied about her age during her porn shoots, all the distributors destroyed their copies of her films, as that was CHILD PORN, an actual crime in this country of ours, along with other Anglo peer nations like Canada, Britain, Australia, and New Zealand, nevermind the other 1st/2nd world nations.

So yes, even ppl in the porn industry know when to pull the plug on the young ones.

FortWayne says
Rin you only think of your own pleasure here, you aren’t thinking of consequences as you have lived consequences free life


Why don't you have that heart to heart talk with our Commander in Chief, a man who only thinks of his own pleasure? And one whose job title is considerably higher than my own.


jazz_music says
Prostitution is something to be sad about, very much intertwined with slavery, theft, kidnapping and violence.


You forgot about college aged women wanting to buy a Louis Vuitton bag, you know, the ones which costs a grand or so. Don't think that all women want to become hedge fund managers, neurosurgeons, or heaven forbid ... programmer analysts.

mell says
They are not against prostitution because it's demeaning, but because it restricts their already puny sexual options due to almost non-existent sexual market value (i.e. looks). The goal of feminists is to restrict male sexuality to the highest degree while maximizing women's sexual options without any responsibility for the outcomes. That's why they often see prostitutes as dangerous competition. They will also call for the ban of sex robots and Rin will have to use his wealth to support his cause and freedom, or just emigrate.


All true.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 17, 10:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
same time ignore the fact that their beloved president who can do no wrong is banging hoes while being married.


And that why I don't like Puritans because unlike the President, I haven't even dated in 7+ years, nevermind the conjoined wife & kids. If anything, I'm living a true life, one of work and then, of hoes! No woman can ever accuse me of cheating because I haven't given 'em the time of day.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 17, 10:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says

...and especially that NATO MSM and politicians deny always the central role of Islam itself. As long as they can point to at least one Muslim who didn't personally fly an airliner into an office tower on 9/11, politicians can continue pretending the motive (Islam) had nothing to do with the crime.


This is the problem with the idea that ALL international religions whether it be Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc, are suppose to have their distinct merits, among their adherents. Unfortunately, to say that Islam is little more than a front for Medieval Arabic Colonialism would be the equivalent of a global Rushdie explosion.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 17, 11:12pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Here's something, closer to the truth ...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast

Excerpt: "First, the Soon-Yi situation:

Every time I stumble upon this topic on the internet, it seems the people who are most outraged are also the most ignorant of the facts. Following are the top ten misconceptions, followed by my response in italics:

#1: Soon-Yi was Woody’s daughter. False.

#2: Soon-Yi was Woody’s step-daughter. False.

#3: Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia’s adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.

#4: Woody and Mia were married. False.

#5: Woody and Mia lived together. False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia’s apartment in 12 years.

#6: Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage. False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.

#7: Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.

#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)

#9: Soon-Yi was borderline retarded. Ha! She’s smart as a whip, has a degree from Columbia University and speaks more languages than you.

#10: Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from an early age to be his child bride. Oh, come on! According to court documents and Mia’s own memoir, until 1990 (when Soon-Yi was 18 or 20), Woody “had little to do with any of the Previn children, (but) had the least to do with Soon-Yi” so Mia encouraged him to spend more time with her. Woody started taking her to basketball games, and the rest is tabloid history. So he hardly “had his eye on her” from the time she was a child."

=====

My only disagreement is with #9, Columbia is seriously overrated, as a top tier college outside of a few depts. Otherwise, the article stands.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 17, 11:25pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Evan F. says
. Another one of his classmates had a shit GPA and still got into UCSD MD/PhD


LMAO!!!!!!
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 18, 9:27am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
jazz_music says
Prostitution is demeaning to everybody involved.

Also, I'd say that this is an attitude straight from Christian beliefs. Why is exchange of money for mutually agreed service demeaning in any way?


This has been my point, all along. The thing which Oliver Cromwell's fanboys, a.k.a Puritans, brought to the United States was this notion.

When Cromwell's dictatorship ended, the theatres reopened in England and ppl were free of Cromwell's "Divine Providence", once again. Fast forward a few centuries and today, seeing hoes is legal in Britain but illegal in the USA, the so-called home of the free.

Here's the Puritanism ...



  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 18, 9:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
+escort services, +sugardaddies, and other things that are prostitution in everything but name.


Not exactly, the above are 'enforced' relationships.

In other words, the idea is that one has to form a 'relationship' before boinking and thus, it's the most legal form of hypocrisy out there.

The only legal prostitution is porn, because the mere presence of the camera around incites First Amendment protection of free speech. If the studio forgets to 'roll the film', then the cops can bust up the place. So if you want to film your own movie, don't forget to getting some working equipment, pun intended.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 18, 9:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Rin says
The only legal prostitution is porn, because the mere presence of the camera around incites First Amendment protection of free speech. If the studio forgets to 'roll the film', then the cops can bust up the place. So if you want to film your own movie, don't forget to getting some working equipment, pun intended.

Then, I'd guess, the way around illegality of prostitution would be to have customer of whorehouse bring his own camera and film the encounter, thus making it perfectly legal.


I would suspect then it would probably have to be auto-saved, put on a server for a bit of time for purchase/download, and then strategically deleted periodically. Remember, the courts need to show that it was for the sake for boinking and not for movie making for a conviction.

