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War Between North Korea and the United States Is Inevitable


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2017 Sep 20, 4:34am   42,134 views  146 comments

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War Between The United States And North Korea Is Inevitable

I have been warning everyone for weeks that a miscalculation or a mistake is going to lead to a war between the US and North Korea that will result in the use of nuclear weapons in battle for the first time since 1945.
I promised myself that I would not watch the Ken Burns series Vietnam. After all, I had four friends killed there and some friends wounded. A Purple Heart certificate sits on the wall in my study. I broke the promise to myself. I watched the first two episode of the series yesterday. I focused on how four U.S. presidents saw Vietnam. Let me summarize what I saw:
President Eisenhower: He gave France hundreds of millions of dollars in support to keep them fighting in Vietnam. At one point, he was financing 80% of France’s costs to fight the war. France had over 100,000 casualties in Vietnam. President Eisenhower would not send US troops. He decided that the war was unwinnable.
President Kennedy: One quote in the show was most telling as follows:
“These people don’t like us. But if Vietnam falls to the Communists, I will lose the 1964 election.”
At the John F. Kennedy Library, I purchased a book: Vietnam Had Kennedy Lived. This is some heavy reading and quite scholarly. The conclusion is that Kennedy would have stayed in Vietnam until after the 1964 election and then started to wind down US involvement even if the North Vietnamese won.
President Johnson: Despite his humble background and education, Johnson’s biographer Doris Kearns Goodwin described him as a political genius. Johnson believed in The Domino Theory. In other words, if South Vietnam fell, Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia, etc. would follow.
President Nixon: Alan Greenspan described Nixon as a dark and troubled man with a brilliant mind. President Nixon was a master of foreign affairs. He too believed in the Domino Theory.
With Johnson and Nixon strong believers in the Domino Theory, it was inevitable that Vietnam would be a long and a bloody war for the USA. North Vietnam won at the cost of some 3.25 million people killed. 20% of their territory is a “no man’s land” due to land mines and poisonous chemicals. After the Vietnam war ended in 1975, an additional 50,000 Vietnamese civilians were killed by land mines and unexploded ordinance.
Let us go to the present. Everyone thinks that Donald Trump is wild and irresponsible. Even if Hillary Clinton or Mike Pence were president, a war with North Korea would be inevitable. It would escalate to a nuclear conflict. The mindset is there as it was in Vietnam. It will start with some mistake or misunderstanding. It will quickly escalate into a nuclear exchange because that sort of firepower will be needed to destroy North Korea’s military capabilities.
Let me expose some fallacies as follows:
1) Kim Jung Un and his senior management team are phantoms hiding in heavily-fortified bunkers all the time. Wrong, they do appear in public. Rest assured that the following countries have “eyes on” Kim and his management team 24 hours a-day seven days a week:
The US
Japan
South Korea
China
Israel (Due to fear of North Korea sharing its nuclear technology with Iran.)
The dream of all these countries would be a stealth drone strike that would kill Kim Jung Un and his management team. If this happened the country would collapse.
2) Massive nuclear weapons will have to be employed with casualties in the range of 25 million plus. Nuclear weapons will be employed to “take out” military targets. My educated guess is one million casualties.
3) South Korea and Japan will be heavily damaged. There will be some casualties and damage in South Korea and Japan. China should be very concerned. When things get really irrational, North Korean nuclear weapons and poison gas might be used against China.
What will follow will be a temporary fall in world financial markets with a nasty recession to follow. Violent protests will erupt all over the world. These protests will make the Vietnam War protests seem pale in comparison.

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127   just_passing_through   2018 Apr 29, 8:31pm  

Booger yours are the best!
128   Goran_K   2018 May 1, 8:24am  

Man this thread did NOT age well.
129   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 2, 2:31pm  

Aging even worse, now:

North Korea has freed three U.S. citizens detained for years in the communist country, bowing to another demand of President Trump ahead of his planned meeting with Kim Jong-un.

The three Americans — Kim Dong Chul, Kim Hak-song and Kim Sang Duk, also known as Tony Kim — were released from a North Korean labor camp and sent to Pyongyang for medical treatment, the Financial Times reported.

Though out of the brutal labor camp, the men remain in the grasp of Mr. Kim’s regime.

They currently are believed to be convalescing in a hotel outside Pyongyang.

“We believe that Mr. Trump can take them back on the day of the U.S.-North Korea summit, or he can send an envoy to take them back to the U.S. before the summit,” said Choi Sung-ryong, an activist pursuing release of North Korea’s political prisoners.

The release of the three Americans marked another significant victory for the Trump administration, which also won North Korea’s agreement to discuss giving up its nuclear weapon program as a prerequisite for the talks.

