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Your Opinion: Will America Survive?


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2023 Feb 7, 7:13am   17,858 views  162 comments

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Great Britain continued to 'survive' after its Empire collapsed after WW I, and was further exacerbated by WW II. Today, the Empire in which the 'sun never set' is only a shadow of what it once was. Throughout history, numerous empires and civilizations have collapsed and simply disappeared, with, like Great Britain, only a remnant that survives. Is this America's fate?

I have my own thoughts, but I'd be really curious to hear what others have to say.

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39   HeadSet   2023 Mar 23, 8:43am  

RayAmerica says


America is in free fall, both economically and militarily. And especially morally. It’s been a gradual decline for decades but at the end things tend to move very fast and I believe we’ve entered that final death spiral.

Yes, but recall America before Pearl Harbor - a decadent 1920s and depression 1930s. Japan awakened a sleeping giant. Same thing would happen again of the China-Russia alliance attacked militarily. I am sure they know this, so China will just buy politicians that keep the border open and the fentanyl flowing, export the manufacturing, and degrade US society with woke and pedo.
40   RWSGFY   2023 Mar 23, 9:20am  

How's "America is in freefall militarily"? Care to expand on this statement?
41   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 23, 1:29pm  

Tucker Carlson: America's Era Is Coming To An End Just 2 Years Into The Biden Regime
https://rumble.com/v2ee26g-tucker-carlson-americas-era-is-coming-to-an-end-just-2-years-into-the-biden.html
42   Patrick   2023 Mar 23, 1:44pm  

RayAmerica says

Just as Rome became increasingly decadent prior to its collapse in 476, so goes America


Yes, it does seem to be true.
43   stereotomy   2023 Mar 23, 2:03pm  

The generation that fought WWII was the product of almost 30 years of ZERO immigration. The melting pot of the USA boils slowly, and requires at least a generation to come to fruition. We need to close the borders and give time for our society to re-amalgamate and do what this country is best able to do - re-define and recreate what it means to be an American.
44   Tenpoundbass   2023 Mar 23, 2:03pm  

I must point out that Rome did not fall, that the Emperor over many dominion in sovereign lands with their own Kings. Reached a point where it was no longer feasible or practical.
So they went into King making business under the Holy Throne moniker. They still got their gold, still have their Roman Senate in a sense, but now they don't have to have an Army and defend their empire. All of the other Kings that the Emperor turned Pope anointed. They will do it for them. Defend and Conquests outsourced, and Rome got a religious write off.
45   AmericanKulak   2023 Mar 23, 4:17pm  

The Eastern Empire lasted about 1000 more years than Rome. Of course it changed, Senate was anywhere as important, more Autocratic, abandoned Latin for Greek, etc.

One of the reasons for the collapse of the Western Roman Empire was taxes, serfdom, and debauchery. Better to be under low tax, freeholder, rough and tumble macho Germans than under high tax, serfdom, effette and decadent Romans.
46   AmericanKulak   2023 Mar 23, 4:21pm  

RayAmerica says


Just as Rome became increasingly decadent prior to its collapse in 476, so goes America:

Check out Tiberius and Julia the Elder/Younger, Livia, Vispania Agrippina whom he was forced to divorce. Tiberius was a Philosopher who happened to be a good general, but was manipulated by debauched women

Already by the end of Augustus, gynocentric debauchery was taking hold. Tiberius, Augustus, and much later Domitian tried to "Fix" the debauchery by enforcing the Moral Codes, but it was too late.

In the Republic and the first few decades of Empire, Roman women were strictly controlled, but wealth and prosperity made Romans abandon their sense of duty and discipline over females. And surprise! The birthrate fell and frivolous spending took over, as it ALWAYS does when women are given license.

Also cheap labor slaves from Gaul and Germania imported by Roman Elites replacing Italian workers.
47   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 23, 4:35pm  

Just another sign, among more than you can number, of America's advanced state of decay. This is what's going on in America's schools:

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/teacher-civil-rights-radical-theory

48   Onvacation   2023 Mar 23, 5:06pm  

RWSGFY says

How's "America is in freefall militarily"? Care to expand on this statement?



49   richwicks   2023 Mar 23, 5:13pm  

RWSGFY says


How's "America is in freefall militarily"? Care to expand on this statement?


After 20 years of war and bombing 7 nations, you are asking this?

