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The Illinois, California Exodus


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2019 Jun 17, 10:58pm   47,001 views  293 comments

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People fleeing to Florida, Texas, South Carolina.

http://myuhaulstory.com/2019/01/02/uhaul-names-top-50-growth-states-for-2018/

Almost twice as much to leave California for Texas than Vice-Versa:
https://lightfromtheright.com/2012/11/22/latest-haul-index-shows-californians-leaving-for-texas/

When you bring a U-Haul back to California, you do the company a favor, so another Middle Class family can leave for Texas.

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198   WookieMan   2023 Jun 3, 5:59am  

Patrick says





Lol. Uhaul is the best metric in my opinion for many things, mainly migration within the country. Your city losing population and the city you're moving into that could be in a bubble and you're buying at peak.

We have two small Uhaul gas station type setups. For 7 years they basically just stopped operating them. Now we have a surplus of trucks. All of this is obvious and visible. People are moving to rural areas in my region is my anecdotal evidence since I can see it. That means there's a lot of one way movers put it that way. The trucks keep stacking up. But I think it's in state migration. Say from Oak Park, IL or Chicago to my area. Hell my newish neighbor is a Puerto Rican from Humboldt Park, Chicago

I'm trying to figure out storage units as well. We've had limited new building, 5 houses in a decade, but we have a shit load of storage unit increase over the last 2-3 years in a small town. 30-40 unit increase with no new building basically. It's confusing. I can see the locks. It's at 100% occupancy. $75/mo-$125/mo for about 100 units. Maybe people just have more shit.
199   porkchopXpress   2023 Jun 3, 6:20am  

clambo says


Any famous or rich person who gives a reason besides taxes for departing California is lying.

California is superior to most states in most ways; it's just taxing people too much.
The vaccine mandate bullshit was the final straw for me, but I already had one foot out the door. I just used the mandates as an excuse to convince my family to leave. It's almost one year since we left San Diego for Tennessee, and I'm so fucking happy.
200   The_Deplorable   2023 Jun 3, 9:52am  

porkchopexpress says
"It's almost one year since we left San Diego for Tennessee, and I'm so fucking happy."

Great - we have a poster from Tennessee - the only state in the union where Ivermectin is an over the counter medication!
Porkchop, tell us about Ivermectin... Is it available in grocery stores? How much does it cost?

I ask because these kind of searches on the Internet are blocked.
201   Patrick   2023 Jun 4, 9:23am  

The_Deplorable says

I ask because these kind of searches on the Internet are blocked.


You mean Google, right? Or are the honest search engines like https://search.brave.com/ and https://yandex.com/ also blocking those searches?

If so, this seems like an opportunity. I could have a thread about where to buy ivermectin and how much it costs.
202   Patrick   2023 Jun 4, 9:24am  

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/allstate-insurance-state-farm-california/


Allstate, one of the nation's largest insurance companies, has joined State Farm in deciding to halt sales of property and casualty coverage to new customers in California, saying it's too pricey to underwrite policies in the state which has seen thousands of natural disasters in recent years.

Allstate quietly stopped issuing new policies in California months ago, but didn't announce the move until Friday. Allstate was the fourth-largest insurer in California, according to the most recent 2021 state data. It earned $4.3 billion in premiums that year and incurred $2.6 billion in losses.
203   The_Deplorable   2023 Jun 4, 9:54am  

Patrick says
"You mean Google, right?"

Yes! And DuckDuckGo, Yahoo and Yandex. In fact there was no response from DuckDuckGo and Yandex (blocked?)

"If so, this seems like an opportunity. I could have a thread about where to buy ivermectin and how much it costs."


Patrick this is an excellent idea. Please do! We have a ton of medical research that proves that Ivermectin wipes out Covid, that it removes the Spike Proteins of the mRNA vaccines and (potentially) cures the vaccine injuries, medical reports that it cures some cancers and in a nutshell, this is an inexpensive and very safe medication!
204   The_Deplorable   2023 Jun 4, 9:11pm  

The_Deplorable says
"there was no response from... Yandex (blocked?)"

I tried Yandex again and ended up with only one site -- https://www.ivermectin.com/order.php -- selling Ivermectin (it also sells HCQ and Azithromycin) with the following prices:

Ivermectin: 50 / 12 mg tablets for $115 -- $2.30 per tablet.
Ivermectin: 100 / 12 mg tablets for $190 -- $1.90 per tablet.

Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate (HCQ): 100 / 200 mg tablets for $250 -- $2.50 per tablet.

They also sell Azithromycin which is an antibiotic (that requires prescription) and this is a red flag for me.

