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My second Covid(?) experience.


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2022 Aug 19, 11:09am   1,379 views  30 comments

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My second experience started the same way as the first time, which was about 8 months ago. Extreme chills in the middle of the night. Chills that make it difficult to walk or control motor skills. It took 5 blankets and about 3 hours to get back to a comfortable temperature.

Before I get into all of the details...no, I did not test the first time or the second time. Yes, I suppose it could be the flu but, both of these were much different than any other flu I've ever experienced before. Both times, I contracted "it" from my wife who lost her sense of taste both times.

Tuesday 3am - Extreme chills
Wednesday morning - A "kill me now" headache that lasted all day. So bad was it that I moaned all day. Not a single pain killer helped.
Slept all day and took 3 Ivermectin pills (12mg) throughout the day. Extreme fatigue.
Thursday Morning - felt a LOT better but the headache was on a low boil. Could get up and walk the dogs.
Friday 5am - Extreme headache woke me up. Took Tylenol
Friday morning about 10am - I'm about 90-95% back to normal. If I had to go back to work, I could.

I got this flu/Covid from my wife. She still doesn't have a sense of taste. This is what leads me to believe I have/had Covid. She didn't take any Ivermectin until the 3rd day. I started taking it right away.

I just ran into my neighbor who is a nurse while walking the dogs. I warned her that I was sick but almost recovered. She told me not to get tested. Haha.

Just thought I'd share.

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10   GNL   2022 Aug 19, 4:19pm  

Booger says

How are any of you getting the China flu more than once? I thought that only vaxxed people got the China flu more than once.

Good question. Dunno.
11   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Aug 19, 4:25pm  

GNLused says

Booger says


How are any of you getting the China flu more than once? I thought that only vaxxed people got the China flu more than once.

Good question. Dunno.


we had covid twice too. was very light second time around, mostly fatigue, temperature and loss of taste. lasted few days. not vaccinated.

my vaccinated neighbor almost died from covid around same time, knocked him into hospital for a month.
12   RedStar   2022 Aug 19, 4:48pm  

Ive had it at least twice, pure-blood here. First time was like a semi hit me, in bed for 3 days. 2nd time was omicron, didn't even know I had it.
13   EBGuy   2022 Aug 19, 5:08pm  

Booger says


How are any of you getting the China flu more than once? I thought that only vaxxed people got the China flu more than once.

BA.4/5 shows immune escape across both previous Omicron infection and vaccination.

These data show that the BA.2.12.1, BA.4, and BA.5 subvariants substantially escape neutralizing antibodies induced by both vaccination and infection. Moreover, neutralizing antibody titers against the BA.4 or BA.5 subvariant and (to a lesser extent) against the BA.2.12.1 subvariant were lower than titers against the BA.1 and BA.2 subvariants, which suggests that the SARS-CoV-2 omicron variant has continued to evolve with increasing neutralization escape. These findings provide immunologic context for the current surges caused by the BA.2.12.1, BA.4, and BA.5 subvariants in populations with high frequencies of vaccination and BA.1 or BA.2 infection.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2206576
14   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Aug 19, 7:37pm  

EBGuy says


https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2206576


Shades of Emil von Behring! The viral neutralization assay is really olde shyte which doesn't tell you much. Vaccine developers like it as it is automatable and gives a simple, albeit GIGO readout. Why do anything more complex that could slow down product release, after all?

Fucking Harvard hospital! That waitress in disguise Wallensky is from Harvard. Just a silly brand.

The viral neutralization assay only determines if the serum of the vaccinated blocks a virus from replicating in a sample cell line. In the case of the cited reference article, the cell line possesses the ACE2 receptor, and the anti-viral serum antibodies prevent the virus from binding to the receptor, gaining entry into the cell, and replicating. The artifical technique in no way replicates an immune system, or measures the entirety of immune function.

The limited technique cannot measure T cell response, NK cell response, macrophage or neutrophil response, antibody-dependent cellular cytotoxicity, complement-dependent cytotoxicity, etc. etc.

