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9/11: SHORT WTC7 VIDEO COMPILATION


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2021 Apr 5, 5:22pm   9,580 views  177 comments

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I don't want to debate who killed Kennedy, or who planned and executed 9/11/2001. History might tell the truth someday.

Two planes did not take down 3 steel framed towers. It's clear that the official story is wrong to anyone that has studied Physics. David Chandler, creator of this video used to teach physics.

I don't want to debate it. Oswald did not fire his Italian relic from the book depository without help. He was not a lone gunman. The MIC and intelligence agencies have been subverting our constitution for a long time.

Wars in my lifetime:
Vietnam
The war on poverty
The war on drugs
The war on Terror
The war on the invisible enemy

We must have lost all of these wars for every time one happens the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and we all lose more of our essential liberties so that the government can keep us safe.

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19   WookieMan   2021 Apr 6, 7:39am  

Robert Sproul says
I heard a pilot once talk about the near impossibility of flying a plane at speed into the Pentagon. He said that the target at that speed is razor thin and he doesn't know any pilot that could reliably hit it dead on. The Pentagon and Building 3 kind of Jumped the Shark, narrative wise.

I don't know if some Muslim nut bag could do it, but fly into Midway in Chicago. Hitting a building the size of the pentagon is what you have to do or you're on Cicero Ave. Commercial airline pilots could do it no problem.

I do question that that some Arab training on a Cessna 172 or whatever they trained on could do it. There's a lot of holes in the narrative which makes sense to question, but there's also a lot of luck in life. Unless it was part of the plan, there was still the plane that crashed in a field in Pennsylvania or where ever that was. Pentagon may have been luck, but the towers were likely easy targets for anyone with any time in the air.

In passing I've spoken with engineers. They all say it's not impossible what happened with the towers and building 7. They have no bias on the topic, so I tend to believe them. That said, I think it's okay to question the fuck out of something the magnitude of 9/11. Regardless of it being government orchestrated, the reaction still led to a dumb ass war with the wrong country because daddy was still pissed about not fucking up Iraq. I've always thought people that named their kids after them are a bit twisted in the brain.
20   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 6, 8:16am  

richwicks says
Bitcoin says
Geraldo's boss orders Geraldo to plant explosives in the twin towers on a Sunday night.


What makes you think the Geraldo knows it contains explosives? "Just attach this bag in this location. Geraldo."


@Richwicks
Because until now I thought imploding a building means to strategically place explosive charges to take out the buildings support structure. But according to you it only took one guy to "attach this bag in this location" to bring down the WTC.

You learn so much by talking to conspiracy theorists. Richwicks, you should share your knowledge with the world, especially with those professional demolition workers that work so hard to prep the buildings with explosive charges. A lot of time, effort and money could be saved by just telling them: Attach this bag in this location. Done!
21   porkchopXpress   2021 Apr 6, 8:58am  

The problem is that sheeple who don't earnestly spend the time to research this objectively, become the ones who say "oh boy, get out your tin foil hat...here's a conspiracy theorist". The Establishment, Deep State, CIA, MSM, etc. have done an amazing job of brainwashing enough of the public to squash any minority ideas as conspiracy theories. If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.

I grew up in a strict religion and went through a significant "red pill" experience to get out of the brainwashing I had experienced my whole life. Once you've been through that once in your life, you realize that you can never blindly trust organized thought ever again. Some of the responses here indicate that those individuals may have never been "red-pilled" in their lives, which is unfortunate.
22   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 6, 9:53am  

porkchopexpress says
I grew up in a strict religion and went through a significant "red pill" experience to get out of the brainwashing I had experienced my whole life. Once you've been through that once in your life, you realize that you can never blindly trust organized thought ever again. Some of the responses here indicate that those individuals may have never been "red-pilled" in their lives, which is unfortunate.


That is def. a very good point. With religious groups it can get gnarly. Some victims never recover from the brainwashing and they are basically zombies that always feel guilty. I had someone that suffered from that in my extended fam. ....it didnt end well.

