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Patrick says

Some people clearly believe Russia will win and sanctions will end.

And if Russia loses, US taxpayers will reimburse Blackrock etc for their losses, as always.

There was a guy on another forum in 2008 buying up every bond from these institutions for 40 cents on the dollar. They got bailed out, went back to 100 cents on the dollar and he was earning 20 percent on his original investment.

How does buying bonds in the secondary market benefit Russia? Russia gets no money, jut the current bond holders.

Buy low, selll high.

I’d buy too if I knew what to buy

HeadSet says

How does buying bonds in the secondary market benefit Russia? Russia gets no money, jut the current bond holders.

Good question.

Fortwaynemobile says

Buy low, selll high.

I’d buy too if I knew what to buy

Return on capital vs return of capital. That shit may be frozen/arrested. It's not investing - it's gambling.

ChauvinsKnee says

Fortwaynemobile says

Buy low, selll high.

I’d buy too if I knew what to buy

Return on capital vs return of capital. That shit may be frozen/arrested. It's not investing - it's gambling.

US won’t fuck own investors ever

Fortwaynemobile says

ChauvinsKnee says

Fortwaynemobile says

Buy low, selll high.

I’d buy too if I knew what to buy

Return on capital vs return of capital. That shit may be frozen/arrested. It's not investing - it's gambling.

US won’t fuck own investors ever

LOL

Go buy some then.

Investing in anything Russian is worst than gambling. Its now trendy to boycott Russian products, to stop doing business in Russia and to stop your imports to this fucked up place. This trend just started and it wont stop until Russia is worst off than Mozambique. The world wants Russia to be crushed and betting against this is just stupid.

The reason why they are buying Russian debt is Russia has collateral; oil and gas.

I’m greedy but not interested in buying any debt or stocks in China, Russia, or third world countries.

For decades I owned a mutual fund “New Asia” at T. Rowe Price; I just sold that fucker off.

Save_Ukraine says

The world wants Russia to be crushed and betting against this is just stupid.

And there in lies the rub. I thought Putin was the bad guy here?

It seems to me, people will say "Yeah! Fuck Them!" anytime CNN says they are toxic masculine males, and should be canceled.

So far I haven't gotten back one single educated knowledgeable response from anyone offline harping about Russia, Putin and weighing in on Ukraine.

When I ask them, "Really what is your vested interest in the Ukraine/Russian conflict, what is your horse in this race?"

They can't come up with any, though I'm sending mental mind waves wishing they would go into the Dictator, Communist angle. So I could ask them how does that differ from the way American exercising their constitutional rights to free assembly are rotting away in Jail completely devoid of any due process?

But the reality is, they can't come up with one single thing to say when put with that question.

Just wondering what the correlation is to people who actually believe Ukraine is the just/victim party in this conflict to those who actually believed the covid/forced vax hysteria as presented by the MSM over the last 2 years.

I'd venture to guess that those who believed in the covaid cooties and the need for forced vaxxing as presented by the MSM also believe that Russia is some sort of unwarranted aggressor in this situation, again - as our MSM et.al. is presenting.

If you did NOT believe in the MSM narrative about covid & need for forced vaxxing then you probably don't accept the idea that Ukraine is some sort of innocent victim in this conflict, and there is likely much more to the story than what the MSM et.al. has been presenting 24/7 since the start of this thing.

It all boils down to skepticism of our MSM & affiliated corporate/gubmint spin-masters and the realization that anything they report on that is WORTH knowing is a lie or misrepresentation of some sort. At this point its very difficult to be gullible enough to believe anything they present as the truth..

AmericanKulak says

Not a good sign for Ukraine, if true.

This information comes from their investment reports, easily verifiable. Specifically JP Morgan, and Goldman Sachs. Morgan did the same thing during WWI, buying up English and French bonds. Then when they needed help to guarantee their investment paid off, staged the Lusitania murders.

But that would mean this is not merely a black and white Russian invasion of Ukraine. But, but red man bad!

How's that buying up of Ruscists assets working for them?

PerfectlyFlawed says

If you did NOT believe in the MSM narrative about covid & need for forced vaxxing then you probably don't accept the idea that Ukraine is some sort of innocent victim in this conflict, and there is likely much more to the story than what the MSM et.al. has been presenting 24/7 since the start of this thing.

