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Is there any truth to the belief that the experimental jabs reduces symptoms?


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2021 Dec 16, 7:31am   1,780 views  52 comments

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We can be certain about 1) the jab does not keep you from getting the China virus and 2) the jab does not keep you from spreading the China virus.

So, the only reason to take the jab could possibly be to keep from dying from a virus that you already have a 99% chance of surviving. Amitight?

Can it be proven that the jab reduces symptoms and/or death?

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32   Misc   2021 Dec 18, 11:42pm  

When I said that Singapore was a shining example of the vaxx working, you quoted some stats from some Clown World website. They are selling the vaxx is dangerous line. Otherwise, they would have included the total number of deaths, not just the daily amounts. This would have destroyed their narrative, however. Am I right?

Last year I was joking that instead of every death being attributed to Covid (like the mainstream media was doing), it was going to be attributed to the vaxx.

I seem to have been right.

If you don't believe statistics directly from national governments, you aren't going to believe any source of information.

I showed you how easy it is to make a false VAERS report. What you don't trust your own lying eyes?
33   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 19, 3:31pm  

Misc says
Oh, here's the bit about Singapore starting to remove the travel restrictions. It took 30 seconds of searching.


You said no one was allowed in, and when they were, it caused covid and deaths. That was never true, and your link proves it. Quarantine doesn't mean no entry. Your argument is baseless, and dangerous, and you are responsible for the consequences.
34   Robert Sproul   2021 Dec 19, 4:25pm  

Misc says
The VAERS system is open for everyone not just doctors or health providers. Anyone can make a posting on it. What has happened is that anti-vaxx propagandaists put in many fake death and debilitating posts.

NOBODY is making false VAERS reports. It takes at least 30 minutes on a cumbersome website that resets at the slightest jiggle, starting you over. All reports ARE verified and fraudulent reports are punishable by law. Many studies have shown that AE’s are underreported by huge factors. The VAERS was considered to be a faulty but valuable reporting system for 30 years until the Vaccine Cult decided it was problematic to have over 20,000 deaths adjacent to vaccination exposed.
35   Shaman   2021 Dec 19, 4:42pm  

Misc says
Continue denying reality.


My sisters friend (and sorta mine) is vax injured from the J&J. She’s disabled with blurry vision, disorientation, shortness of breath, and heart palpitations.
Is she also faking it?
Fuck off, slaver.
36   Bd6r   2021 Dec 19, 5:26pm  

I got covid only after I got vaxxed. Before that, I was in contact with people sick with covid and did not get it. This included a 3 or 4 hr ride in car with a person coughing covid on me.
37   Onvacation   2021 Dec 19, 8:11pm  

Misc says
There has been a huge disinformation campaign against the Covid Vax

Do you think it is safe and effective? even though tens of thousands have died, hundreds of thousands have had serious side effects, and it doesn't give protection from or stop the transmission of the disease?
38   Onvacation   2021 Dec 19, 8:12pm  

Stop the masquerade!
39   Patrick   2021 Dec 19, 8:26pm  

Bd6r says
I got covid only after I got vaxxed. Before that, I was in contact with people sick with covid and did not get it. This included a 3 or 4 hr ride in car with a person coughing covid on me.


I also know someone who works in a hospital and the vaxxed people are catching it now in big numbers.

The vaxx is not effective and absolutely not safe.

It's a crime against humanity.
40   Onvacation   2021 Dec 19, 8:28pm  

NuttBoxer says

How many people do you know personally who have gone to hospital for covid?

For me, two. Both were put on the ventilator. One survived, one died. Both took two doses of the experimental biologic agent.
41   GNL   2021 Dec 19, 8:44pm  

Onvacation says
NuttBoxer says

How many people do you know personally who have gone to hospital for covid?

For me, two. Both were put on the ventilator. One survived, one died. Both took two doses of the experimental biologic agent.

Ha, bet he was surprised, just a bit, by that answer.
42   WookieMan   2021 Dec 19, 9:32pm  

Onvacation says
NuttBoxer says

How many people do you know personally who have gone to hospital for covid?

For me, two. Both were put on the ventilator. One survived, one died. Both took two doses of the experimental biologic agent.

I'm only at one that even went to the doctor to check it out. Everyone else just got tested for work or for some other reason. At least people I personally know or my wife and have talked with about their Covid. Well over 50 cases at this point. My demo of people I know is 30-50.

My mom is almost 70 and has only heard from friends of friends that have been hospitalized. Only have "heard" of two deaths from friends of friends myself. Both elderly and not in good shape from the word go. 2 years now. When in the flying fuck is this over with? My wife and I have a core network that reaches 1k plus. It's not unheard of to put the phone down for 60 minutes and have 100 texts. No one is talking to us about covid anymore. We only hear the BS from the media at this point.
43   porkchopXpress   2021 Dec 20, 9:38am  

Covid is legitimately a treacherous virus if one's natural immune system is compromised in any way, and/or the person is old or obese. I know of a healthy woman who is 45 who was hospitalized with it and wasn't vaccinated, but that scenario seems to be relatively uncommon. I think we need to stop backing ourselves into a corner of analyzing outcomes based on vaxxed and unvaxxed because that assumes the vaxx is the ONLY treatment option. If all of the unvaxxed got on the Rin protocol, for example, the comparison would be comical. But if an unvaxxed person gets Covid and doesn't supplement adequately and is older, fat or immunocompromised, they're definitely rolling the dice.
44   SunnyvaleCA   2021 Dec 20, 12:14pm  

If the question is only "does the jab reduce symptoms" I think the answer is — on average — yes. But that's only a part of answering the question of if you should take the jab or not. Equally important additional questions are about short-term and long-term side effects of the jab and whether those side effects are worth the benefits.