Conspiracy theories can be fun. And Some people just want to believe it and when you ask some questions they get defensive or the entire thing turns into an even crazier story. Just look at my conversation with richwicks..... WTC was taken down by one bag of explosives and the guy who planted it didnt even know it. I had a good laugh!
23   WookieMan   2021 Apr 6, 9:59am  

porkchopexpress says
have done an amazing job of brainwashing enough of the public to squash any minority ideas as conspiracy theories. If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.

Always question for sure. I still can't wrap my head around 9/11. Certain days I think it was an inside job, some days I'm like nah.

I look at the smaller things and not the buildings themselves. I've sat in the cockpit of a 737 (can't remember what models crashed on 9/11). Either way, it is quite the feat to get 2-3 EXTRA dudes into a cockpit to REMOVE the captain and first officer from their positions. That and 100+ passengers just are cool with a hi-jacking with the small risk of being cut by a razor blade. No ex-military on the plane or at least someone of physical strength that could overtake them?

The outcome matters, but the stage of events leading up to it are more bizarre. I fly enough, if I see commotion on a plane I get involved. Only happened once or twice, and strangely enough it's women, but I find it hard to believe that every one just sat there besides the Pennsylvania flight. Even then the Muslim shit heads somehow still were able to manipulate the plane and crash it.

Can dispute engineering and demolition tactics until we're out of breath, but what I've mentioned above is by far more strange. Give it a shot and try to pull a 150-250lbs man out of an airplane cockpit. Good luck. You cut and kill them they're dead weight. Obviously no one survived any of the crashes so there will never be proof as to what happened. I think that's where people should be looking.
24   porkchopXpress   2021 Apr 6, 10:49am  

WookieMan says
Can dispute engineering and demolition tactics until we're out of breath, but what I've mentioned above is by far more strange.
Right. There are way too many anomalies outside of the science/physics of it all to just accept the company line.
25   HeadSet   2021 Apr 6, 12:39pm  

WookieMan says
That and 100+ passengers just are cool with a hi-jacking with the small risk of being cut by a razor blade. No ex-military on the plane or at least someone of physical strength that could overtake them?

Yes, because up to that time, the word was "cooperate with hi-jackers and eventually all will be released." Do not forget all the hi-jacks to Cuba and by the PLO types that had passengers released safely, and even the DB Cooper bit. But after 9-11, you are correct, anyone who tries to hijack an aircraft will get mobbed, as what happened with the shoe bomber and a couple others.
26   Ceffer   2021 Apr 6, 12:56pm  

I don't dismiss conspiracy theories. I table them until I have time to study them and compare information. Yes, 9/11 was a false flag generated by Bush, Cheney, the dual citizenship neocons, Mossad, and likely the usual suspects of the City of London and MI6 to unleash the American military to wreak havoc in the Middle East.

The WTC was a huge albatross losing money because it was an asbestos liability nightmare. Apparently, charges were set up in place by teams ostensibly inspecting the building, likely disguised as inspectors through the maintenance areas. It was just a little nothing to blow up the building with people inside and create the subsequent public health disaster. The US Corporation of the Foreign City State of Washington DC thanks them for their noble sacrifice.
27   WookieMan   2021 Apr 6, 1:16pm  

HeadSet says
"cooperate with hi-jackers and eventually all will be released."

lol. I was too young at that time. Noticed it a bit as a kid and remember some news clips.

You fuck with a plane I'm on now, good luck walking away unless you're some master mixed martial artist. I'll take the risk even if you are. Kill me, but you ain't killing a plane full of people around me. Maybe the crying baby can be tossed out ;)

This is again why I question 9/11 to an extent. Everything starts with an initial reaction. The initial reaction on 4 planes, regardless of what was going on in the moment with other hi-jacks doesn't make any sense. Maybe terrorist got lucky that day? Hard to believe. Maybe no one was on the planes? How would any of us know unless we knew someone on the plane?

Also, what's the point of hitting 2 office towers and part of the Pentagon is a country with 300M+ people? I look at the why and not the how if that makes sense? Why did a third building collapse is of no consequence to my view point. Why was this even allowed to happen? Maybe ATC was slow to react on the first plane? The 2nd plane? That's very hard to believe. Given the history of hi-jackings it's likely there were code words you could pass off to ATC. It wasn't the 80's anymore.