It looks like we are still blocked from reaching the numerous websites in Tennessee that sell Ivermectin.
205   WookieMan   2023 Jun 5, 4:15am  

Patrick says

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/allstate-insurance-state-farm-california/



Allstate, one of the nation's largest insurance companies, has joined State Farm in deciding to halt sales of property and casualty coverage to new customers in California, saying it's too pricey to underwrite policies in the state which has seen thousands of natural disasters in recent years.

Allstate quietly stopped issuing new policies in California months ago, but didn't announce the move until Friday. Allstate was the fourth-largest insurer in California, according to the most recent 2021 state data. It earned $4.3 billion in premiums that year and incurred $2.6 billion in losses.


My home state homies are even moving out of CA. Although they may have pulled the plug on CA a year early. You guys are pretty saturated I thought? I don't know the fire game there. No one at either company looked at the snowpack? Trees/vegetation are gonna soak up a lot of run off I imagine. Less likelihood of fires from what I've heard.

We're in a semi drought here. Haven't had any real measurable rain in about 3 weeks. Less than 1/4". Outside of golf courses and rich people, we generally don't water here. Things are browning up pretty good right now lawn wise. 10 day forecast looks like shit too. One chance of rain. By the end of this week I think farmers are going to be freaking out a bit. I might start watering today as they're likely going to put odd/even day restrictions out which is rare. More for the water tower pressure, though grassland can catch on fire out here.
206   zzyzzx   2023 Jun 5, 5:14am  

WookieMan says

We're in a semi drought here. Haven't had any real measurable rain in about 3 weeks. Less than 1/4". Outside of golf courses and rich people, we generally don't water here. Things are browning up pretty good right now lawn wise. 10 day forecast looks like shit too. One chance of rain.


It's the same in Maryland.
207   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2023 Jun 5, 5:57am  

WookieMan says

Patrick says


That’s just 150,000 taxpayers in a state of 40 million, so even a trickle of departures has a potentially huge impact on the budget.

Been saying it. You guys will likely be fine. But the quality of living is going to go to absolute shit. The climate and scenery is too good that people will stick it out. But the people with millions of dollars that can move to Scottsdale, AZ, Texas, FL, etc. they will.

CA is late to the party and it's going to take a massive toll as the article mentions on tax revenue. Cuts and tax raises are coming. Look at the IL and specifically Chicago playbook for exodus. You're going to be stuck with a bunch of poor, service sector workers that don't pay taxes.


People who can move elsewhere and stay in California only for the weather are absolute fools. In Yiddish, a putz.

The crime, the homeless, the taxes, the amount of government regulations, all conspires to make California a worse place. The only people truly happy with the state of things are homos who are happy they can have PDA’s even though they rarely do, and blind leftists who haven’t yet been crime victims or are still dumb enough to believe the BLM chow meow and hope that a black man comes and rapes their spouse.

I can’t wait to leave. For starters my income tax in a no income tax state will be reduced to 40% of what I currently pay due to no state income tax and a lower gross income. That one is pretty huge. Owning firearms without having them registered and being able to conceal carry are also huge pluses. Not having to rent might be really nice as well. Would not be looking forward to moving if I was in my 70’s or 80’s. And having a place twice or three times the size of the place I currently rent would be great as well. Finally not having to worry about what stupid thing the state legislature can conjure up next will also be a huge win.
208   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2023 Jun 5, 5:59am  

porkchopexpress says

clambo says



Any famous or rich person who gives a reason besides taxes for departing California is lying.

California is superior to most states in most ways; it's just taxing people too much.
The vaccine mandate bullshit was the final straw for me, but I already had one foot out the door. I just used the mandates as an excuse to convince my family to leave. It's almost one year since we left San Diego for Tennessee, and I'm so fucking happy.


Good for you. Yeah mandating a vaccine that doesn’t work as advertised only smacks of tyranny for tyranny’s sake. That’s one that still baffles me.
209   Ceffer   2023 Jun 5, 10:59am  

Patrick says

Allstate quietly stopped issuing new policies in California months ago, but didn't announce the move until Friday. Allstate was the fourth-largest insurer in California, according to the most recent 2021 state data. It earned $4.3 billion in premiums that year and incurred $2.6 billion in losses.

One arm of Global Corporatocracy informing another? Guess they have some flood and fire mayhem planned for California this year.
211   Patrick   2023 Jun 8, 6:06pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/superman-reaches-limit-with-californias-soft-on-crime-policies-moves-to-nevada/


Dean Cain Reaches Limit with California’s Soft-on-Crime Policies, Moves to Nevada

Former Superman actor Dean Cain is the latest celebrity to tell California politicians to go pound sand.