Consider teenage boys... I'll bet the jab reduces symptoms. However, this age group has very low risk of death from covid, so "reducing symptoms" isn't all that beneficial. However, this group has seen some significant short-term side effects. (And who know about the long-term side effects.)

The jab-pushers are now telling us that the benefits wear off after a little as 6 months! So, is it worth risking the short and long term side effects for 6 months of protection? Also, do booster shots incur all that much additional risk, given that you already had the risk imposed with the first shots?

It seems to me that the elderly and morbidly obese need all the protection from covid that they can get. Those groups should probably get the jab. The elderly probably shouldn't worry about the long-term effects, so it's just the benefits verses the (pretty well known) short term risks.

It also seems to me that the young have little to fear from the virus and many decades to fear from the side effects of the jab — so they should probably skip it.

Those who are between the two groups have a tough decision.
45   porkchopXpress   2021 Dec 20, 12:32pm  

SunnyvaleCA says
The jab-pushers are now telling us that the benefits wear off after a little as 6 months! So, is it worth risking the short and long term side effects for 6 months of protection? Also, do booster shots incur all that much additional risk, given that you already had the risk imposed with the first shots?
Especially if there are supplement alternatives proven to work extremely well.
46   clambo   2021 Dec 20, 1:31pm  

A guy I know is a nurse in a Florida hospital.
About 2 months ago he mentioned that a few more people were coming in sick after a lull.
The sickest had usually not taken the shot.
He said nobody who took the shot ended up on a ventilator.
For what it’s worth, his observation was the shot seemed to have a positive effect.
47   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 20, 5:38pm  

Does everyone realize we're discussing whether a shot can even reduce symptoms. That's how fucking low the bar has become in order to justify mass experimentation. Not "does it cure you", not "does it prevent sickness", but if it makes you feel a little bit better when you're sick. This entire thread is a homage to how far standards have fallen when it comes to quality of life. It's a clear admission of defeat, and we're not even a year in to the side affects of the shots. So at this point we don't even know all the short term side affects for sure, and forget about long-term, although anyone with heart damage likely has that for life.

The question of if anyone should take these shots was clearly decided at the outset when we knew the disease was mild, preventable, and treatable without experimentation. Anyone still debating this is not in touch with reality, or entertaining those who have lost touch. It's long past time to move on. Educate ourselves on real health, teach our children, and ensure this is never allowed to happen ever again.
48   Onvacation   2021 Dec 22, 10:35pm  

NuttBoxer says
ensure this is never allowed to happen ever again.

First we have to stop it this time.

They are still pushing the vaxxport. They still require masks. They have not ended the "pandemic".

Not to mention the Orwellian redefining of words.
49   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 23, 9:15am  

Onvacation says
They are still pushing the vaxxport. They still require masks. They have not ended the "pandemic".


Not to overlook what's still going on, but their agenda is mostly dying. Places that would have forced masks no question aren't even asking this time around(in California). As far as the bio-digital convergence, they won't get it from this scamdemic. But they are still on pace for central banking digital currency, other non-integrating technological controls(cameras, cellphones, IP blacklisting, non-bank "fraud" departments, social media), and limiting ability to earn outside their system.

And I wouldn't discount another attempt at biological warfare to push all the above in a new scamdemic. Smallpox has specifically come up recently.

I think there are three fronts we need to attack/teach/learn if we want to prevent slavery. First is understanding how real health works. Second is severing all financial dealings with people or institutions we know do not share our morals. Third learn how to live outside their system. These three areas are vital to our survival as free men.
50   stereotomy   2021 Dec 23, 10:32am  

NuttBoxer says
Does everyone realize we're discussing whether a shot can even reduce symptoms. That's how fucking low the bar has become in order to justify mass experimentation. Not "does it cure you", not "does it prevent sickness", but if it makes you feel a little bit better when you're sick. This entire thread is a homage to how far standards have fallen when it comes to quality of life. It's a clear admission of defeat, and we're not even a year in to the side affects of the shots. So at this point we don't even know all the short term side affects for sure, and forget about long-term, although anyone with heart damage likely has that for life.


WTF? Aspirin will make you "feel better." When are they going to ban aspirin because it works against covid symptoms (and toxxine clotting)?
51   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 23, 4:10pm  

stereotomy says
WTF? Aspirin will make you "feel better." When are they going to ban aspirin because it works against covid symptoms (and toxxine clotting)?


No one has mentioned banning anything. But the ingredients in aspirin can cause liver damage. If you're going to take something I'd go with a drug or supplement that poses the least risks possible, and that's not aspirin.
52   Patrick   2021 Dec 23, 11:14pm  

WineHorror1 says
Can it be proven that the jab reduces symptoms and/or death?


I do not think it can be proven. All the data that says it works comes from clearly corrupt sources like Pfizer and the CDC.

There was an article, I think on Substack, which showed why the official stats on reducing severity are probably bogus.

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