So you can have low titiers of neutralizing antibody as measured by the archaic viral neutralization assay, and yet still have protective immunity. MD-pretend vaccinologists have to be the lowest of the low. I take that back - public health physicians are, but then again, they ain't scientists.
15   Patrick   2022 Aug 19, 7:40pm  

GNLused says

Booger says


How are any of you getting the China flu more than once? I thought that only vaxxed people got the China flu more than once.

Good question. Dunno.


That also makes it seem like maybe you didn't actually get Fauci Flu twice, but maybe once and then something else, or vice versa.
16   richwicks   2022 Aug 19, 7:43pm  

Patrick says

That also makes it seem like maybe you didn't actually get Fauci Flu twice, but maybe once and then something else, or vice versa.


This is a good point, how much should we trust the tests? We used to hear that people that gave up waiting in line for a test would get a positive result in the mail a week later. Maybe it's not true, but it's anecdotal.

But still, like every virus, it's mutating.
17   Patrick   2022 Aug 19, 7:56pm  

richwicks says


But still, like every virus, it's mutating.


And very quickly, just like the cold virus, a similar RNA-based virus. This is why the vaxx could never have possibly worked, except briefly, against one version. And why there has never been a cure for the common cold.

It's possible to induce immunity to slowly mutating DNA-based viruses like smallpox, but this misleads people into thinking that quickly mutating viruses can also be vaccinated against. They can't.
18   richwicks   2022 Aug 19, 8:07pm  

Patrick says

It's possible to induce immunity to slowly mutating DNA-based viruses like smallpox, but this misleads people into thinking that quickly mutating viruses can also be vaccinated against. They can't.


It would be possible if

1) the vaccine worked
2) there were no animal reservoirs
3) it was done universally at the same time.

We should not try to cure everything anyhow, viruses are a source of our mutations and evolution. They are a part of our biological environment.
19   EBGuy   2022 Aug 19, 9:15pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says


you can have low titiers of neutralizing antibody as measured by the archaic viral neutralization assay, and yet still have protective immunity.

I certainly don't disagree with that. Throw in some mucosal immunity as well for those who go the old fashioned route (immunity through natural infection). That said, the assays certainly give us a good reason why the BA.4/5 wave is taking out infecting the alpha vaxxers.

20   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2022 Aug 19, 9:27pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Sorry to hear it. How do you think you got it? Kids, wife, mass transit, work? And if you do not mind me asking, how is your health in general? Overweight/obese? Co-morbidities like diabetes, HBP, COPD? Exercise, outdoors activities? Taking immunosuppressants? Do you get sick often, besides the coof?

I am curious because (knock on wood) unvaxxed me hasn't been symptomatic and my vaxxed not boosted wife also has been unsymptomatic. Never got PCR'd. A 30 year-old vaxxed and boosted relative has gotten it twice, laid up in bed for days both times.


I got the Moderna vax and lots sooner than others…March 2021. Like I said, I’ve never had it or didn’t know o had it. And my overall health is shit and I have three serious co morbidities. Also I went to work the entire time of the pandemic in enclosed spaces with lots of other people. Wife had it…symptoms were like a common cold and she lost her sense of taste. I slept with her every night and never got it(I tested 4 times during the ensuing two weeks). My step daughter lives with us and didn’t get it either.

I’ll also note that wife and I went to Las Vegas almost monthly during the last few months of 2020 and about 7 times in 2021. Rooms were free and roads were empty so why not? Also went to multiple large scale events as soon as we were able.

Despite the statements of psuedo political pretend science assholes like Anthony Fauci and LA County’s Barbara “Scary Sherry” Ferrer, the scientific and medical community don’t actually know how people contract Covid and why some do and some don’t.