Iraq would be the closest we've come to winning in a military sense. What did winning this war do for the good of this nation?

We're in a proxy war with Russia, we're going to lose that. It's not hard to predict it. Is the US military industrial complex involved? That results in disaster, every fucking time. When was the last time there was an exception? Grenada? Maybe the Bosnia war. It's just one fuckup after another, over and over and over again and there's these idiots that think "well, maybe 8th time is a charm!"

The US military is so reviled, that they cannot meet recruitment goals. They're bringing in transgendered people now. They are freaks, which is FINE, if it's not advertised.



Do you know why it's not advertised? Because it's used as propaganda when we go to war by the other side. Need to convince the Iraqis or Iranians or whatever that they are fighting on the morally right side, and the US is just a bunch of fucking degenerates? Pretty easy to do now.

At the same time it's like "hey kid, want to join up with the military?" and they see this stuff too.
50   AmericanKulak   2023 Mar 23, 5:21pm  

A country that needs 5 days from landfall to establish basic order in a 2nd Tier City after spending $100s of Billions on Emergency Reactions is mismanaged.

And no, Katrina was not a 100 year storm, more like a 25 year storm. A storm that Gulf Resident can expect to see at least 3-4 times in a lifetime living there.
51   richwicks   2023 Mar 23, 5:34pm  

AmericanKulak says

A country that needs 5 days from landfall to establish basic order in a 2nd Tier City after spending $100s of Billions on Emergency Reactions is mismanaged.

And no, Katrina was not a 100 year storm, more like a 25 year storm. A storm that Gulf Resident can expect to see at least 3-4 times in a lifetime living there.


Companies like Wallmart were sending in pallets of water bottles, only to have FEMA turn them back. That shit seriously happened.

Look at what is going on in Palestine Ohio, STILL?

Why do we even have a fucking government at this point?
52   RC2006   2023 Mar 23, 5:46pm  

Simple answer is no. We as a people have been poisoned both mentaly and physically. We are divided past the point of no return. Our institutions are lost causes. Our press is owned by corporate conglomerates. Our banks are owned by a small minority that wants us enslaved. Our government is ran by sociopaths.
53   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 24, 1:40pm  

Senseless acts of violence are becoming more common.

Woman accused of killing car dealership employee in dispute over leased vehicle
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/woman-accused-killing-car-dealership-employee-dispute-over-leased-vehicle/XTHI26FB4RHRNKPR3YHZZTJYF4/


54   PeopleUnited   2023 Mar 24, 7:53pm  

richwicks says

Why do we even have a fucking government at this point?

You have the government you deserve. Want a better one? Change it. Bitching on the internet won’t change anything. You have to go to meetings, form coalitions, spend time and money sponsoring candidates and training young people to be responsible participants in society. Do you think overturning Roe V Wade just happened? It took 40 years of hard work to make that happen.

Whatever is wrong with this country can be fixed if you get off your keyboard and start doing the work.
55   Onvacation   2023 Mar 24, 8:00pm  

The problem with the founding and early decades of our country was manifest destiny. Our forefathers set their sites too low. They should have aimed to spread liberty to the whole world, not just the continent.
56   Onvacation   2023 Mar 24, 8:04pm  

America is an ideal of liberty and justice we have yet to live up to. It will survive.
57   richwicks   2023 Mar 24, 8:50pm  

PeopleUnited says


richwicks says


Why do we even have a fucking government at this point?

You have the government you deserve. Want a better one? Change it.



OK, how do you change it? Give me ANY ideas.

MY idea was to educate the fucking morons about what is going on, because you need to have support. People don't give a fuck if our government murdered 800,000 Iraqis over lies, and thinks that 'the US government would never do this to us!" but they will. Government has no problem murdering US citizens.

They did 9/11. They did the WTC bombing. The murdered David Koresh - Koresh didn't have any working weapons. The murdered Randy Weaver. They run drugs, our government is the largest drug dealer in this nation. They entrap people. The stole an election, they COMMONLY steal elections, been doing it since at least 2004.

That's the LEAST of their crimes and all of that is true. Now, the question is, if people understand this is true, will nothing change?

Now, if the public is educated, and do nothing about it, yes, THEY have the government they deserve. My (possibly incorrect) assumption is people are fucking garbage. But I don't know. The last 2 years has shown me about 90% are.