Cain has moved out of the state over “terrible” policies that have led to surges in crime, taxes, and homelessness.

“I love California,” Cain said in a statement.

“It’s the most beautiful state.

“Everything’s wonderful about it except for the policies.

“The policies are just terrible.

“The fiscal policies, the soft-on-crime policies, the homelessness policies.

“The things that our leaders in California have been doing have driven out anybody who can really afford to get out.

“People are flocking out of there in droves. ...

Cain listed his Malibu home in March, selling the property for $6.25 million last month.
214   HeadSet   2023 Jun 10, 7:27am  

Patrick says

https://slaynews.com/news/rock-music-legend-rod-stewart-reaches-limit-with-toxic-los-angeles-moves-to-england-full-time-report/

Rod Stewart came to America to avoid high British taxes. Maybe California taxes have reached or surpassed the British level so might as well go home.
215   WookieMan   2023 Jun 10, 8:11am  

HeadSet says

Patrick says


https://slaynews.com/news/rock-music-legend-rod-stewart-reaches-limit-with-toxic-los-angeles-moves-to-england-full-time-report/

Rod Stewart came to America to avoid high British taxes. Maybe California taxes have reached or surpassed the British level so might as well go home.

Never been, have no desire, but I can't imagine living in Britain isn't enjoyable outside of high incomes. He looks like a piece of bacon. He should move to Puerto Rico. Tax breaks there federally and territory wise. https://www.districtofcolumbiataxattorney.com/articles/tax-weary-americans-find-haven-in-puerto-rico/

Although you pay taxes in the states you play shows in now that I think about it. But Puerto Rico would be a good location to get that bacon looking crispier and save probably a lot of taxes for his level of wealth and age on investments/cap gains. During hurricane season just stay in CA renting for 3-4 months if not touring.

Sometimes wealthy people boggle my mind with how stupid they are. Hell Trump took this long to move to FL. He still likely draws an income and was paying NY and NYC income taxes on top of federal. Lebron James was an absolute dip shit for leaving the Miami Heat. I don't know Ohio taxes, but going to the Lakers was a financially retarded move. And they can't get to the finals. That's a different topic though.

I guess when you have fuck you money it's different, but saving $100-500M over a lifetime is kind of a lot. Rod Steward could probably buy/build one of the nicest properties in Puerto Rico and hurricane proof the fuck out of it and save potentially millions a year. Not that I'm super wealthy, but housing and specifically income taxes kept us from moving there. Both our jobs would be W-2. Ain't getting out taxes with those jobs.
216   HeadSet   2023 Jun 10, 8:28am  

WookieMan says

But Puerto Rico would be a good location to get that bacon looking crispier

LOL!
217   WookieMan   2023 Jun 10, 9:48am  

HeadSet says

WookieMan says


But Puerto Rico would be a good location to get that bacon looking crispier

LOL!

Have no taste for his music, but I'd potentially go cannibal and eat his skin.... Joking of course. I'll stick to pigs and other meat products that aren't human. Not Rod Stewart. He should make a bacon product though. It would sell. Just put his face on the package. I'm not joking about that. Women (for some reason) would eat it and men would be like "that looks like it could be crispy." Then move to PR and pay little taxes and get crispy. Win win in my world.

Sorry, late night last night. Not hung over, just out of it so my humor/sarcasm might miss today... like it does every day.
219   HeadSet   2023 Jun 11, 6:14pm  

Ah, Ellie Mae Clampett. Who wouldn't want to win one of those church fund raiser picnic basket dates with her?
220   richwicks   2023 Jun 11, 6:22pm  

HeadSet says

Ah, Ellie Mae Clampett. Who wouldn't want to win one of those church fund raiser picnic basket dates with her?


Donna Douglas didn't age that well, and I think it's because she was typecast, and also tried to remain looking young all her life with plastic surgery.



221   Ceffer   2023 Jun 11, 6:30pm  

AmericanKulak says


Patrick says

https://slaynews.com/news/rock-music-legend-rod-stewart-reaches-limit-with-toxic-los-angeles-moves-to-england-full-time-report/

HELLUVA nice guy by the way.

"A second source said Stewart, who has eight children by five women, has the full support of all his kids, daughters Sarah Streeter, 59, Kimberly, 43, Ruby, 35, and Renee, 30, and sons Sean, 42, Liam, 28, Alastair and Aiden.

“They all know how happy him and Penny are living there and that is all they want is for their father to be happy,” the source said."