National Security Adviser John R. Bolton had called for the release of the detainees, and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo reportedly raised the issue during secret face-to-face talks with Mr. Kim last month in Pyongyang.

Kim Hak-song and Kim Sang Duk worked at the Pyongyang University of Science and Technology. Kim Dong Chul is the president of a company involved in international trade and hotel services. He was sentenced to 10 years on espionage charges.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/2/north-korea-releases-us-detainees-bows-another-tru/
130   Strategist   2018 May 2, 4:34pm  

Feux Follets says
Why the US’s 1994 deal with North Korea failed – and what Trump can learn from it.

After more than two decades of testing, North Korea finally has a missile that is powerful enough to deliver a nuclear warhead to US territory – that is, to Alaska and/or Hawaii, if estimates are to be believed. This is an extremely dangerous development, and if the Trump administration is to avoid spiralling into a nuclear confrontation with North Korea, it needs to understand what North Korea wants and why it behaves the way it does.


Trump knows exactly why past Presidents failed. They need to learn why Trump succeeded so much in such a short period of time, even though NK already has the nuclear bomb.
I would also suggest those who worked in past administrations, not give advise to Trump on Iran. They had their chance. Now get out of the way.
131   Strategist   2018 May 2, 4:36pm  

Strategist says
Now get out of the way.


In other words.......Fuck Off
132   mell   2018 May 18, 5:21pm  

Any minute
133   Patrick   2018 May 18, 6:06pm  

Feux Follets says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
ISIS is the JV Team.
We Came, We Saw, He Died.
Reset Button.
Red Line.


And ISIS came about because - go ahead - BUSHII and the other guy with the mustache - Jim something, last names starts with a "B" and it seems he is somewhere in government again..


ISIS is just an extension of Saudi Arabia.

Exact same philosophy, just unrestrained by official connection to oil export, which limits what the official Saudi government policy can be.

If there were no threat of boycott or expropriation of Saudi assets, the Saudis would publicly behave exactly the same.
134   RWSGFY   2018 May 19, 7:47am  

Any update from the trenches?
135   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 19, 11:59am  

The North Koreans haven't cancelled Singapore meeting, despite the hope of Lefties who want Trump to fail more than they want Peace and Denuclearization.

The North Koreans whinged, Trump pulled out a B-52 out of the 100s of aircraft in an exercise as a goodwill gesture. Everything is headed towards Singapore in June.
136   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 19, 12:00pm  

Feux Follets says

Does the South Korean government really believe that Trump’s “maximum pressure” policy is the force driving North Korea to consider bargaining away its nuclear weapons? As South Korean officials handle the heavy lifting through constant rounds of shuttle diplomacy, do they really think it is all thanks to Trump?

Among academics and experts there are still conflicting answers to this question.


Nice smear. Not one quote or interview or other point of evidence is provided. Rather, South Korea officials have warmly thanked Trump for his moves with North Korea.
137   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 19, 4:22pm  

Yep, it's a bit hard. Previous Admins would just put Rustbelt Americans out on the street without a second thought.

Trump has to balance many issues. Not to worry though, the Chinese and US just had a joint announcement about buying more US Stuff, because it's not just about us buying less from them, but about them buying more from us.
138   anonymous   2018 May 20, 4:26am  

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Trump has to balance many issues


Potus really should consult with a mental health professional on a regular basis, say daily.

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Previous Admins would just put Rustbelt Americans out on the street without a second thought


And this has what to do exactly with what is going on in North Korea ?

Since Potus is somehow managing to get a second thought now and then, what is he doing to help get those Rustbelt Americans off the street since the policies coming out from the administration are anything but helpful to the down and out.

It must be all those jobs that pay a living wage with benefits that is turning the tide huh ? It that why the homeless population is growing along with more people falling out of the middle class and into the lower classes ?

But again - all of this fluff about trade, Rustbelt families etc. has what to do exactly with Korea, Bolton and Potus threats ?
140   RWSGFY   2022 Jan 27, 10:50am  

ANY SECOND NOW!!!!
141   clambo   2022 Jan 27, 11:11am  

Bring it on.
General Turgidson: “Mr. President, I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than 10 to 20 million killed, tops!, uh depending on the breaks.”
142   stereotomy   2022 Jan 27, 11:47am  

Call up Team America. Put the RAID to that son-of-a-space-cockroach Kim Jong Il!

Terrorist your game is through
'Cause now you have to answer to
America - Fuck Yeah!
143   RWSGFY   2022 Jan 27, 2:19pm  

WHO'S WINNING?
144   RWSGFY   2022 Feb 12, 10:37am  

ANY NEWS FROM THE BATTLEFIELD?!!!
146   Eric Holder   2023 Mar 22, 4:35pm  

ARE NOKOS JOINING THE WWIII?

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