I don't know. My biggest beef with 9/11 is how you get control of 4 airplanes controlled by people willing to die after training in a tiny Cessna. Maybe one plane, but 4? The Pentagon luck with perfect glide slope into a building and not an airport? No ATC warning until is was way too late? Way too many obvious failures for what is supposed to be the most advance country in the world.

I won't even discuss the buildings until someone can point out these massive flaws. The narrative leading up to buildings collapsing is the part people should be focused on. Figure out the lie there before worrying about structural engineering. There's a reason there is a narrative on the buildings and not the people and plot.
28   socal2   2021 Apr 6, 2:55pm  

WookieMan says
I don't know. My biggest beef with 9/11 is how you get control of 4 airplanes controlled by people willing to die after training in a tiny Cessna.


If shady government operatives can take months and months to successfully rig explosives all throughout the WTC complex without anyone noticing - why the fuck wouldn't they just make it look like massive truck bombs in the parking garage with some other backpack bombs peppered throughout the building? Why would the conspirators create a scheme so complicated and crazy that it required the successful hijacking of 4 airplanes and successfully crashing 3 of the 4 into massive buildings? What would have happened if a couple of the other plane passengers fought back like flight 1993? Would these conspirators then have to sneak back into the WTC to remove all the explosives?

Islamists tried to take down the WTC in 1993 using a truck bomb, hoping that they could implode one tower and have it knock into the other. Was that a black flag operation by the US Government too?

Why was Bin Laden and Ayman Al-Zawahiri all taking credit for 9/11 within hours of the attack? Are they all part of the big scheme to let Bush and Haliburton "steal" Iraq's oil?

Look how much work, drilling and effort it takes to rig a much smaller building for implosion. It just beggars belief that this could have been done without ANYONE noticing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0zArm4FR1Y
29   porkchopXpress   2021 Apr 6, 4:19pm  

socal2 says
why the fuck wouldn't they just make it look like massive truck bombs in the parking garage with some other backpack bombs peppered throughout the building?
Two words...Patriot Act. What's more scary to the American public? Truck bombs or hijacked planes flying into skyscrapers? In fact, you kind of made the point of the "conspiracy theorists". If this was truly contrived by terrorists and not an inside job, it would've been way easier for terrorists to explode truck bombs vs hijacking planes and flying them into buildings.
30   Onvacation   2021 Apr 6, 4:21pm  

socal2 says
Look how much work, drilling and effort it takes to rig a much smaller building for implosion. It just beggars belief that this could have been done without ANYONE noticing.

You're right it couldn't have been explosives that dropped the 57 story steel frame skyscraper WTC7 into a massive twisted pile of cut beams and dust. The government story is that WTC7 fell because several hours of office fires weakened some beams that caused a cascade of failures that had the building falling as you can see in the movie above.

Look at the movie. Planned implosion? Or office fires?

Occams razor! It had to be office fires!
31   Onvacation   2021 Apr 6, 4:22pm  

"You can't wake people pretending to sleep."
32   Patrick   2021 Apr 6, 5:07pm  

socal2 says
Don’t make excuses for Islamists!



No problem there, I am certain that the planes were flown by Saudi Islamic assholes.

I'm just not sure that that's all there is to it.
33   socal2   2021 Apr 6, 5:24pm  

porkchopexpress says
Two words...Patriot Act. What's more scary to the American public? Truck bombs or hijacked planes flying into skyscrapers?


I am pretty sure they still would have been able to get the Patriot Act passed and troops in Afghanistan if they took down the WTC without the airplanes.

Again, what's the point of the planes? It is so massively complicated and needlessly risky if the whole plan was to use explosives to take down the WTC. Did the "insiders" have to secretly remove explosives from the building that flight 93 was supposed to hit?

porkchopexpress says
If this was truly contrived by terrorists and not an inside job, it would've been way easier for terrorists to explode truck bombs vs hijacking planes and flying them into buildings.


Islamists already tried truck bombs at the WTC it in 1993 and it didn't work.
34   socal2   2021 Apr 6, 5:39pm  

Onvacation says
You're right it couldn't have been explosives that dropped the 57 story steel frame skyscraper WTC7 into a massive twisted pile of cut beams and dust. The government story is that WTC7 fell because several hours of office fires weakened some beams that caused a cascade of failures that had the building falling as you can see in the movie above.