The chief problem I've always though existed, is that "people don't know". We do NOT have fucking news. Fox news isn't any more real than CNN or PBS. My assumption for a long time, is simply people didn't know, and if they knew, they'd be up in arms about it. Is this a wrong assumption, because if it is, there's nothing to be done. If I had the power to murder say 1,000 people with NO POSSIBILITY of being caught, that wouldn't change the systemic corruption.

If people sit back and let evil run the world, they're evil. If they won't even fucking complain, they're evil. The question is, do they know? Do they know what their government is doing?
58   PeopleUnited   2023 Mar 25, 12:42am  

richwicks says

Give me ANY ideas.

Run for school board and recruit others to run who are lions not sheep.
59   richwicks   2023 Mar 25, 12:53am  

PeopleUnited says


richwicks says


Give me ANY ideas.

Run for school board and recruit others to run who are lions not sheep.



My mother and sister were on school boards. I don't have any kids, so pretty weird for me to do that.

Here's an idea, publish the curriculum of every school online, after all, taxpayers pay for it. Place the books, and the tests, online. That kind of happened in the last 2 years, and guess what, parents FINALLY got pissed. My sister and mother were always pissed.

My sister is a civil engineer, when she saw the coursework for Common Core math, she lost her shit. Her kid couldn't even add and subtract numbers properly, you remember



You can teach that in 10 minutes. It's plug and chug.

She was livid when she found out the bullshit Common Core method, but most parents, school is day care, they have calculators anyhow, who cares?

First you have to educate the population, then gauge the reaction. If the public is just a bunch of stupid selfish assholes who don't care, fuck it. They can be slaves, they walked into it, despite our best efforts.

Ever wonder what type of person would have children knowing their children would be slaves? Why do you think we might have such a violence problem in much of black America? Any guesses? Let me tell you, the future will get more violent.

Still, there were basically Chinese slaves, and Irish slaves too. I need to think and research more about slavery. I think slavery though generally creates the worst of a population to have children. Best people don't realize they are slaves. I don't think the Irish or Chinese generally did.
60   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 31, 7:31am  

Of course America will 'survive' in one form or another, but we are morphing into a chaotic, Banana Republic with each passing day. Having a blind justice system is one of our greatest protections. Can anyone honestly say that we still have that?
61   richwicks   2023 Mar 31, 7:51am  

RayAmerica says

Of course America will 'survive' in one form or another, but we are morphing into a chaotic, Banana Republic with each passing day.


We are a banana republic now.

We have shame elections, and we have a dual standard of laws. Our intelligence agencies are REGULARLY caught framing people, and violating the Constitution, we are lied into every war, our media is pure propaganda.

Fuck, the previous president just got indicted on trumped up charges over nothing.

We are there.
62   RWSGFY   2023 Mar 31, 8:02am  

RayAmerica says


Of course America will 'survive' in one form or another, but we are morphing into a chaotic, Banana Republic with each passing day. Having a blind justice system is one of our greatest protections. Can anyone honestly say that we still have that?


What makes it non-blind? Politisized prosecutors? But these by definition are political figures and have always been. So if this is the main criteria it means that we never had a blind justice system and the word "still" you used does not apply.
63   WookieMan   2023 Mar 31, 9:44am  

AmericanKulak says

A country that needs 5 days from landfall to establish basic order in a 2nd Tier City after spending $100s of Billions on Emergency Reactions is mismanaged.

NOLA shouldn't be there in the first place. It made sense at the time it was developed at the the gulf and end of the Mississippi. They invested in an area they didn't know. If you're like me and think 80% of people are dumb, imagine 250 years ago? It was probably closer to 95%. It's safe to assume it was developed by near retards just throwing it together for transport of goods. Baton Rouge would have made more sense and just let NOLA be swampland like it is.

I went in 2019. I had fun, but the place is a literal shit hole. They've repaired nothing really since Katrina besides putting windows back up. The structures are shit, even the nice ones. They can't even build a tall hotel without a massive construction incident. Where as a place like Biloxi recovered pretty quickly. I love the south, but most are idiots working with other idiots. It's compounding dumb fuckery.
64   RayAmerica   2023 Apr 1, 6:44am  

RWSGFY says


What makes it non-blind? Politisized prosecutors? But these by definition are political figures and have always been. So if this is the main criteria it means that we never had a blind justice system and the word "still" you used does not apply.

