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Being Free and wanting to be free are worlds apart imo. Being Free requires no compromises. No debt, imo. Being as healthy as possible, growing your own food and living in a place where you can build your own home without permission. I don't know too many places you can do that.

WineHorror1 says

Being Free and wanting to be free are worlds apart imo. Being Free requires no compromises. No debt, imo. Being as healthy as possible, growing your own food and living in a place where you can build your own home without permission. I don't know too many places you can do that.

But aren't there various degrees of being free? I.e. one could have 0 debt, healthy (no meds), live in a place surrounded by farmland where vegetables and meat are plentiful and available without middlemen, and owning your house outright with property taxes of $35 a year....like in northern Mexico.

But the internet also gives us more power to communicate ways of opposing corporate rule over government.

Is this possible, doable, realistic? Know anyone who had done it?

I don't know. Moving to a rural area as a rentier overlord might have its charms. In Mexico, that would just invite kidnap. Of course, that may be the case here pretty soon, also.

gabbar says

Is this possible, doable, realistic? Know anyone who had done it?

My guess is parts Alaska and the UP (upper peninsula of Michigan) are doable. I'd also think you'd have to have either 1) made a ton of $$ and moved to one of these areas and affording a nice amenity life or 2) moved there with the intention of living close to the land as a way of life as a poor person. Financially poor anyway.

Live well but look like a poor person. That way the people can better relate to you. You can have 500k in the bank but still look and act poor if you have any self control.

komputodo says

Live well but look like a poor person. That way the people can better relate to you. You can have 500k in the bank but still look and act poor if you have any self control.

I already do that here in CA. My car is turning 20 in August.

I’ve been toying with the idea of moving someplace like Missouri or Ohio and buying a farm. The profit from my house could manage that purchase outright, and the wife could work at a local university (she’s a professor) while I do farm stuff. Get some old farm equipment and fix it (I mechanic) and some animals and plant some sort of crop. Have a big old veggie garden and do some canning, raise some chickens, a few cows, and a few pigs. Do the whole farm thing. At this age I sort of crave productive things to do with my time, and also independence so a farm would be ideal.

I’ve been toying with the idea of moving someplace like Missouri or Ohio and buying a farm. The profit from my house could manage that purchase outright, and the wife could work at a local university (she’s a professor) while I do farm stuff. Get some old farm equipment and fix it (I mechanic) and some animals and plant some sort of crop. Have a big old veggie garden and do some canning, raise some chickens, a few cows, and a few pigs. Do the whole farm thing. At this age I sort of crave productive things to do with my time, and also independence so a farm would be ideal.

New cars are the single worst purchase anyone can make. No matter your financial status (maybe billionaire exempted) since you can always buy somethig better with that money, or invest it. One should aim to keep a car for 10-20+ years unless something is seriously wrong with it.

love what is coming in 2026...required kill switches in all cars. Not only that but, the C.A.F.E standard will be 50mpg as well.

WineHorror1 says

love what is coming in 2026...required kill switches in all cars. Not only that but, the C.A.F.E standard will be 50mpg as well.

Yup, I've got a down payment on a Cyber Truck. Just have to wait another 2-3 years but I'll be living close to the plant it's made at. Within a year or so of moving I'm planning to buy land West of San Antonio in the hill country. If I get a cow the property tax on the property goes way way down. Considering it. Also plan to be lake or river front. Then build a house if I don't find something pre-built that I love.

After that buying a cabin in the Mountains in Utah above Lake Powel and a small Yacht in Florida. Plan to spend summer in Utah, Winter in S. Florida and Spring/Fall in TX. All in all it's a 5-7 year plan.

Must be nice to be rich. :)

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