I can say one thing for sure…fuck me if I go get a booster or another vaccine. Almost everyone that died was old as dirt and actually died while having Covid, not because of it. There’s no reason for anyone to take a fraudulent vaccine.
21   GNL   2022 Aug 19, 9:28pm  

EBGuy says


the assays certainly give us a good reason why the BA.4/5 wave is taking out the alpha vaxxers.

What does that mean? What is an assay? What is an alpha vaxxer? What do you mean by "taking out"?
22   komputodo   2022 Aug 19, 10:13pm  

Booger says

How are any of you getting the China flu more than once? I thought that only vaxxed people got the China flu more than once.

probably 80% of patnetters are vaxxed
23   komputodo   2022 Aug 19, 10:17pm  

richwicks says

This is a good point, how much should we trust the tests?

well if you believe the guy that invented the test, you should not trust it at all.
24   NuttBoxer   2022 Aug 19, 10:52pm  

Re-infection only makes sense if it's not a virus at all. Ok, yes, we do have flu and cold virus's we've all gotten more than once in our lives, but the symptoms we had matched up with neither. No vomiting, no runny nose, no excess mucus, little or no fever. Instead we had symptom combinations we'd never had before, fatigue, headache, lingering symptoms that were missing their normal calling cards(throat irritation, but no drainage).

Read the DoD docs on spike proteins. The sickness is caused by a lab engineering bio-weapon that hitches a ride on anything that will get it into your body. And it doesn't leave. No symptoms, but zinc levels deplete to the point of lost sense of smell. This stuff has more in common with bacteria than virus's.

Also, Ivermectin is anti-bacterial, so is our natural alternative that helped, sweet wormwood.
25   Shaman   2022 Aug 19, 11:01pm  

My family got it twice this year. Once in January when we were all uninfected. And the second time was super mild. I didn’t even take off work.
My son still hasn’t ever been symptomatic.
26   Booger   2022 Aug 20, 7:27am  

komputodo says

probably 80% of patnetters are vaxxed


I was thinking that maybe only 2 people here got the clot shot.
27   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Aug 20, 7:27am  

EBGuy says

That said, the assays certainly give us a good reason why the BA.4/5 wave is taking out infecting the alpha vaxxers.

Could be incidental, partly contributory, or enitrely contributory. Original antigenic sin may be the dog, and the neutralization assay findings the tail. Data from non-vaxxed PCR positive and PCR negative subjects would have been helpful. But when all you have is a hammer, and sacrifice good science to appease a retaliatory academic administration and government bureaucracy....
28   mell   2022 Aug 20, 8:17am  

Onvacation says


Patrick says


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.26.20239152v1.full

People reported pervasive “off” smells, or a metallic taste

I caught it at work last May and tested positive. EVERYTHING tasted like burnt coffee.


That was one distinct symptom for me as well, I stopped drinking coffee for 4 weeks+ and switched to tea until the taste disruption subsided, deep aversion to coffee and chocolate/cocoa. Generally love both. Didn't have crazy chills but crazy nightsweats (could basically chage the sheets every morning) while feeling cold which took 2 months to fully subside. Besides the massive initial headache, extreme fatigue (slept 8 to 8), moderate shortness of breath and mild nausea I worked all but 2 days. Not fun, longer duration but generally milder than the flu. Was supposedly delta. Started taking ivermectin too late (day 4), wife took it immediately and proacticely and only had very mild symptoms for a week. One other upside, I finished a nice bottle of brandy with the tea in 2 weeks.
29   WookieMan   2022 Aug 20, 10:06am  

mell says

I finished a nice bottle of brandy with the tea in 2 weeks.

I've been hesitant to bring it up. I swear alcohol stops it. Prevents it honestly, just an opinion. My evidence is my own, not proof.

I got sick twice during covid and thought nothing of it. Was extremely mild. Still, no one likes feeling off their A game. Negative tests (7ish now) all the time. It's a virus and real, I just don't think it's that big of a deal if you take care of yourself.
30   Onvacation   2022 Aug 20, 11:29am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Wallensky is from Harvard

THAT explains a lot!

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