It all boils down to skepticism of our MSM & affiliated corporate/gubmint spin-masters and the realization that anything they report on that is WORTH knowing is a lie or misrepresentation of some sort. At this point its very difficult to be gullible enough to believe anything they present as the truth..

I completely agree with you.

If Ukraine is some sort of innocent, that will be a surprise to me, especially since I know with absolute certainty that the United States overthrew it, and I also know for certainty that once it was overthrown it quickly went into civil war between ethnic Russians and Ukrainians. The US caused this calamity.

Seems like it's US foreign policy to create wars.

ChauvinsKnee says

Fortwaynemobile says

ChauvinsKnee says

Fortwaynemobile says

Buy low, selll high.

I’d buy too if I knew what to buy

Return on capital vs return of capital. That shit may be frozen/arrested. It's not investing - it's gambling.

US won’t fuck own investors ever

LOL

Go buy some then.

i would if i knew how

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

ChauvinsKnee says

Fortwaynemobile says

ChauvinsKnee says

Fortwaynemobile says

Buy low, selll high.

I’d buy too if I knew what to buy

Return on capital vs return of capital. That shit may be frozen/arrested. It's not investing - it's gambling.

US won’t fuck own investors ever

LOL

Go buy some then.

i would if i knew how

Both buying and selling of Russian stocks by foreigners has been prohibited by your Great Christian Leader. I believe Patrick got stuck with some now worthless Russian stocks in "escrow account" because of that. So the only way to get some oh-so-desirable Russian stonks is to get a Russian citizenship.

richwicks says

civil war between ethnic Russians and Ukrainians.

Right. Because taking over neighboring country's military bases with your military units w/o insignia is now called "civil war".

The war has kicked off by operation to annex Crimea which commenced on Feb 20, 2014. It says it right on the medal awarded to the "heroes" of that operation a.k.a. "little green men". At that moment Yanukovich was still sitting in the Presidential palace in Kyiv, so what exactly was "overthrown"? And who are these "ethnic Russians" who were fighting "civil war" with "ethnic Ukrainians" on Feb 20, 2014? Russian Spetznaz?

With the exception of an interesting diving watch called Vostok Amphibia, there’s nothing good to buy in Russia.

clambo says

With the exception of an interesting diving watch called Vostok Amphibia, there’s nothing good to buy in Russia.

I understand their oil, gas, fertilizer, grain and vodka are highly regarded. --- Their politics...not so much.

Hugh_Mongous says

richwicks says

civil war between ethnic Russians and Ukrainians.

Right. Because taking over neighboring country's military bases with your military units w/o insignia is now called "civil war".

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.

There was a US coup d'etat. This is NOT open for debate. This is the most obvious coup EVER in history where the person picking out the next government, Victoria Nuland, was recorded picking out the next government at least 2 weeks and 4 days before it happened. I, and many people, have demonstrated this over, and over, and over and over again. If you don't know by now, you don't have the facilities to ever know it.

Neither Crimea nor the Donbass regions accepted this coup, and they revolted. I saw this happen in 2014, it was reported by our own media in 2014, before it was a political issue. Of course our propaganda never identified it as a coup, they just said that Donbass and Crimea were being invaded, Crimea where there's a massive Russian military base was "invaded" by the people already stationed there. Now I have to listen to people who have KNOWN the US government has lied about Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, vaccinations, a pandemic, and is now lying about this. I'm fucking tired of talking to the gullible and the naive, or the propagandists.

If you can't be bothered to THINK, fuck it.

It's not going to make one FUCKING bit of different what either I or you think. YOU simply won't think, why should I waste my time talking with you? What purpose does this gain me? What do I get out of talking to ANOTHER brainwashed person? You're everywhere. Slava Ukraini! It's just another criminal deep state operation.

Here the fucking brilliant artist and Ukrainian Energy expert that works there:



You expect me to WASTE MY TIME, and try to convince you that our government is lying, AGAIN? SERIOUSLY? It couldn't be more obvious but since you heard it on teeeeeveeeee and censored social media where companies OPENLY are hiring CIA assholes to be part of their "trusted initiative", you have to be right. Unthinkable they could be lying YET AGAIN.

Tired of you NPCs. If I cared a bit about what you "think", I'd turn on CNN or get onto Facebook. That's the extent of your "thinking".

Hopefully you're just a glowie, that I can respect. Paid propagandists are better than the idiots that work for free.