For the most part, America's system of justice, with of course exceptions, has not been based on politics. That is no longer the case. Courts now look the other way and refuse to hear cases in which massive amounts of evidence exists regarding stolen elections. Now, we have a rogue local DA in Manhattan that is prosecuting a former President, for the very same case that the Federal Justice Department turned down. If Trump were a Democrat, and an insider, there isn't even a chance this Democrat DA would be pursuing this.

By the way, although local prosecutors are elected officials, they prosecute CRIMINALS, and it's not based on politics.
65   RayAmerica   2023 Apr 5, 12:32pm  

RFK Jr: 'The Neocon Projects' in Iraq and Ukraine Have 'Made a Laughingstock of U.S. Military Power and Moral Authority

Neocon control of America has led to the collapse of American global hegemony and the shredding of our nation's moral authority, according to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

"The collapse of U.S. influence over Saudi Arabia and the Kingdom's new alliances with China and Iran are painful emblems of the abject failure of the Neocon strategy of maintaining U.S. global hegemony with aggressive projections of military power," Kennedy said Monday on Twitter, sharing an article from Reuters on OPEC+ cutting production to spike the price of oil in defiance of the Biden regime.

"China has displaced the American Empire by deftly projecting, instead, economic power," Kennedy continued. "Over the past decade, our country has spent trillions bombing roads, ports, bridges, and airports. China spent the equivalent building the same across the developing world."

"The Ukraine war is the final collapse of the Neocon's short-lived 'American Century.' The Neocon projects in Iraq and Ukraine have cost $8.1 trillion, hollowed out our middle class, made a laughingstock of U.S. military power and moral authority, pushed China and Russia into an invincible alliance, destroyed the dollar as the global currency, cost millions of lives and done nothing to advance democracy or win friendships or influence," Kennedy said.

Kennedy is absolutely correct.

His point was further underlined last month when Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador went off on the U.S. State Department for accusing Mexico of "human rights abuses" when the Biden regime is working to imprison former President Donald Trump, extradite Julian Assange and bombed the Nord Stream pipelines.

https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=63684
66   AmericanKulak   2023 Apr 5, 4:57pm  

When you start seeing Jack Tranniels cuck out to woke, it's over. The GOPe 1998-2016 was wrong, the millies not only didn't become more conservative with age, they're the first Generation in Living Memory to become MORE left wing with age.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/politics-conservative-twitter-millennials-gen-z_uk_63aef8cce4b0d6f0b9f354c5


Lt. Gov of Minnesota in a Tranny Violent Revolution shirt, a few weeks ago:

67   AD   2023 Apr 5, 5:12pm  

RayAmerica says

The Ukraine war is the final collapse of the Neocon's short-lived 'American Century


There are no conservatives or neo conservatives in the Biden Admin.

The Democrats who are disenfranchised with Birdbrain Biden's policies want to bring that up, but its a red herring argument.

Why is not RFK jr mentioning about Obama's meddling into Ukraine in 2014 ? Is Obama that much of a messiah figure that he can't be criticized ?

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68   HeadSet   2023 Apr 5, 5:23pm  

ad says

Why is not RFK jr mentioning about Obama's meddling into Ukraine in 2014 ? Is Obama that much of a messiah figure that he can't be criticized ?

Correct. Mention Obama and any point you make will be obscured under "racism" charges.
69   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 6:18pm  

ad says

There are no conservatives or neo conservatives in the Biden Admin.

No, you're incorrect.

Victoria Nuland is a Neoconservative. That fucking asshole shithead was instrumental in starting a war between Ukraine and Russia. She's still in power, and not in jail.

You are absolutely wrong. Stop thinking "democrat versus republican" - that's a canard, a false dichotomy. It's fucking assholes versus the population, and the population is ignorant, not stupid, simply ignorant, unknowing.
70   RayAmerica   2023 Apr 5, 7:52pm  

ad says

There are no conservatives or neo conservatives in the Biden Admin.

With all due respect, do a little research on the neo conservatives. They are anything but 'conservative.' They have their roots planted in liberalism and are typically very loyal to Israel. NeoCons are the warmongering psychopaths that have literally taken control of the State Department and the Pentagon. They are the driving force behind the Ukraine war, which they initiated by overthrowing the Russian friendly Ukraine government in 2014. If they get their way, we'll attack Syria & Iran. They are attempting to start WW III with Russia and are hoping that American troops will soon be fighting in Ukraine.
71   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 8:11pm  

RayAmerica says

ad says


There are no conservatives or neo conservatives in the Biden Admin.

