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2022 Mar 8, 11:35am   79,839 views  535 comments

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AAA Lists Most Expensive States for Gas: 9 of Top 10 Are Run by Democrats
David Hawkins March 8, 2022

According to AAA here are the most expensive states for gas as of Monday:

The American Automobile Association (AAA) has listed the top-ten most expensive states to buy gas, nine of which are run by Democrats.

According to AAA, the national average for a gallon of gas is $4.06 and rising.

The average is now 45 cents more than a week ago, 62 cents more than a month ago, and $1.30 more than a year ago.

And it promises to get worse as the West debates banning Russian oil.

AAA has released a list of the ten states with the most expensive gas prices and most are blue states.

The only red state in the top ten is Alaska, which surprisingly comes in at number 6.

Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis at GasBuddy, said:

“There are few words to describe the unprecedented rise in gasoline prices over the last week, with massive spikes coast to coast in both gasoline and diesel prices, as oil prices jump to their highest since 2008. ...

California: $5.34
Hawaii: $4.69
Nevada: $4.59
Oregon: $4.51
Washington: $4.44
Alaska: $4.39
Illinois: $4.30
Connecticut: $4.28
New York: $4.26
Pennsylvania: $4.23




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176   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 May 25, 2:59pm  

pudil says
So if you live 20 miles away from your minimum wage job in the city because you can’t afford to live closer and you have to spend 2 hours of labor just to drive back and forth then fuck you. Got it.


Because you won't carpool.
177   pudil   2022 May 25, 3:45pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says

Because you won't carpool.


I thought this was a discussion about who would be hurt by $20 gas? I gave a great example of a pretty common situation. That’s the end of the thread.

Now the poors need to carpool to clean your office, cook your food, cut your hair? Okay, sure. Let’s just jack the gas prices to $40 then. They can live in the pods and eat bugs, not going to effect me any.

$20 gas turns us into a 3rd world country and destroys the American dream. Work as hard as you want, you’ll be priced out of any safe urban areas close to work and it will be too expensive to move to the suburbs.
178   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 May 25, 7:07pm  

pudil says
Now the poors need to carpool to clean your office,

How about paying them more to do stuff like that? Like a living wage?

What is so bad with ride sharing, anyway? I did it when I was not struggling financially. Share expenses, share time with others. Less stressful commute. What's not to like? You don't like sharing? I am sorry, that says more about you than it does about the transportation cost.

Besides you missed my point anyway: liquid fuels, what you get for what you pay, the kilojoules or whatever, are dirt cheap, even at $20 per gallon. Doesn't mean folks who arranged their lives around cheap long distance commuting won't be hurt. They will be hurt. Like I said, we will blame everyone except ourselves for the choices we made. Who would you like to blame, homie? You wanna blame me for saying it? Won't change the reality.
179   Eric Holder   2022 May 25, 7:13pm  

pudil says
I thought this was a discussion about who would be hurt by $20 gas?



Everybody to a different degree. But the ones hurt the most are the ones who voted for this shitshow.
180   richwicks   2022 May 25, 10:24pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
pudil says
So if you live 20 miles away from your minimum wage job in the city because you can’t afford to live closer and you have to spend 2 hours of labor just to drive back and forth then fuck you. Got it.


Because you won't carpool.


Oh good lord. There was a company that offered carpooling from Oakland to Mountain View in California - a LOT Of people do this, but it was a complete clusterfuck. I knew a guy that tried it repeatedly, and it was a disaster. People wouldn't show up sometimes, other times, they would have to stay late at work, or leave early from work, there was a guarantee in the app that if you were stranded you could get a Uber or even a taxi to get back home. I doubt that company exists any more.

You can carpool PROVIDED you live next door or very close to a co-worker, you KNOW.
181   richwicks   2022 May 25, 10:26pm  

WookieMan says
I have to ask, who disliked my comment (186). I don't really care, kind of, but seriously, what was to dislike? I get it could come across as bragging about not worrying about fuel, but outside of that, what was to dislike? Methinks someone is a minivan driver.


I didn't do it, but you're out of touch. You're demonstrating obliviousness to blue collar workers.
182   AmericanKulak   2022 May 25, 10:37pm  

pudil says

So if you live 20 miles away from your minimum wage job in the city because you can’t afford to live closer and you have to spend 2 hours of labor just to drive back and forth then fuck you. Got it.

That's basically the Yellow Jackets in France. Pushed further and further away from the city center where their skilled trade jobs (EMT, Mechanic) are, wages frozen, but mass transit constantly hiked to moon while the retirement age is raised and benefits cut.

Macron is President because the spoiled French 68 Generation wants to be sure their pensions stay at any cost to everybody else.
183   Hugh_Mongous   2022 May 25, 10:47pm  

AmericanKulak says
pudil says

So if you live 20 miles away from your minimum wage job in the city because you can’t afford to live closer and you have to spend 2 hours of labor just to drive back and forth then fuck you. Got it.