Do you have any idea how HEAVY building structures are........especially a building with 110 stories like the WTC?

WTC 2 was hit between the 75th and 85th floors knocking down a massive number of support beams with the initial impact. That puts 35 stories of massive weight above the impact zone that is already blown out with more damage from the fires burning and weakening the remaining support beams. How is it shocking or hard to believe that 35 stories of massive weight will pancake down and destroy the whole building (and damage surrounding buildings like WTC7 when so much of the foundation below was knocked out by the plane impact?
35   Onvacation   2021 Apr 6, 6:22pm  

socal2 says
How is it shocking or hard to believe that 35 stories of massive weight will pancake down and destroy the whole building (and damage surrounding buildings like WTC7 when so much of the foundation below was knocked out by the plane impact?

Go read the official story. It was fires that fell all three towers. Go read the report and tell me you BELIEVE it.

Experts have analyzed the demolitions and there is little doubt that the buildings were intentionally destroyed by explosives.
36   Robert Sproul   2021 Apr 6, 7:15pm  

WookieMan says
but fly into Midway in Chicago. Hitting a building the size of the pentagon is what you have to do or you're on Cicero Ave. Commercial airline pilots could do it no problem.

Who the Hell knows? You have to consider though, planes coming into Midway are coming in at landing speeds, aided by approach radar, with calm experienced pilots trained re: that particular airport.
These fuck-wits were coming in at cruising speed (roughly 600' per second), picking out the target visually. It seems like it would be pretty easy to miss. Instead they hit the 70’ target dead on.
I also find it very odd that there is not one photo of the plane on its approach. Nobody in the vicinity had a damn camera?
37   richwicks   2021 Apr 6, 7:30pm  

Robert Sproul says
I also find it very odd that there is not one photo of the plane on its approach. Nobody in the vicinity had a damn camera?


Surveillance footage from a gas station was found, and then left as classified evidence.

You know how it's easy to determine that the government itself had Kennedy murdered? Because there's still classified files about it. Same way you know that 9/11 was a false flag.
38   socal2   2021 Apr 6, 7:36pm  

Onvacation says
Go read the official story. It was fires that fell all three towers. Go read the report and tell me you BELIEVE it.

Experts have analyzed the demolitions and there is little doubt that the buildings were intentionally destroyed by explosives.


It wasn't just fires that took down the 2 main Trade Towers, it was the impact of the massive commercial airliners destroying several main support beams that were supporting the weight of the stories above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FVAzn1Yuz8


Also, can you show me any experts who can explain how anyone could rig these massive OCCUPIED buildings without anyone seeing a thing? Not a single person out of the 200,000 daily visitors and 50,000 workers saw a thing out of the ordinary like dudes drilling hundreds of holes into support structures, planting explosives and running miles and miles of cabling?

9/11 conspiracy theories aren't exactly new. You would think we would have some reasonable physical evidence or whistle blowers by now instead of the same crank "experts" making the same claims over the same video for the past 20 years.

Heck - how did they even set off the explosives without direct cabling daisy chained with all the other explosives so the timing would be perfect? Did they run cable and set up detonators a half mile away into some secret building so someone could light the explosives and not get crushed by the falling buildings?
39   PaisleyPattern   2021 Apr 6, 8:28pm  

The official 911 narrative is ridiculous. I spent quite a bit of time looking into it, my opinion is there is no way it happened the way they say it did. Since then, whenever I meet someone who I consider intelligent and thoughtful, I asked them what they think about 911 as a litmus test to see how open minded they are and how much they look into world events.
40   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 6, 8:29pm  

socal2 says
You would think we would have some reasonable physical evidence or whistle blowers by now instead of the same crank "experts" making the same claims over the same video for the past 20 years.


Socal2 you are spot on :) Couldnt have said it better.

It would take an armada of resources and manpower to pull this off. It doesnt matter to the conspiracy theorists that there isnt a single piece of evidence and not a single whistleblower. People just want to believe this crap without any proof. You cant fix that by trying to reason with them. Its like trying to convince a brainwashed, religious cult. Total waste of time but thanks anyways for your comments!
41   Onvacation   2021 Apr 6, 8:45pm  

socal2 says


Also, can you show me any experts who can explain how anyone could rig these massive OCCUPIED buildings without anyone seeing a thing?

