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Great update on Israel: the mRNA guys don't even make it to 42% against Delta


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2021 Jul 24, 6:22pm   724 views  6 comments

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Contrary to last month's optimism on it being ~64% effective against Delta infections ...

https://www.newstwo.net/2021/07/24/israel-pfizer-vaccine-allows-infection-but-prevents-severe-illness

Excerpt: "A new study released this week from Israel’s Health Ministry found that while the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is highly effective at preventing severe COVID-19 cases caused by the delta variant, it was much less effective than the health agency previously thought at protecting people from infection.

The study, conducted from June 20 to July 17, with results released in a report Thursday, found that the two-dose Pfizer-BioNTech inoculation was roughly 88 percent effective at preventing hospitalization due to the delta variant and about 91 percent effective at protecting against severe cases.

However, the Israeli health agency said that for symptomatic COVID-19 cases, the vaccine was found to offer just about 41 percent protection against the delta variant, with an overall effectiveness of 39 percent for preventing delta variant infections.

The new percentage is much lower than the 64 percent effectiveness against delta variant infections that Israel reported earlier this month."

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This was predicted by Dr Yeadon of Pfizer, who warned that asymmetric immune response (via the mRNA pathway towards herd immunity, in the middle of a moving target, the Pandemic), could leave the body less capable of dealing with new variants which could evade the immune cells as there'll be fewer of them, non-specific for the original alpha-beta Spiked variant.

Sure, not the smoking gun that the vaccine program failed but it does indicate that the whole "twice jabbed and everything's fine, because the delta is only carried by the non-vaccinated", doesn't hold up well.

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1   porkchopXpress   2021 Jul 25, 9:09am  

It does appear the the jabs help prevent death and hospitalization, but I don’t think it’s significant. The risk of other issues outweighs any benefit in my opinion.
2   Onvacation   2021 Jul 25, 9:25am  

porkchopexpress says
It does appear the the jabs help prevent death and hospitalization, but I don’t think it’s significant.

But how do we know?

The CDC has proven itself unreliable.
3   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2021 Jul 25, 9:33am  

The gene therapies stated efficacy concerns only hospitalizations and death, not resistance to infection and not transmissibility.

In spite of what president brain dead says, and even somewhat shockingly the CDC director has said, the vaccinated can become infected. So the vaccines prevent events that are very rare in the young and healthy. And they may create a competive advantage to variants with mutated spike protein binding site sequences, causing a flourishing of previously non-advantaged resistant variants. If you are over 75 with significant co-morbidities, by alll means get vaccinated, and continually, as it is turning out. If you are morbidly obese, get vaccinated and consider laying off the carbs.
4   mell   2021 Jul 25, 9:37am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says
The gene therapies stated efficacy concerns only hospitalizations and death, not resistance to infection and not transmissibility.

In spite of what president brain dead says, and even somewhat shockingly the CDC director has said, the vaccinated can become infected. So the vaccines prevent events that are very rare in the young and healthy. And they may create a competive advantage to variants with mutated spike protein binding site sequences, causing a flourishing of previously non-advantaged resistant variants. If you are over 75 with significant co-morbidities, by alll means get vaccinated, and continually, as it is turning out. If you are morbidly obese, get vaccinated and consider laying off the carbs.


Actually I expect the vaccinated to do worse if a variant with an enough mutated s protein shows up so that the Trojan horse effect comes into play. It looks like the "delta" variant is still disabled in enough quantities by the "vaccine" to not cause some form of ADE.
5   Rin   2021 Jul 25, 10:33am  

Here's the thing, the so-called Delta variant is only some 6+ months old (alleged birth date 12/2020) and now, only in July, there's a newer Lamba variant in the field.

What that's saying is that this is a moving target, much like the cold (rhinovirus) and that a singular vaccine is only as good as half a year which is why there's no annual 'cold' shot unlike the flu where there's an ability to predict and line up the most probable strains for a given year.
6   Ceffer   2021 Jul 25, 10:49am  

Variants are just choosing different beginning sequence of fragmented virus at random of an entity that nobody has samples of and nobody can culture. Just more fakery and smoke and mirrors to keep the political oppression going.

No science, just assertion fallacies for the huddled Covid Quakers.

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