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You know, I've never read his book.

I always thought it was a lot of hype. CONSTANTLY in the news. I always figured it was fodder to get the US into a bunch of dumb fucking wars in the Middle East, more or less propaganda.

I haven't but it's supposedly pretty good AND based on the real concept of several very discordant Koran chapters, that don't match the current Koran. For a few centuries there were Koran copies that didn't match the Central Asian City one (B-something) that is the current "Accepted Koran". These chapters that are occasionally found in Mosques all over the world, esp. in Yemen and Oman, are called "Satanic Verses" despite dating as old or older than "Correct Koran" chapters.

I read it. It's somewhat entertaining, but too long.

If you want to know how the Koran was created, this book has lots of detail:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/339515.Why_I_am_Not_a_Muslim

And then the Satanic Verses makes much more sense.

Patrick says

I read it. It's somewhat entertaining, but too long.

If you want to know how the Koran was created, this book has lots of detail:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/339515.Why_I_am_Not_a_Muslim

And then the Satanic Verses makes much more sense.

The Bible is just as false. Most researched book in history, and it's been taken apart.

I still think that if there is a god, it must be innately knowable within every human being. Probably a rodent knows more about what God is than any human being does.

The Bible has been used to locate countless cities accurately. They said the same thing about Troy and the Illiad until Schliemann found it using it's description.

UNLIKE the Koran, the Bible is all but perfect, both Old and New. The largest discrepancies between copies are a few added or missing verses at the end of Mark or a few typos over thousands of years and thousands of miles. It's survived almost 2 centuries of "Higher Criticism" 20th Century Archeaology has mostly confirmed the mentions and timelines given in the Bible.

AmericanKulak says

The Bible has been used to locate countless cities accurately. They said the same thing about Troy and the Illiad until Schliemann found it using it's description.

Not saying it doesn't have some historical accuracies, I'm saying just because some of it is right doesn't mean the really bold claims are also correct.

AmericanKulak says

UNLIKE the Koran, the Bible is all but perfect, both Old and New. The largest discrepancies between copies are a few added or missing verses at the end of Mark or something over thousands of years. It's survived almost 2 centuries of "Higher Criticism"

I have argued about religion for years, and I have realized it's better for people to believe what I consider a falsehood than the insanity that would replace it.

20 years ago I'd point out gross errors of the bible to you, but I see no reason to suspend your faith. We have a common enemy now, and politics make strange bedfellows. Better a Christian society than the monstrosity that is being forced upon us. There are more important things than being "right". I could explain the entire concept of evolutionary psychology, how it's LARGELY coherent with MODERN Christianity, more important just to be on your side.

We experimented, we were wrong, we're a powerful ally. You will only argue from the point of view of faith, I can argue from the point of view of science. Transgendered children, even homosexuality I can attack through logic. They claim to worship logic, they don't.

Patrick's point of view of homosexuality as being "a disease", I can argue that as logic. From a total reductive point of view, of thinking of us as only machine, our only purpose is to reproduce. From that vantage point, it's an error at least, but if it can be passed on, it's a disease.

I didn't believe it could be passed on except through genetics when I was 20, I'm reconsidering this position now. I would have argued fiercely against this 30 years ago, but I can accept error.

https://boingboing.net/2022/08/16/after-stabbing-salman-rushdies-the-satanic-verses-tops-amazon-bestseller-list.html

After stabbing, Salman Rushdie's "The Satanic Verses" tops Amazon bestseller list

These fuckers should keep their fight back home, not bring it here. Fundraise for your cause all you want (like IRA did), but keep the action away from the US soil.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/manhunt-ends-for-ex-nfl-stars-brother-suspected-of-killing-youth-football-coach

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/CountDankulaTV