Yeah. Google it.

Oh wait, Google is part of the conspiracy. Try duckduckgo.

I don't want to debate the minutiae again. Anyone that has looked at the evidence and accepts the official story is lying, delusional, or suffering from cognitive dissonance at the thought that elements of our our government could be so evil; Some other reason?
42   PaisleyPattern   2021 Apr 6, 8:49pm  

Bitcoin says
socal2 says
You would think we would have some reasonable physical evidence or whistle blowers by now instead of the same crank "experts" making the same claims over the same video for the past 20 years.


Socal2 you are spot on :) Couldnt have said it better.

It would take an armada of resources and manpower to pull this off. It doesnt matter to the conspiracy theorists that there isnt a single piece of evidence and not a single whistleblower. People just want to believe this crap without any proof. You cant fix that by trying to reason with them. Its like trying to convince a brainwashed, religious cult. Total waste of time but thanks anyways for your comments!


Bitcoin, it’s obvious to anyone with some intelligence and an open mind that the narrative is complete bullshit.There is proof, and there are whistleblowers. Unintelligent, loudmouths like you aren’t worth debating with, it’s a complete waste of energy.
43   porkchopXpress   2021 Apr 6, 8:55pm  

Hell, there were thousands of whistleblowers saying bad or fraudulent behavior occurred during the 2020 election, but all of that meant NOTHING.

Our government, MSM, Big Tech and most big corporations are fucking corrupt as hell and absolutely conspire to commit crimes and cover them up.
44   PaisleyPattern   2021 Apr 6, 9:01pm  

Any public figure who publicly stated any skepticism of the official 9/11 narrative was promptly discredited and lost their career.
45   Onvacation   2021 Apr 6, 9:04pm  

PaisleyPattern says
Unintelligent, loudmouths like you aren’t worth debating with, it’s a complete waste of energy.

Ignore really works.

The debate is over. 9/11 was to end the 4th amendment. Wuhan took care of the 1st amendment.

All that is left is to clean up the dissidents.

And that pesky 2nd amendment.
46   PaisleyPattern   2021 Apr 6, 9:21pm  

Onvacation says
PaisleyPattern says
Unintelligent, loudmouths like you aren’t worth debating with, it’s a complete waste of energy.

Ignore really works.

The debate is over. 9/11 was to end the 4th amendment. Wuhan took care of the 1st amendment.

All that is left is to clean up the dissidents.

And that pesky 2nd amendment.


It’s always been so easy to dupe the majority of people in the world. People who try to stand up to these types of things are pounced on by the establishment so quickly. Pretty tough situation.It’s possible an underground resistance will develop that will use guerrilla warfare tactics to take revenge and take pot shots at people who can be identified as being behind these events.
47   Patrick   2021 Apr 6, 10:25pm  

PaisleyPattern says
Any public figure who publicly stated any skepticism of the official 9/11 narrative was promptly discredited and lost their career.



Bingo!

Most public figures are extremely concerned with what their peers think of them for exactly this reason, and so they don't even attempt to think for themselves.

https://patrick.net/post/1338725/2021-04-07-the-elite-are-the-most-likely-to-censor
48   WookieMan   2021 Apr 7, 2:23am  

Bitcoin says
It would take an armada of resources and manpower to pull this off. It doesnt matter to the conspiracy theorists that there isnt a single piece of evidence and not a single whistleblower. People just want to believe this crap without any proof. You cant fix that by trying to reason with them. Its like trying to convince a brainwashed, religious cult. Total waste of time but thanks anyways for your comments!

What reasoning have you done though? If Trump has done anything, it's to question the narrative we've been given for anything coming from government.

I'm personally on both sides of the fence on 9/11. There are way too many things that had to go perfect for it to work. As in hijacking 4 planes and 3 successfully hitting targets. That's kind of undeniable.

