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Investing in Australian $ or the Australian market.


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2011 Apr 10, 4:56pm   11,548 views  29 comments

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Australian dollar is up again. Is anyone buying Australian dollars this month?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=FXA (ETF)
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=FXA+Basic+Chart&t=3m (three month graph)

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9   American in Japan   2011 May 10, 4:15pm  

Australian dollar is up above $1.08 $US again...

Where will the Australian dollar go from here?

10   American in Japan   2011 Jun 25, 7:50pm  

Australian dollar around 105.5 $US...

11   uomo_senza_nome   2011 Jun 26, 2:48am  

You could short the Australian banks...I think there's Common wealth bank and West pac bank that have enormous exposure to the housing mortgages on their portfolio...and these banks are way overvalued, when considering the risk they have taken on.

Steven Keen (debtdeflation.com, Australian economist) suggested this on Peter Schiff's radio show once.

12   American in Japan   2011 Aug 9, 12:57pm  

The Australian Dollar has taken a hit in the last week.

13   American in Japan   2011 Aug 30, 10:33am  

The Australian dollar is inching back up.... over $107(US).

14   theoakman   2011 Aug 30, 11:17pm  

I think the Aussie Dollar is going to have major problems with China faultering. They'll turn to the printing press and send it down. I'm not much for trading currencies though. Long precious metals seems to be all the insurance one has needed against currency moves.

15   FortWayne   2011 Aug 31, 12:47am  

Australia is in for some serious pain. Their housing bubble isn't sustainable anymore since no suckers left to play the game. They'll either let foreclosures happen or try to print money inflating their currency to worthless.

It was a prison colony when Brits kicked them out, it probably will get back there again.

17   American in Japan   2011 Aug 31, 1:51am  

@FortWayne

Got an axe to grind with the Australians?

18   FortWayne   2011 Aug 31, 2:30am  

American in Japan says

@FortWayne

Got an axe to grind with the Australians?

Just with their government.

19   Patrick   2011 Aug 31, 5:45am  

Seems to me it might be a good bet to buy Australian government bonds at this point.

When their housing bubble gets seriously deflated, they are probably going to lower interest rates like the US did. This just mathematically drives up the price of existing bonds.

Of course their currency will fall if their interest rates fall, so your gains would be in nominal Australian dollars, which is fine if you want to spend them in Australia.

Not investment advice, just speculation. Wait, not speculation either. Just, uh, musings or something like that.

20   Clara   2011 Aug 31, 6:11am  

When so-and-so tell you "look into this, this is good investment", that shit is most likely overvalued already.

21   FortWayne   2011 Aug 31, 7:48am  


When their housing bubble gets seriously deflated, they are probably going to lower interest rates like the US did. This just mathematically drives up the price of existing bonds.

Of course their currency will fall if their interest rates fall, so your gains would be in nominal Australian dollars, which is fine if you want to spend them in Australia.

That actually sounds like a good idea, at least I do expect their bubble to pop in next few years. I just don't really understand how bonds work to make that call.

22   American in Japan   2012 Aug 16, 4:46pm  

How will the Australian dollar fare in the next 3 years?...

23   uomo_senza_nome   2012 Aug 17, 3:51am  

American in Japan says

How will the Australian dollar fare in the next 3 years?...

Australia is a commodity based economy and commodities will fare strong when all currencies are weakened competitively (currency wars - everybody wants a weaker currency than everybody else and therefore they all weaken at different rates over time).

All currencies will be devalued, because no currency can be allowed to become too strong (severe deflation). Lessons can be learned from Swiss Franc (CHF) for e.g.. It is pegged at 1.20 to the Euro.

We are in a currency war and those who don't fight, lose - Colombian Finance Minister.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-13/currency-flows-reversing-china-to-colombia-as-trade-slows.html

To answer your question: relatively it can do well (say against the euro or the dollar), but when measured against hard assets - it will also lose value over time.

24   American in Japan   2012 Aug 17, 12:41pm  

Thanks for the info.

25   American in Japan   2012 Oct 11, 6:49pm  

Interest rates were lowered again this month...

26   B.A.C.A.H.   2012 Oct 12, 5:30am  

My partner's cousin lives somewhere near Melbourne. The extended family recently "invested" in a SFH rental. Sky was the limit.

Someone in that clan (a CPA) just got riff'ed by the municipality she worked at.

27   Michinaga   2012 Oct 12, 7:52am  

Brentok3 says

You should note that the Australian dollar went to around 60 cents to the US dollar during the 2008-9 crisis.

This is when I put $1000 US into AUD. A nice, safe, easy hedge, and it worked out great. That money is now $1500. A small investment, sure, but that 50% USD-denominated return in just 4 years is fantastic. All my savings accounts pay under 0.5% per year, and I own negligible stock (employer forbids it) -- so it feels very strange to have unearned income like that.

28   curious2   2012 Oct 12, 8:04am  

theoakman says

I bailed on all my Australian investments....

theoakman says

I'm still holding. Biggest winner....

Oz sounds like a magical place where you can have your cake and eat it too.

29   Eman   2012 Oct 12, 12:12pm  

Michinaga says

Brentok3 says

You should note that the Australian dollar went to around 60 cents to the US dollar during the 2008-9 crisis.

This is when I put $1000 US into AUD. A nice, safe, easy hedge, and it worked out great. That money is now $1500. A small investment, sure, but that 50% USD-denominated return in just 4 years is fantastic. All my savings accounts pay under 0.5% per year, and I own negligible stock (employer forbids it) -- so it feels very strange to have unearned income like that.

Nice. Congrats. 50% return in 4 years is great.

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