As for escorting, the way it works is that if I wanted to go to the Indian casinos in Connecticut, I'd have to meet the escort at the tables, play a few hands of blackjack, before going back to the room for a romp because my intent was to play cards, and the boinking followed, as a result of the relationship forged at the tables. In Montreal, I have the choice of doing whatever I want and yes, I'd even taken an escort to the casino there, but after the boink.

So for CT, if the escort was undercover vice, the moment she arrives and we go to the tables, the gig is up. She'll have to leave and go home because the 'eyes in the sky' is evidence of a relationship at the tables.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 18, 10:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says
So for CT, if the escort was undercover vice, the moment she arrives and we go to the tables, the gig is up. She'll have to leave and go home because the 'eyes in the sky' is evidence of a relationship at the tables.


"Your honor, we have CCTV footage of Rin & Misty, playing blackjack for four rounds, prior to going up to the hotel room.

As you can see from the footage, he'd bought her two Manhattans and she was pretending to count cards (as if she has any talent for that), to give assistance per round. If anything, this is a relationship and thus, undercover Misty is guilty of entrapment because it's perfectly fine for a guy to take his new acquaintance to his hotel room."

Trust me, only an idiot DA would even attempt to prosecute the above.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 18, 2:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Goran_K says
You're wrong, completely and utterly wrong.

For instance, Harvard actually has an admissions policy that hurts asian admissions by artificially allowing less of them to enter the school.

Your claim is based on.... nothing... maybe something... but definitely nothing you can point to (because if you could, you would, just like I did without hesitation).


Nope, I'm right. It's pure victimization.

Lots of Asians get into Harvard. If one doesn't make the cut, it's their own fault.


Let me see ... Al Gore Jr (white guy, son of a senator, rich & connected) got into Harvard undergrad. Afterwards, even with a C average, he'd attended Vanderbilt Law School only to flunk out. Yes, straight F's on his first year finals.

How many Asians, with high GPAs, who didn't make the cut to get into Harvard undergrad, can brag about flunking out of grad school?

The Asians who do get into HU undergrad have two things ... a mix of connections and silly extracurriculars where they get to show that they helped some stupid committee on Darfur relief.

I've worked with them in the past, none of them strike me as Goethe, Newton, and Einstein. HU undergrad is about professional resume padders.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 18, 2:19pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Lots of Asians get into Harvard. If one doesn't make the cut, it's their own fault.


BTW, I'd taken classes at Harvard as a special student ... all A's.

Seriously, aside from gaining admissions, there's nothing special about the school. This is why they need to mix the rich/connected crowd, athletes, musicians, along with those who'll make the academic numbers (papers, books, GPA/standardized scores) to make themselves look like a premier school.

Asians & whites, who're not from well off/connected families, are at a disadvantage here.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 18, 3:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
LeonDurham says
Lots of Asians get into Harvard. If one doesn't make the cut, it's their own fault.

Especially if their GPA's and standardized test scores are much better than for individuals accepted to Harvard. They forgot to change their DNA and/or have the wrong mix of chromosomes, which is surely their fault.


No, their mistake was not to get a Mailboxes Etc address in Mexico (or some other South American, but not Brazil, as the Portuguese language doesn't count), and then, check off the Latino box on the application.

In fact, Asians living south of the border have done it for years w/o duress.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 18, 6:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
LeonDurham says
Lots of Asians get into Harvard. If one doesn't make the cut, it's their own fault.

Especially if their GPA's and standardized test scores are much better than for individuals accepted to Harvard. They forgot to change their DNA and/or have the wrong mix of chromosomes, which is surely their fault.


BTW, just to be fair minded, non-connected whites are also at a disadvantage.

I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of poor whites, who can pass law school, unlike Al Gore Jr.

And unlike him, many could also get B+'s to A's at Harvard undergrad, and thus, guarantee themselves a seat at places like Georgetown Law.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 18, 7:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Rin says
BTW, just to be fair minded, non-connected whites are also at a disadvantage.

definitely, esp white fucking males


Well ... if they can pass law school's first year, unlike Harvard's great alum, Al Gore Jr ... then yes.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 18, 8:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If I were a young man again, my response is ... FUCK YOU, I'm going to medical school, where my wages are guaranteed for life!
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 19, 6:44pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Was she talking about Trump's flaccid state or his erection? Realize, a lot of guys are small in the flaccid state.

Because a lot of dicks shrivel in the underwear. It takes some warmth & the sight of boobs to cause an erection.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 20, 10:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

We need sex robots and then, men and women can officially live apart. Now that's some real Apartheid, not this nonsense.

And then, women can wear strap-on dildos and pleasure each other.
  Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 23, 9:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

People, this is why you need a man like Rin.

One, I haven't dated in years. And two, I don't waste my free time with women at all.

Here's my retort against Stormy Daniels ...

http://patrick.net/post/1315298/2018-04-16-how-stormy-daniels-failed-to-entrap-rin

SD: Your honor, Rin fucked me several years ago.

Rin: Your honor, this is false. Since 2011, I have not fucked a woman in the United States of America. I've only legally fucked hoes in Montreal and other international locations.

SD: Ok, then he fucked me back in ... let say ... 2010?

Rin: Bullshit, I was fucking Alanis Morrisette, a fucked up bitch from Ontario, living in the Boston area during the time. She was my last official girlfriend.

SD: Je suis Quebecoise ... d'accord?

Rin: Stormy, give it a rest! That's the worst French-Canadian accent I've ever heard!



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