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Instead of $1000 per month, why didn't they go for $10000 per month and end poverty altogether?


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2021 Jul 19, 12:43pm   927 views  20 comments

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Looks like they are trying to buy votes, but they are only ponying up $35 million.

Just wait till they try it out on a scale greater than 3000 people.

https://www.businessinsider.com/california-approves-guaranteed-income-program-for-residents-2021-7

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1   Patrick   2021 Jul 19, 1:00pm  

The only reason our owners have power over us is that we are forced to work for them to eat, to have a place to live, etc. That is, we are forced to obey a boss, and that boss is part of a company, and our owners are those who own that company's stock in large amounts.

If we didn't have to obey bosses, then our owners would have no power over us, and our owners would therefore not be rich. Unacceptable to them.

Wealth is servants, the power to get people to work for you, to do your bidding, whether through fair trade of goods and services, or whether that's through regulatory capture in DC, preventing fair trade.
2   Misc   2021 Jul 19, 1:14pm  

Our elites are so divorced from the common person that they do not understand that it is people working that gives the currency any value at all.

Therefore, they have this belief that they can just give certain segments of the population money for nothing and solve societal ills.

They are starting with $1000 per month for about 3000 people out of a population in California of 40 million. That $35 million won't change many peoples attitudes, but wait until they try to scale it.
3   Hircus   2021 Jul 19, 1:35pm  

I knew it. This past year there's been a leftist media campaign writing positively about the wonderful success of the UBI programs in stockton and 2 other places. I said they would use those to justify larger "trials" and keep scaling up.

These trials are fucking bullshit. They handpick people and fudge the results. They're designed to be short and emphasize the positive, while hiding the negative effects.

These $1k / mo payments will attract illegals to CA where they can safely have their anchor babies, safe from ICE. When these pregnancy payments run out, the new Xoe Briben $300-600 per month child payments kick in, until theyre 18. Dont forget welfare and free health care for them too.

CA democrats FUCKING LOVE illegals.
4   Eric Holder   2021 Jul 19, 1:39pm  

DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS!
5   Eric Holder   2021 Jul 19, 1:40pm  

Hircus says
his past year there's been a leftist media campaign writing positively about the wonderful success of the UBI programs in stockton and 2 other places


That cunt - Stockton mayor - has been fucking booted out this last election. Mostly for that UBI bullshit.
6   WookieMan   2021 Jul 19, 1:47pm  

Hircus says
Xoe Briben $300-600 per month child payments kick in

I don't want anything for my kids. Tax credits or payments. Leave me the fuck alone and I'll raise them just fine. My wife and I are not lazy. We'll make money.

It truly is pure vote buying of the less intelligent. They're just too dumb to know it. I really don't think you can unwind this. The classes have been successfully separated it seems.
7   FarmersWon   2021 Jul 19, 2:55pm  

Patrick says
The only reason our owners have power over us is that we are forced to work for them to eat, to have a place to live, etc. That is, we are forced to obey a boss, and that boss is part of a company, and our owners are those who own that company's stock in large amounts.

If we didn't have to obey bosses, then our owners would have no power over us, and our owners would therefore not be rich. Unacceptable to them.

Wealth is servants, the power to get people to work for you, to do your bidding, whether through fair trade of goods and services, or whether that's through regulatory capture in DC, preventing fair trade.


The issues is that even in poorly performing unproductive communist society, elites still live good.
Solution is to get our rightful share and not stop producing.
8   Patrick   2021 Jul 19, 3:13pm  

farmer2021 says
Solution is to get our rightful share and not stop producing.





One good reason to be rich is that only the rich are politically free.

Everyone else has to worry about getting fired for saying something true that contradicts the Religion of Wokeism.
9   FarmersWon   2021 Jul 19, 3:21pm  

Patrick says
farmer2021 says
Solution is to get our rightful share and not stop producing.





One good reason to be rich is that only the rich are politically free.

Everyone else has to worry about getting fired for saying something true that contradicts the Religion of Wokeism.


I think when people train their guns at aristocrats for diving us, Things will change for better.
Hating each other is very counterproductive.

Once mental slavery is removed, physical slavery doesn't last too long.
I am not sure why overlords have turned up a volume on "conflict creation".. May be they are sensing uprising or they would like to dial up control.
10   SunnyvaleCA   2021 Jul 19, 4:19pm  

News item: Biden directs ICE to not detain pregnant and nursing "immigrants"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/09/biden-directs-ice-avoid-detention-pregnant-nursing-immigrants/7914732002/

Note also that the California bill is for "residents" who are pregnant.
12   ForcedTQ   2021 Jul 19, 8:04pm  

WookieMan says
Hircus says
Xoe Briben $300-600 per month child payments kick in

I don't want anything for my kids. Tax credits or payments. Leave me the fuck alone and I'll raise them just fine. My wife and I are not lazy. We'll make money.

It truly is pure vote buying of the less intelligent. They're just too dumb to know it. I really don't think you can unwind this. The classes have been successfully separated it seems.


