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Robber Baron Elite Scum says

Get away and get lost. I do not want you in my vicinity or deal with your stupid bullshit.

Sales tactic I'm sure. Haven't been into an Apple store in ages though. Some people are introverts and won't ask for help and a sale is lost. It's not necessarily about "selling" either. Just making contact so they feel like they have a person to go to if they end up wanting something.

All that said, I also hate it. There's a high probability I know more about the product and what I need to do with it at an Apple store than the employee that walks up to me. Just got a new phone after dumping my old one in water boating last weekend. Maybe I look older now, but the guy was like "do you want me to show you how to use it?" WTF? Why would I need some 25 year old to show me how to use a phone I've been using over a decade, since probably right around the time the guy was playing t-ball.

Actually it is one of the benefits of a Target or Walmart. The employees are so shitty they won't bother you. It's just the other fucked up people/customers that are the problem. Given I live 20-30 min from big box, I generally try to shop on the vendors website and not some chain store like Walmart or Target. I get nicer underwear and socks for example and just go straight to the source/site. I don't go to Kohl's or other clothing retailers.

I don’t remember apple firing employees for not being 100% pure sjw, yet today cancel culture runs Apple hr department

Fortwaynemobile says

I don’t remember apple firing employees for not being 100% pure sjw, yet today cancel culture runs Apple hr department

If the Apple employees approach, just throw your hands up and scream “racial profiling” at the top of your lungs! They’ll run screaming in fear of their own coworkers.

Shaman says

Fortwaynemobile says

I don’t remember apple firing employees for not being 100% pure sjw, yet today cancel culture runs Apple hr department

If the Apple employees approach, just throw your hands up and scream “racial profiling” at the top of your lungs! They’ll run screaming in fear of their own coworkers.

Lol!!!

Apple always seemed like a cult to me.

Yet the products are pretty good, though deliberately restrictive and technically obscure.

Better than Android anyway.

One day I'll get a nice Linux phone.

Jobs had taste, and didn't disrespect the customer.

Now there's probably a guy calculating how many "may I help you"s translate into a sale.

Bean counters may be taking over.

I like Apple Employees. I never go there and don't know any, but my wife tortures them within an inch of their lives with her incessant 'operator error' madness. I figure that's what they are there for, and I don't have to deal with her. It's worth the money.

I have a lot of experience in retail sales. I don't know anything about apple, and I've only been in an apple store maybe twice like 10 yrs ago, but many retailers have very specific rules & procedures which govern how their sales employees are to interact with customers. Stuff like greeting each customer with X seconds of entering the area, asking certain questions to every customer, offering certain accessories, products, and services to each customer, offering setup help to everyone, asking for the sale, etc...

Often, the rules are so detailed, and depending on the manager who dictates how strictly they must adhere to the process, many sales employees complain about feeling robotic (because sometimes, asking certain questions / offering certain things is just out of place, yet they MUST do it). Sometimes customers can be quite put off by it, and I've never blamed them. Managers will often observe these interactions with a checklist, ready to ding their employees who deviate from the process.

Customers preferences are very diverse though. Many dislike being approached, but there's also just as many that will feel offended if they aren't. Especially if they can see idle employees standing around and chatting - those customers can get quite upset and leave, often pretending not to be upset, and will often hold a grudge.

I felt like the rise of ecommerce made retail stores higher pressure. Maybe they figured those who dont like to talk to sales staff will just order online, while those who want to talk will come in and ask a sales employee for help and follow their recommendation, kinda filtering retail customers into a certain type more open to interaction.

Apple is a pile of shit. At my latest gig for the first time since 99 I've been forced to use an Apple Machine. Macbook Pro, just a buggy pile of garbage. Developers all over the company are having problems with them.

There have been so many undercover sting ops where people go into those scammer 'genius' bars with a $5 part causing a problem and the sales ass lies about it and tells them they have to buy a brand new machine. Or they open it and say it has water damage and they won't support the warranty. So. Many. Vids. Like. That.

I don't know who'd want to buy their shit other than cult people.

Just watch some of this guy's videos on youtube: https://www.rossmanngroup.com/

HunterTits says

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

Whenever you are using their Macs on display they always do this...

Before when Steve Jobs was in charge, they never did this... unless you sought them.

It's annoying.

Fuck humans.

Get away and get lost. I do not want you in my vicinity or deal with your stupid bullshit.

English please.

You walk in. They come up to you to ask if you need any help. They didn’t used to do that.

Proper response is to accuse them of racial profiling and demand store manager apologizes for running such a racist establishment.

When the Apple genius trannies start setting upon you in the restroom, I'll start to worry about it.

I made this thread on a MacBook Air. I am scum.

What’s wrong with saying, “no I don’t need any help”

Or if you really want to make a statement, don’t even look their way, completely ignore them.

just_passing_through says

Apple is a pile of shit. At my latest gig for the first time since 99 I've been forced to use an Apple Machine. Macbook Pro, just a buggy pile of garbage. Developers all over the company are having problems with them.

I'm not a developer, but I've most certainly made substantially more money with Apple. They work. Mind you I don't do super technical stuff, but I just need something that doesn't need to be rebooted every day because it freezes up from god knows what.

I know there are other platforms, but Microsoft sucks. Time is money. If I pay double or triple and don't have to dick with issues, that's value in the fields the wife and I work in. A damn computer problem costs us $100-200/hr messing with it. It pays for itself. Simplicity is sometimes better unless you're a developer, but Apple has all the same shit any OS does for the most part.

just_passing_through says

Apple is a pile of shit. At my latest gig for the first time since 99 I've been forced to use an Apple Machine. Macbook Pro, just a buggy pile of garbage. Developers all over the company are having problems with them.

Out here in silicon valley software developers cost $200k/year, so productivity is much more important than hardware/software costs. Macintosh computers and macOS are very popular. Certified UNIX OS with excellent POSIX compliance is the right combination for many development scenarios. Laptop hardware is no more expensive than top-of-the-line laptops from other big names, and maintaining a fleet of laptops is easier because the hardware doesn't continuously change without notice. Facebook, Google, VMWare, eBay, Amazon, and plenty of other big names allow their employees to choose hardware and OS ... and nearly all of them go with Macintosh and macOS for most of their daily work. Obviously, my company demands Macintosh and macOS for almost everything; in fact, the security requirements for not running macOS are very strict if you want to run inside the firewall.

When I started my business, I networked the office, printers, remote viewers, cameras etc. with FileMaker Pro based software (billing, estimates etc.) in a couple of days by myself and refined as I went along. I never once needed to have any IT expert come in, never used Apple even for phone calls or assistance. It was very cheap, I used older macs and imacs that worked just fine.

I had worked in an office for a Chinese boss who had a sister in law who was an IT person. He hired her to network his office and put in modern software systems. She spent over a month trying to get a network set up for him using Windows NT stuff. She was in there for hours every day, and it was painful to watch her. Even two months later, she was in there trying to debug shit that didn't work. They eventually got it off the ground, but like many places, needed expensive subscription help to debug and keep things going.

The purchasers of my business figured i was lame fogey, so they threw out my perfectly functioning systems to adopt internet connective systems. They suffered strange and interminable grief and expense with it for a long time, but, they were completely modernized!

So, hate it or love it, Apple stuff works. I am no code monkey, I just deal with the user interface.