There's also luck and the Islamist A-holes pulled it off. And maybe the narrative is correct. It's okay to question both sides. Planting explosives in multiple massive buildings is highly unlikely. It's also highly unlikely that these guys were trained well enough to basically hit 3 targets, with no passenger interference, remove 2 pilots from each plane cockpit and visually hit the targets.

I agree with you on whistleblowers. There would have been one. But money and threat of your life or your families life can easily shut people up. We've just printed an extra $5T in the last year because of a virus. On top of the money we were already printing.

I don't care how moral anyone is, give 100 people $10M per person and threat of death if they speak, they'll do your bidding. US government can easily dish out $1B in a heartbeat and no one would notice.

All that said I honestly don't know what to believe. We'll probably never know. For the families that lost loved ones, that actually happened and sucks. So I get dragging the topic on is shitty. That's generally the reason I don't discuss it much, but maybe that was by design. Gotta question everything is my take. Once someone calls one a conspiracy theorist, it's likely for a reason.
49   richwicks   2021 Apr 7, 3:40am  

socal2 says
Also, can you show me any experts who can explain how anyone could rig these massive OCCUPIED buildings without anyone seeing a thing?


20 years later and people still don't realize that the WTC buildings were never fully occupied. They were super expensive to rent office space in, and they were old, asbestos, filled buildings. The reason ONE building replaced all 5 is because they didn't need that much floor space.

Neil Bush has a security company that controlled security of the WTC as well.

If you've not looked into it, that's the only reason you don't find anything suspicious. I can list ton of weird anomolies, like Lucky Larry Silverstein who always had breakfast in the WTC except that ONE time. Silverstein just bought a long term lease on the buildings before, and just 6 months before the attack, DRASTICALLY raised insurance coverage.

I have gone thorugh this so many times trying to get people to see my point of view, to BELIEVE me when I repeat facts about the day, to check what I've said over - I'm just done with it. I can barely convince a well educated republican that Saddam Hussein didn't have a weapons of mass destruction program, and George W. Bush KNEW he didn't today.

People prefer their innocence. They don't like having their world turned upside down. We're going into full blown tyranny because people just won't fucking see reality, and realize the US federal government is THAT evil, THAT corrupt - there's no pushback, so they'll just get worse and worse and worse and worse. I genuinely feel sorry for the next generation.
50   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 7, 6:34am  

WookieMan says
Bitcoin says
It would take an armada of resources and manpower to pull this off. It doesnt matter to the conspiracy theorists that there isnt a single piece of evidence and not a single whistleblower. People just want to believe this crap without any proof. You cant fix that by trying to reason with them. Its like trying to convince a brainwashed, religious cult. Total waste of time but thanks anyways for your comments!

What reasoning


Exactly, its impossible to reason with conspiracy theorists. They dont want to look at it objectively. They want it to be a conspiracy. You can lead a donkey to the water but you cant make her drink.
51   PaisleyPattern   2021 Apr 7, 7:15am  

Bitcoin says
WookieMan says
Bitcoin says
It would take an armada of resources and manpower to pull this off. It doesnt matter to the conspiracy theorists that there isnt a single piece of evidence and not a single whistleblower. People just want to believe this crap without any proof. You cant fix that by trying to reason with them. Its like trying to convince a brainwashed, religious cult. Total waste of time but thanks anyways for your comments!

What reasoning


Exactly, its impossible to reason with conspiracy theorists. They dont want to look at it objectively. They want it to be a conspiracy. You can lead a donkey to the water but you cant make her drink.



Here’s an idea, why don’t you go through all the points that are typically brought up by 9/11 skeptics, and refute them with logic. You haven’t done anything like that ,you just make a blanket denial, you say it would take an “armada of resources” to have set up the 911 as a false flag. Well. the people who do things like this have unlimited resources, it’s the same organizations that attack other countries and have 15 year wars that cost trillions of dollars. Resources are not a problem
52   Onvacation   2021 Apr 7, 7:39am  

richwicks says
People prefer their innocence. They don't like having their world turned upside down. We're going into full blown tyranny because people just won't fucking see reality, and realize the US federal government is THAT evil, THAT corrupt

I had a hard time wrapping my head around how my beloved America could have such evil people. Four years of Trump has exposed that that America I have loved my whole life is just an ideal.
53   richwicks   2021 Apr 7, 7:53am  

Onvacation says
I had a hard time wrapping my head around how my beloved America could have such evil people. Four years of Trump has exposed that that America I have loved my whole life is just an ideal.


