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Windows 7 or 10?


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2021 Aug 7, 3:23pm   1,475 views  36 comments

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My business class Dell Optiplex desktop with Windows 7 has worked flawlessly for the last 10 years. I am interested in replacing it with a Dell Precision desktop because of its age. Would you recommend Windows 7 or Windows 10 operating system on it? My budget is $1500 but its not set in stone.

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16   noobster   2021 Aug 8, 4:28pm  

If you don't have Windows only software you have to run, the Linux mint is very easy to use

Like richwicks said, You could still run virtual box for Windows if you had to.
17   clambo   2021 Aug 8, 4:50pm  

You can also keep windows on a partition of the hard drive next to Linux
18   Patrick   2021 Aug 8, 5:07pm  

noobster says
Opera is owned by Chinese investors


It was invented in Norway. Did the Chinese buy them out?
19   noobster   2021 Aug 8, 8:17pm  

Patrick says
noobster says
Opera is owned by Chinese investors


It was invented in Norway. Did the Chinese buy them out?


Seems to be the case. Are they only skimming profits or are they active in decisions I don't know.

https://forums.opera.com/topic/37155/opera-browser-is-owned-by-a-chinese-company/4
20   NuttBoxer   2021 Aug 9, 1:21pm  

If you insist on a Windows system, 7 can be upgraded to 10 for free, but as 7 is EOL, I don't think you'll be able to purchase it.

If you value freedom and privacy though, I suggest something open source.
21   Karloff   2021 Aug 9, 8:26pm  

I'm also a Linux desktop user. If there's any Windows software I need to run, I run it with a win32 compatibility layer called "Wine". This runs the majority of software. For the handful of programs that won't run this way (they use kernel mode drivers or some odd API calls that wine hasn't implemented yet), I use Win7 in a virtual machine through Linux's native KVM (kernel virtual machine).

Linux has gotten far easier to use over the years. The installers for most distributions are easier to use than Windows'. Hardware support is very good unless you're running bleeding edge, such as a brand new video card model. One weak point can be newer laptop computers when it comes to some of the built-in gadgets like fingerprint readers, webcams, power saving, or hybrid graphics switching.
22   just_passing_through   2021 Aug 10, 5:45am  

noobster says
Like richwicks said, You could still run virtual box for Windows if you had to.


I'd like to be able to run android on a VM within pinephone someday. Perhaps that is already possible. I require certain business apps at times.
23   NuttBoxer   2021 Aug 10, 1:25pm  

just_passing_through says
I'd like to be able to run android on a VM within pinephone someday. Perhaps that is already possible. I require certain business apps at times.


If it's a business app, insist it's hosted on business provided equipment. That way at least you have autonomy between your personal data, and business data.
24   HeadSet   2021 Aug 10, 1:26pm  

Karloff says
If there's any Windows software I need to run, I run it with a win32 compatibility layer called "Wine".

Do you know if WINE can run Access?
25   zzyzzx   2021 Dec 16, 7:34am  

What about Windows 11?
An elderly relative wants to know if they should do the update that their PC keeps nagging them about.
26   richwicks   2021 Dec 16, 7:38am  

zzyzzx says
What about Windows 11?
An elderly relative wants to know if they should do the update that their PC keeps nagging them about.


I wouldn't recommend it. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
27   richwicks   2021 Dec 16, 7:39am  

HeadSet says
Do you know if WINE can run Access?


https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12&source=patrick.net

WINE isn't exactly easy to use though.
28   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 16, 8:08am  

Is their current version EOL? If not, no reason to update. But especially for the elderly, Linux makes the most sense. Find a good flavor, if their used to Windows, there's one that mimics their UI. Set them up with that, and they'll be amazed how much faster their computer gets.
29   charlie303   2021 Dec 16, 8:11am  

I've got Windows 7 and 10, soon to get forcibly upgraded to 11.
I prefer Windows 7 - it's patched and I use Kapersky anti virus.
Windows 10 has all the spyware or telemetry as they call it.
Chris Tech Titus is good for trying to debloat it.

https://www.christitus.com/debloat-windows-10-2020/?source=patrick.net
https://www.youtube.com/c/ChrisTitusTech/videos?source=patrick.net

I'd hang on to all your hardware because if I'm right and we enter an economic depression with supply chain disruption you'll be glad you did.

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30   just_passing_through   2021 Dec 16, 8:15am  

NuttBoxer says
If it's a business app, insist it's hosted on business provided equipment. That way at least you have autonomy between your personal data, and business data.


Nah... VRBO. I need to be able to respond to guests quickly.

I also have smart home software to control the door code on the rental condo. Stuff like that.
31   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 16, 8:22am  

just_passing_through says
Nah... VRBO. I need to be able to respond to guests quickly.

I also have smart home software to control the door code on the rental condo. Stuff like that.






There's definitely Android emulators, since devs need to test their apps.
32   just_passing_through   2021 Dec 16, 8:29am  

NuttBoxer says
There's definitely Android emulators, since devs need to test their apps.


Well, good for me then as at some point I'll be buying a pine phone most likely. Those de-googled android phones are pretty interesting as well.
33   NuttBoxer   2021 Dec 16, 8:34am  

just_passing_through says
Well, good for me then as at some point I'll be buying a pine phone most likely. Those de-googled android phones are pretty interesting as well.


Graphene OS is one of the most secure one's I've heard of, but requires an non-boot locked pixel.
34   richwicks   2021 Dec 16, 8:52am  

NuttBoxer says
Is their current version EOL? If not, no reason to update. But especially for the elderly, Linux makes the most sense. Find a good flavor, if their used to Windows, there's one that mimics their UI.


I wouldn't bother mimicking the Windows UI.

I would suggest Lubuntu: https://lubuntu.me/downloads/?source=patrick.net

It's fairly easy to use, and it's clean. Most people just want a web browser working so they can access email and browse the web. Install Firefox and Brave on it - make desktop icons for those, and you're done.

I'd also recommend trying out different distributions by running them on virtual machines first. This gives you (a pretty good) idea of the capabilities of the OS.

If you really want to find a linux that looks like Windows, there's plenty of them out there, but I've not really tried any. I STRONGLY suggest putting one on a VM to see how well you can deal with it, before making a commitment.
35   Automan Empire   2021 Dec 16, 9:32am  

I ran XP on my legacy work system until the point when webpages would refuse to open to an XP machine. Been on 7 since and watched them push 10 out, flawed and unready for market like always. Never used Linux so can't offer any comparison there.
36   porkchopXpress   2021 Dec 16, 11:23am  

I'm still on Vista because, well, I like a challenge.

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