That's basically the Yellow Jackets in France. Pushed further and further away from the city center where their skilled trade jobs (EMT, Mechanic) are, wages frozen, but mass transit constantly hiked to moon while the retirement age is raised and benefits cut.


Why can't they learn to code?
184   richwicks   2022 May 25, 11:05pm  

AmericanKulak says
Macron is President because the spoiled French 68 Generation wants to be sure their pensions stay at any cost to everybody else.


I doubt Macron is president because of that. He's president because Marie LePen will sit back and allow the election be stolen.
185   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 May 26, 8:41am  

richwicks says
You can carpool PROVIDED you live next door or very close to a co-worker


Did you live here during the BART strikes?
186   richwicks   2022 May 26, 8:45am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

richwicks says
You can carpool PROVIDED you live next door or very close to a co-worker


Did you live here during the BART strikes?


No, I don't think so. I got here in 2000, just in time for the big bust!

My friend tried to carpool a couple years ago, but it just is unworkable. He kept getting stranded, or the person wouldn't show up to pick him up - it was just a mess. He's tried taking the train, but it's too slow and inconvenient.

California has gone too bullshit crazy for him, he's probably going to abandon it. He's got 2 small children, and with the education system here being, frankly crap, he's starting to look at saner and greener pastures.
187   zzyzzx   2022 May 26, 8:53am  

$4.50/gallon in central Maryland.
188   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 May 26, 1:37pm  

richwicks says
B.A.C.A.H. says


Did you live here during the BART strikes?


No, I don't think so. I got here in 2000, just in time for the big bust!


Casual carpooling on a massive scale during the BART strikes. People did it (ridesharing) out of necessity. They did it before out of necessity, they can do so again.

Some here on Patrick's blog get nasty/defensive at me for sharing the simple physics and arithmetic that liquid fuels are a damn cheap bargain, and would be even at $20 per gallon gasoline. Doesn't mean I will like it. My primary vehicle averages 20 mpg. I am/hurt by pricey gasoline too. But that doesn't change the realities of physics and arithmetic.

Using some round numbers for approximation:

A gallon of gasoline has about 100 megajoules of energy. A car operates at about 100 horsepower (hp). One hp-hr is about 2.5 megajoules. One gallon will do the work of four horses for one hour. Where could you get one hour's work of four horses for $20?

It's cheap.

This is why people will ride share if they have to. The alternatives of walking or spending to have horses do our walking for us won't work for the ways most of us have chosen to arrange our lives.

Of course I don't like it. Won't change the reality.

Blame the Arabs. Blame the Russians. Blame the Iranians or the Israelis. Blame India and China. Blame the oil companies, the frackers, the environmentalists, the Democrats, the Republicans. Blame Klaus Schwab, blame Biden, Trump, Hillary, Sacramento. Blame me. Doesn't change the physics nor the math.
189   richwicks   2022 May 26, 2:09pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
Blame the Arabs. Blame the Russians. Blame the Iranians or the Israelis. Blame India and China. Blame the oil companies, the frackers, the environmentalists, the Democrats, the Republicans. Blame Klaus Schwab, blame Biden, Trump, Hillary, Sacramento. Blame me. Doesn't change the physics nor the math.


This shit may have flown if Trump was never president, but he was, and we were oil independent at the end of his term, and Biden was NOT elected.

"Let them eat cake" may be something Marie Antoinette never actually said but creating this problem, which is what our government has done, is dangerous.

There may be a REAL insurrection in 2024.
190   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 May 26, 2:16pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
How about paying them more to do stuff like that? Like a living wage?


Unfortunately that can't work in a system where labor is oversupplied by constantly pouring over illegals. you know supply and demand concept, you smart guy. well, it applies to labor too, if you oversupply labor, what do you think will happen to the poor people who only have labor to trade?

with inflation it isn't just the poor fucked.
191   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 May 26, 2:19pm  

richwicks says
"Let them eat cake" maybe something Marie Antoinette never actually said but creating this problem, which is what our government has done, is dangerous.


What is the problem?

Is the problem the price of oil?

Or is the problem, choices we made to arrange our lives to be stressed out with suburban sprawl (I am one of those), solo commuting in a one ton vehicle?, - that we bought into an unsustainable cheap gasoline car-centric suburban sprawl concept of The American Dream?

There's millions of folks of modest means living their American Dream who work at jobs, have kids in school, save/invest for retirement, and don't depend on purchasing gasoline to do those things. Maybe you know some of them.

Modest means, - ie, not affluent folks buying their way out of the problem with EVs.

I suppose you can blame the government. Blame everyone except ourselves.
192   WookieMan   2022 May 26, 2:40pm  

pudil says

B.A.C.A.H. says

Because you won't carpool.


I thought this was a discussion about who would be hurt by $20 gas? I gave a great example of a pretty common situation. That’s the end of the thread.

Now the poors need to carpool to clean your office, cook your food, cut your hair? Okay, sure. Let’s just jack the gas prices to $40 then. They can live in the pods and eat bugs, not going to effect me any.