Part of the point of electing Trump was juts a big Fuck You to the establishment. The country basically said, we'll elect anybody other than one of your career political fraud fucks.

Now a bonus on top of that, is that Trump then started to point out corruption, and propaganda within our media system and our "news" went full propaganda. The hypocrisy of the government became very blatant as well. The FIB would prosecute the smallest, most insignificant crime or even make them up, while they lied to the FISA courts, blatantly violated laws, and refused to investigate blatantly obvious crimes.

But the icing on the cake was that the establishment couldn't regain control so they either took advantage of this "pandemic" or arranged it (in part) to steal an election.
54   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 7, 8:18am  

PaisleyPattern says
Here’s an idea


I've got an even better idea. Just read the smart comments by smart people from socal:

"socal2 says
You would think we would have some reasonable physical evidence or whistle blowers by now instead of the same crank "experts" making the same claims over the same video for the past 20 years."
55   richwicks   2021 Apr 7, 8:46am  

Bitcoin says
"socal2 says
You would think we would have some reasonable physical evidence or whistle blowers by now instead of the same crank "experts" making the same claims over the same video for the past 20 years."


There was molten metal at the site for months. That doesn't happen with office fires. It wasn't just cherry red hot, it was molten. You could see it during excavation.

For all we know, the WTC buildings have been rigged for controlled demolition since 1993 after the WTC bombing, as an contingency in case the buildings had to be brought down in a controlled demolition instead of allowing them to topple over - and nobody was told, and it was done secretly.

I get tired of trying to explain that a lot of hypothesis that are thrown out there are meant to lead people down false paths. You don't have to understand what was done or how it was done, all you have to realize is you've been lied to. Whenever there's a false flag event, they will IMMEDIATELY announce who is "responsible". Suddenly they can find and identify a person in minutes.

Come on, they found the passports of the supposed hijakers on 9/11. Do you really a passport could go through an explosion that ultimately took down a sky scraper?
56   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 7, 8:56am  

PaisleyPattern says
it’s the same organizations that attack other countries and have 15 year wars


I dont mind targeted drone strikes on Muslim terrorists. The world is a better place without them.
57   socal2   2021 Apr 7, 9:14am  

richwicks says
Now a bonus on top of that, is that Trump then started to point out corruption, and propaganda within our media system and our "news" went full propaganda. The hypocrisy of the government became very blatant as well. The FIB would prosecute the smallest, most insignificant crime or even make them up, while they lied to the FISA courts, blatantly violated laws, and refused to investigate blatantly obvious crimes.


I am totally with you in believing the corrupt and venal nature of our Federal government. Where we part ways is that I think you give waaaay too much credit to the competency and smarts of the US Federal Government. It is not like the movies. Look at how ham-fisted and amateurish all the shit the FBI and DOJ tried to pull on Trump with Russian collusion crap. Most people and the Conservative media were able to see through the lies almost instantly and ferret out hack FBI officials forging documents and using debunked dossiers as evidence.

Yet we are to believe the US government staged 9/11 so they could justify the Patriot Act, increase military spending and provide an excuse to invade Afghanistan (for what?) and invade Iraq to "steal" their oil - right? Yet these same masterminds that can manage to pull off such a complex plot with a billion moving parts like 9/11 without leaving a trace of evidence, were too stupid or were unable to stage some WMD stockpiles in Iraq to keep this whole 9/11 scam going?
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socal2 says
Yet we are to believe the US government staged 9/11 so they could justify the Patriot Act, increase military spending and provide an excuse to invade Afghanistan (for what?) and invade Iraq to "steal" their oil - right? Yet these same masterminds that can manage to pull off such a complex plot with a billion moving parts like 9/11 without leaving a trace of evidence, were too stupid or were unable to stage some WMD stockpiles in Iraq to keep this whole 9/11 scam going?


Holy shit. Highly entertaining to see this guy outsmarting our conspiracy theorists.....Let's see what crazy-tin-foil-hat explanation they come up with! Nice work Socal2.

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