That's code for 'When is this fucking fuck going to fucking DIE ALREADY so we can divvy up his pile? Let's not do anything to upset him and get cut out of the will."
222   Ceffer   2023 Jun 11, 7:26pm  

I remember when Stewart was showing up in Westwood with groupies in tow in fancy sports cars and getting repeated drunk and disorderly and dui. Guess he might have sobered up somewhere along the line.
223   porkchopXpress   2023 Jun 12, 6:04am  

The_Deplorable says


porkchopexpress says

"It's almost one year since we left San Diego for Tennessee, and I'm so fucking happy."

Great - we have a poster from Tennessee - the only state in the union where Ivermectin is an over the counter medication!
Porkchop, tell us about Ivermectin... Is it available in grocery stores? How much does it cost?

I ask because these kind of searches on the Internet are blocked.

Funny you ask. I called my local CVS pharmacy and the guy said Ivermectin is not approved for Covid and said I should be getting vaccinated. CVS is not supplying it for Covid. I called my local Walgreens and the guy said they can't supply it for Covid but that he agrees they should. I realized that each pharmacy decides if they choose to prescribe it. I found a local (non-chain) pharmacy (Medicine Counter Pharmacy) that supplies it and ordered some and now have it. Not cheap but definitely worth having it on hand. I believe anyone can order from them, even outside TN.
224   HeadSet   2023 Jun 12, 9:44am  

porkchopexpress says

Not cheap but definitely worth having it on hand.

How much?
225   stereotomy   2023 Jun 12, 9:48am  

porkchopexpress says

The_Deplorable says

porkchopexpress says

"It's almost one year since we left San Diego for Tennessee, and I'm so fucking happy."

Great - we have a poster from Tennessee - the only state in the union where Ivermectin is an over the counter medication!
Porkchop, tell us about Ivermectin... Is it available in grocery stores? How much does it cost?

I ask because these kind of searches on the Internet are blocked.

Funny you ask. I called my local CVS pharmacy and the guy said Ivermectin is not approved for Covid and said I should be getting vaccinated. CVS is not supplying it for Covid. I called my local Walgreens and the guy said they can't supply it for Covid but that he agrees they should. I realized that each pharmacy decides if they choose to prescribe it. I found a local (non-chain) pharmacy (Medicine Counter Pharmacy) that supplies it and ordered some and now have it. Not cheap but definitely worth having it on hand. I believe anyone can order from them, even outside TN.

If it's more than $1 a pill, you can order from alldaychemist. They're based in India. I thought $1 a pill is on the high side, but they're reliable (haven't had an FDA intercept yet - knock on wood). Food for thought.
226   WookieMan   2023 Jun 12, 10:27am  

HeadSet says

porkchopexpress says


Not cheap but definitely worth having it on hand.

How much?

Rin is not incorrect, so let me start with that with his cocktail of pills. They probably work.

1 - Live healthy and move. Don't be fat.
2 - Standard vitamins and zinc will do you just fine when you get a cold (covid).
3 - Don't take the vax.

Had it once and it was a massive nothing burger outside of having to fly back home from Mexico. Travel days I feel like shit either way so I'm not sure how much was the effects of Covid. Or the idea I knew I had it and it created anxiety. Mind you this was an adult trip so drank too much over 5 days. That could be a mitigating factor.

Rin's stuff probably works great. But if you're under 70 and follow my 3, you'll be fine, in my non-medical opinion.
227   The_Deplorable   2023 Jun 12, 1:25pm  

WookieMan says
"Had it [Covid] once and it was a massive nothing burger outside of having to fly back home from Mexico."

Text in brackets is mine...

Wookie, if you had Covid in Mexico did you look into purchasing Ivermectin and HCQ from Mexico? They are, to my knowledge, over the counter medications... And if you did, how much was it?
228   The_Deplorable   2023 Jun 12, 2:04pm  

Earlier I wrote..."we have a poster from Tennessee...
Porkchop, tell us about Ivermectin... Is it available in grocery stores? How much does it cost?"


porkchopexpress says
"I called my local CVS pharmacy and the guy said Ivermectin is not approved for Covid and said I should be getting vaccinated. CVS is not supplying it for Covid. I called my local Walgreens and the guy said they can't supply it for Covid but that he agrees they should. I realized that each pharmacy decides if they choose to prescribe it."

Porkchop, it sounds to me that that was Big Pharma's reply from Tennessee - which is not surprising!