$20 gas turns us into a 3rd world country and destroys the American dream. Work as hard as you want, you’ll be priced out of any safe urban areas close to work and it will be too expensive to move to the suburbs.

I won't carpool (don't need to). And yes, $20 gas would imply much bigger issues with the overall economy. Cool if you carpool, but you're likely even more broke if you need to do that and gas prices are $20/gal. And yes, I know driving is a "privilege" blah, blah. I could handle $20/gal no problem, but 80-90% couldn't even cover that to get to work even with carpooling without a full car.

It's not just the price of fuel. Shipping is the biggest industry employment wise in this country. Drivers would get pay cuts and the cost of good would skyrocket even more. This isn't about the teacher or lawyer driving to their work. We'd end up printing more money and causing more problems. Domino effect. Or we could just drill for more oil and up the reserves. That's not this administrations policy. And they're going to get their asses handed to them because of it.
196   Bd6r   2022 May 28, 5:22pm  

HunterTits says

DooDahMan says
Screaming Drill Baby Drill, import more crude, increase fracking production, etc. isn't going to do any good if there is not enough refining capacity - and there isn't because the big oil companies do not make enough money if there is


No. The reason why is because the US basically decided not to build any since the last one in 1978 because of NIMBY environmental reasons.

Now we are paying the price.

Quit posting bullshit fake news.

If bottleneck would be refineries, then gas price should not be impacted by oil price that much? If we are constrained by refinery capacity which is responsible for high gas prices, then why oil price is rising? And why was gas cheap a year or 3 years ago but is expensive now, if the problem is refinery capacity?
198   clambo   2022 May 30, 6:59pm  

Gasoline went up to 21.6 pesos per liter in La Paz, BCS, Mexico.

That’s $4.09 per USA gallon I think.

Interesting that I see new gas stations; previously all of them were Pemex.

I see some old Pemex stations converted to Chevron.
Another one is Repsol.
Some other ones I have forgotten.
200   HeadSet   2022 Jun 2, 2:56pm  

HunterTits says
Do you see room on their digital display for more than one dollar figure when we hit $10+/gallon?

Since it is not a mechanical indicator, I presume they will have to forgo the old 9 tenths and use that space. That is, $8.299 takes up the same space as $10.30.
201   RWSGFY   2022 Jun 2, 3:00pm  

Patrick says








It's actually two cunts who are doing it: pedo Bidet and pedo Vlad.
202   HeadSet   2022 Jun 2, 3:16pm  

RWSGFY says
It's actually two cunts who are doing it: pedo Bidet and pedo Vlad.

If Trump was president, there would have been no Uke invasion and we would be energy independent anyway.
204   richwicks   2022 Jun 2, 6:25pm  

RWSGFY says
It's actually two cunts who are doing it: pedo Bidet and pedo Vlad.


What has been the price of oil in Rubles for the last 3 years?
205   NDrLoR   2022 Jun 2, 7:10pm  

Patrick says

https://notthebee.com/article/gas-is-up-50-cents-in-a-month-to-a-new-all-time-high-thanks-joe
I had been buying gasoline on Thursday at the Alon station around the corner from me for "only" $4.29 for a couple of weeks. Went to fill up today and it was $4.42 so went about two blocks to CEFCO and bought it for $4.29.
209   HeadSet   2022 Jun 4, 10:28am  

Booger says
Gas hits nearly $10 a gallon in California's Mendocino

An Italian guy - "I remember those days of cheap gas, too."
211   Misc   2022 Jun 5, 5:43am  

I thought that all the pumps were only set for sales in single digits for the dollars and that there was going to be a huge Y2K collapse.

I guess we will see soon enough.
212   Booger   2022 Jun 5, 5:58am  

Misc says

I thought that all the pumps were only set for sales in single digits for the dollars and that there was going to be a huge Y2K collapse.

I guess we will see soon enough.

They will start selling gasoline by the quart so that they don't have to add a digit to the pump
213   Booger   2022 Jun 5, 6:00am  

DooDahMan says
How much influence does anyone here think that any Potus actually has on gas prices.


Lots. Keystone pipeline and denied drilling permits are having the 'desired effect' that Biden wants, which is high gas prices.
214   Shaman   2022 Jun 5, 7:28am  

The Defense Production Act could be invoked to induce refineries to make the gas and diesel we needed and prevent it from being offshored. We did it for ventilators and masks, neither of which were needed or helped us.
If Biden wanted to fix this, he could easily do so. These high fuel prices are absolutely by design.
215   clambo   2022 Jun 5, 8:23am  

The answer is natural gas, too bad they didn’t establish places to fill up.
Instead they pushed “electric cars” which actually run on natural gas too in many places.
1000 cubic feet of natural gas is equivalent to 7.87 gallons of gasoline.
1000 cubic feet prices vary; in California it’s $18, in Colorado $9.94, $13 in New York, etc.
I guess 2x1000 cubic feet would be about a tank of gasoline equivalent.
Natural gas requires no refining.

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