This is true, it is bullshit propaganda to confuse the ignorant and incapable of critical thinking. For example, the standard increased child credit for those filing jointly increased last year or year previous to $2000. The increase of $1,000 to $1,600 on top of that is what MFJs making less than $182,000 are eligible to get based on age of kid, and only fully if your AGI is $150,000 or less. Now these motherfuckers at the White House sent out a letter in an official IRS envelope that states that individuals making more than the 182 cutoff are getting auto deposits of $166.66 every two weeks for the next 24 weeks starting July 15th. All that is is the std $2k being sent out to you before tax time, but they don’t say that in the letter. TPTB trying to make ignorant mofos feel like they are doing something for them.
13   WookieMan   2021 Jul 19, 8:17pm  

ForcedTQ says
All that is is the std $2k being sent out to you before tax time, but they don’t say that in the letter

People are dumb. Life is more fucked up than anyone realizes. I've gotten $0 for kids or stimulus. My wife alone employs 20 people at prevailing wage at about $37/hour/employee. But hey, we get fucked. We don't own the business, but she's the business revenue wise for the company. We have to make due while everyone is getting money dropped in their laps.

We're putting money in the bank accounts of non-producers versus producers. Give my family $5,600 stimulus and I'll turn it into more money. Not just spend it on fucking shoes and junk. I'm not jealous and don't want it, but it's fucked up. No one should be getting anything.
14   ForcedTQ   2021 Jul 19, 8:31pm  

WookieMan says
ForcedTQ says
All that is is the std $2k being sent out to you before tax time, but they don’t say that in the letter

People are dumb. Life is more fucked up than anyone realizes. I've gotten $0 for kids or stimulus. My wife alone employs 20 people at prevailing wage at about $37/hour/employee. But hey, we get fucked. We don't own the business, but she's the business revenue wise for the company. We have to make due while everyone is getting money dropped in their laps.

We're putting money in the bank accounts of non-producers versus producers. Give my family $5,600 stimulus and I'll turn it into more money. Not just spend it on fucking shoes and junk. I'm not jealous and don't want it, but it's fucked up. No one should be getting anything.


Agree. These assholes are also fucking up the financially responsible taxpayers plans that have the correct amount of withholding set so they aren’t giving the .Gubmint an interest free loan. Go through the motions and have to file a revised W4 to deal with the child credit prepay horseshit. More wasting our fucking time.
15   Misc   2021 Jul 20, 3:58am  

... But wait there's more,

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/california-gov-gavin-newsom-signed-a-bill-dedicating-a-record-12-billion-to-homelessness/ar-AAMkRPg

Oh, was that your hard earned tax money going to be spent at about $75k per homeless person. They will be living large. Pity those idiots that actually work menial jobs when they can just become homeless and enjoy the bounties.

What could possibly go wrong?

When I say the elites are divorced from reality, I mean they are brain dead.
16   zzyzzx   2021 Jul 20, 5:00am  

ForcedTQ says
.Gubmint an interest free loan.


More importantly, am I ever going to get this year's tax refund?
17   WookieMan   2021 Jul 20, 5:04am  

Misc says
Oh, was that your hard earned tax money going to be spent at about $75k per homeless person. They will be living large. Pity those idiots that actually work menial jobs when they can just become homeless and enjoy the bounties.

Jesus, CA is fucked up the more you guys post about it. If you keep giving people free money they didn't earn, they'll become less productive. It's a never ending cycle. People capable of working won't work.

I'm okay with some short term benefits if you got laid off, but people making $149k getting $300/kids is a fucking joke. Getting $5,600 earlier this year for a family of 4. My neighbors that don't understand birth control received $14,000 at the start of the year. They'll now get $2,400/mo for the kids. They kids never hang out with other kids. I'm sure they're feeding them ramon or some other cheap ass food. And it's not the kids fault but my tax dollars are now going to raise their kids while who knows WTF they're doing with this free money. I know they don't pay a dime in Federal or State taxes either. They get paid to have kids and probably not work.

The other thing big blue states won't dare to mention, the shortage of labor isn't all because of covid and paying people to sit on their ass. It's because people are leaving your state. Best bartender/server I've ever met just left our local establishment in June. Knew your name, knew what you wanted to drink, knew what the kids wanted and drank. He moved to Florida. Us and our friends liked him so much we pooled together a $400 gift card for him and his wife. In just two months the place has already started to go downhill. Cut back menu, sloooooooow service. Talking 2 hour meals.

We're at a tipping point. I'm not optimistic at all. And this has nothing to do with Biden or Trump for me. Something ain't right. We've printed a lot of money that capable people didn't deserve that both of the Presidents printed along with Congress. I hate Bush, but it seems like this became common under Obama with cash for clunkers and first time home buying credit.
18   richwicks   2021 Jul 20, 4:00pm  

HunterTits says
Notice how the article doesn't say shit about what exactly it will used for?


It will be used to buy $35,000 tents.

Seriously.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/S-F-officials-want-15-million-for-tent-sites-16269998.php

I live on less than that per year, by quite a measure. It's just a grift, another scam.
19   seesaw   2021 Jul 20, 4:56pm  

we all know this is all a ruze...
Enabling all these people with $$$ is fricking wrong... it sends the wrong message of how our country was founded. I fricking work for 45 years, and Joe Bloe Biden gives my tax money to people who dont give a shit... I'm pissed at that.. and dont even get me started on Bernie Sanders... the Punk Ass never did anything productive for America... never worked a productive job. Hates hard working people and Business owners... Just Tax, Tax, Tax...
20   Misc   2021 Jul 27, 10:37pm  

...but wait some people are still sending them extra coin

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newsom-signs-bill-granting-taxpayer-funded-healthcare-to-elderly-illegal-immigrants/ar-AAMDnxf?li=BBnbfcL

Fortunately this will further impede the illegals from wanting to come to California. Free health care for illegals, but YOU pay for it.

If you send politicians extra tax money...they will spend it...and not on what you want.

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