With all due respect, do a little research on the neo conservatives. They are anything but 'conservative.' They have their roots planted in liberalism and are typically very loyal to Israel. NeoCons are the warmongering psychopaths that have literally taken control of the State Department and the Pentagon. They are the driving force behind the Ukraine war, which they initiated by overthrowing the Russian friendly Ukraine government in 2014. If they get their way, we'll attack Syria & Iran. They are attempting to start WW III with Russia and are hoping that American troops will soon be fighting in Ukraine.


They are mostly Zionist assholes, and they were Marxist fucks in the 1960's - seriously. They are a bunch of psychopaths with no principles, they are assholes that just want absolute power, if it is communist or fascist, they don't give a damned. Either one is fine for them. They are anti-freedom, they are anti-choice, they are the fucking assholes you read about in 1984 that was the Inner Party. They just want power, nothing else.
72   gabbar   2023 Apr 6, 5:43pm  

richwicks says

It's fucking assholes versus the population, and the population is ignorant, not stupid, simply ignorant, unknowing.

I second.
73   casandra   2023 Apr 6, 5:52pm  

I agree that GB is not the power it once was after WW 2, however I still believe GB runs the world. We are just their mule.

After the Communist take over of mainland china they tried using military might to take the American backers in Taiwan and failed, but they were committed to taking it and just didn't have the military might and modern weapons of the time to do it.

BUT; they NEVER even attempted to take Hong Kong from the British. That would have been an easy easy easy feat. They could literally jump from Kowloon to HK but didn't. Then China said all trade from China would go through HK. Wonder why. Me suspects GB was still in control of things in 1948.

Oh, and for those that wonder why this country is attacking its own citizens. I think that easy. The people who run this country, I mean the ones that TRULY are calling the shots here using our elected leaders as stooges, DO NOT LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY AND DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE CITIZENS HERE!
74   AD   2023 Apr 6, 10:12pm  

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$500,000 worth of iPhones stolen from Apple Store in Seattle

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/criminal-gang-cuts-hole-through-apple-store-wall-steals-500000-worth-iphones

Rampant crime like this from Apple Store to Target to Walmart ... declining math, writing and reading scores in public schools...

a corrupt and rogue one-party left wing authoritarian state which abuses power and uses FBI and DOJ as its enforcers...

ESG and DEI as the official cult religion of the state ....

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75   RayAmerica   2023 Apr 7, 11:11am  

'I'll get him': Sheriff vows to hunt down third killer as two boys, 12 and 17, are arrested in triple teen murders: Cop says shooters left messy crime scene as they hid bodies after 'turning on the victims'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11949349/Arrests-murder-three-Florida-teenagers-shot-dead-outside-tiny-town.html




76   Ceffer   2023 Apr 7, 11:21am  

casandra says

Oh, and for those that wonder why this country is attacking its own citizens. I think that easy. The people who run this country, I mean the ones that TRULY are calling the shots here using our elected leaders as stooges, DO NOT LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY AND DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE CITIZENS HERE!

Finally, somebody around here states the reality. Its the crack in the dam that will finally open up minds instead of looking at the puppet show talk show host politicians and rubber masked avatars as if they are real and are in charge..
77   The_Deplorable   2023 Apr 7, 1:30pm  

"Why The Restrict Act Is So Dangerous"

In a nutshell, the Restrict Act eliminates Freedom of Speech. Period.

This is Tulsi Gabbard explaining how - Less than 2 minutes.



original link
78   Ceffer   2023 Apr 7, 1:44pm  

I foolishly used to think that legislators were supposed to be triage to make sure proposed laws were studied and screened whether they were Constitutional to begin with.
Clif High says that the average time for an unconstitutional law to be reversed by the courts is 18 months. That's 18 months that the psychopaths have to utilize an unconstitutional law to wreak havoc or destroy rights, with many lasting even longer.

Any legislator who knowingly votes for a law that is clearly unconstitutional on its face should be run out of office on a rail and hung. Yet, it is now embedded policy to pass unconstitutional laws and ride them for all they are worth.

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