"I found a local (non-chain) pharmacy (Medicine Counter Pharmacy) that supplies it and ordered some and now have it. Not cheap but definitely worth having it on hand. I believe anyone can order from them, even outside TN."

Thank you.
I found the "Medicine Counter Pharmacy" on the internet -- see https://medicine-counter01.business.site/ -- and found the Ivermectin price too high -- $35 for 5 day treatment. See https://form.jotform.com/221387018183152 And I agree with you "it is "definitely worth having it on hand."

Did you try any grocery stores? Given that Ivermectin is an Over The Counter Medication in Tennessee then people should be able to buy Ivermectin like they buy Aspirin. Is that the case?
229   WookieMan   2023 Jun 12, 3:17pm  

The_Deplorable says

WookieMan says
"Had it [Covid] once and it was a massive nothing burger outside of having to fly back home from Mexico."

Text in brackets is mine...

Wookie, if you had Covid in Mexico did you look into purchasing Ivermectin and HCQ from Mexico? They are, to my knowledge, over the counter medications... And if you did, how much was it?

I didn't look to be honest. Pretty sure I had it before and it was nothing. I tested when I got home. Wife tested the day prior. Nurse friend with us had them. She said don't waste a test if you slept in the same bed, you have it. She was right. Tested positive at home the next day and following.

Bought a blanket because I was freezing, but it resolved itself by the next afternoon/evening. Basic bad cold/minor flu symptoms. Again it was for the wife's 40th so we were imbibing more than usual. But I did test positive twice. For what that's worth....

Not saying Ivermectin won't/doesn't work, I just don't think it's needed really. Unless you have other issues health wise. Basic vitamins and zinc did me well. I was expecting worse. It was a sinus infection with chills for me.
230   Patrick   2023 Jun 15, 11:20am  

https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/watch-california-senator-urges-conservatives-to-flee-the-state-cmc/


California State Senator Scott Wilk advised residents who “love their children” to “flee” the state, citing a new bill that would classify refusal to “affirm” a child’s gender as child abuse. Parents could potentially lose custody of their children if they refuse to support their child’s decision to “transition” to another gender.


231   WookieMan   2023 Jun 15, 1:30pm  

Patrick says

https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/watch-california-senator-urges-conservatives-to-flee-the-state-cmc/



California State Senator Scott Wilk advised residents who “love their children” to “flee” the state, citing a new bill that would classify refusal to “affirm” a child’s gender as child abuse. Parents could potentially lose custody of their children if they refuse to support their child’s decision to “transition” to another gender.




And this is why you get elected. Try to make change or leave and call them out on the way out. Bitching online or at meetings generally does nothing. Just leave. And make it a shit show on the way out. This guy is the instruction book of what I'm talking about.
232   The_Deplorable   2023 Jun 15, 2:54pm  

Patrick says
" https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/watch-california-senator-urges-conservatives-to-flee-the-state-cmc/ "

From the link:

Sen. Scott Wilk (R-Santa Clarita)... "advised residents who "love their children" to "flee" the state, citing a new bill that would classify refusal to "affirm" a child’s gender as child abuse."

No Senator. We, The People of The United States, will stay and fight this because California is a Conservative state - the state of Ronald Reagan.

Senator, the Deplorable response to this is Molon Labe.



233   WookieMan   2023 Jun 16, 4:33am  

The_Deplorable says

No Senator. We, The People of The United States, will stay and fight this because California is a Conservative state - the state of Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was an Illinoian. He was a transplant to CA. I know his childhood stomping grounds well in Dixon, IL. I spent many summers going out there until the late 2000's. Still go out there occasionally for family.

Yes, much of his life was spent in CA. Weather is nice out there, but most people moved there for work and opportunity in certain fields. Those days are dying. So are the CA cities. Chicago is dying, so I'm not trying to be hypocritical. I would leave the state of CA though. I really don't think there's hope. Look at your senators and house reps. How the fuck did that happen? At least every other person in your area voted for this shit. Now it drags down the entire country because of CA's percentage of representation.
235   Onvacation   2023 Jul 9, 7:13am  

WookieMan says

I would leave the state of CA though. I really don't think there's hope.

There're pockets of decent living in California.

After 2 weeks of Maine weather, I am ready to go home.
236   Ceffer   2023 Jul 9, 10:05am  

Whenever I go to the gas station mini mart at the corner, there are these young guys at the counter. They are pallid, either overweight or underweight, bad complexions, some look like harem castratos with long hair, surly in attitude, dispensing from the shelves full of vapes, tobacco, booze and lottery tickets. They should be at the most vibrant and healthy period of their lives, and they look like wiped out stoner dregs.

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