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How did we lose our freedom of speech?


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2021 Apr 24, 9:40am   1,834 views  36 comments

by FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   ➕follow (3)   💰tip   ignore  

Seriously been pondering this. There are groups and people no one is allowed to criticize or cancel culture nazis come and cancel you. There are words people aren’t allowed to say... depending on whom is saying it and whom ruling class protects. Problems you are not allowed to point out.

Slow erosion of rights. How the fuck did we get here?

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16   Patrick   2021 Apr 24, 11:13pm  

Voting with dollars is probably more effective in America now than voting with votes.

It is a power remaining to us, and we should use it as much as we can.
17   Onvacation   2021 Apr 25, 8:40am  

ThreeBays says
educated liberals

Is that like "jumbo shrimp?
18   RWSGFY   2021 Apr 25, 9:55am  

ThreeBays says
Onvacation says
ThreeBays says
educated liberals

Is that like "jumbo shrimp?


That would be an educated conservative.



Useless without separation between real and BS education.
19   Onvacation   2021 Apr 25, 10:19am  

Liberals are OK. They don't want to take my freedoms.

It's those progressives that want to fundamentally change America that I have a problem with.
20   mell   2021 Apr 25, 10:33am  

Onvacation says
Liberals are OK. They don't want to take my freedoms.

It's those progressives that want to fundamentally change America that I have a problem with.


Right the original liberals are today's conservatives/libertarians. What the lamestream fake news leftoid media dubs as liberal are batshit insane retard leftoid marxists.
21   RWSGFY   2021 Apr 25, 10:35am  

ThreeBays says
FuckCCP89 says
Useless without separation between real and BS education.


You're welcome to share other data.


That data is supressed so there is no way for me obtain and share it. But the very fact that the breakdown by type of edumacation is omitted in your data speaks volumes.
22   just_passing_through   2021 Apr 25, 11:32am  

FuckCCP89 says
Useless without separation between real and BS education.


That's a great point! Not really any more informative than breaking down between who drives red cars vs. blue cars. Except maybe that:

1. Majority of people are indoctrinated.
2. People who have only a HS education are less likely to be indoctrinated but still 52% apparently are.

Reminds me of the statistic: Teenage pregnancy drops precipitously after age 18.
23   just_passing_through   2021 Apr 25, 12:09pm  

ThreeBays says
via denial of science


Said the non-scientist to the scientist.
24   mell   2021 Apr 25, 12:51pm  

ThreeBays says
Republican politics is a dying breed. Older base that's dying, the base also is suicidal via denial of science, and then if Biden offers free college that will influence future young voters.

What will be the new ballgame? Alt-right activism (aka Trolling) had it's turn and backfired during the era of covid.


If you're talking mainstream Republicans then yes but otherwise the Trump fraction has never been doing better, you just don't hear about it in the lamestream media. It's just the D/R uniparty that is under attack from leftoids and new American patriots.
25   Shaman   2021 Apr 25, 12:54pm  

just_passing_through says
ThreeBays says
via denial of science


Said the non-scientist to the scientist.


Yah lately it’s been the Left that’s actively denying and censoring science and scientists who want to do science without filtering it first through left wing politics. Left owns such gems as gender denial, denial of vaccine risks, pro-masks and lockdowns which have been tried and proven ineffective, and also continued closure of schools when that was thoroughly debunked by scientists as a very bad idea.

Left can’t deal with truth and science is the means of discovering and expressing truth.
26   Onvacation   2021 Apr 25, 1:12pm  

ThreeBays says
Republican politics is a dying breed.

Thank God!

The way the republicans and democrats have sold out this country is scary. It seems that most of our "representatives" are compromised puppets.

We need to get back to the principles of freedom and liberty that our founders founded our country upon.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
27   stereotomy   2021 Apr 25, 3:07pm  

How far we have come. At least as far as Patrick.net, there was outrage over mortgage fraud. Now what are we dealing with? Election fraud, big pharma fraud (opioid addiction), NSA fraud (Snowden, universal surveillance), media collapse and subsequent fraud/propaganda, election fraud 2020, Covid fraud, lockdown fraud . . . the list goes on.

Stop this merry go round - I want to get off.
28   Patrick   2021 Apr 25, 5:35pm  

Onvacation says
ThreeBays says
educated liberals

Is that like "jumbo shrimp?


To be "educated" in America is to prove your subservience, obedience, and willingness to suspend reason in order to please your masters.

The more "educated" you are, the more terrified you are of being accused of independent thought:

https://patrick.net/post/1338725/2021-04-07-the-elite-are-the-most-likely-to-censor

As Nassim Taleb puts it, we have a whole class, tens of millions of "intellectual yet idiot" people:

https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577
29   PeopleUnited   2021 Apr 25, 7:18pm  

Before we can discuss where freedom of speech was lost and the hows and why’s we must remember how freedom of speech was won. It was won by people who pledged their lives and fortunes and sacred honor to throw off the rulers who sought to infringe on those inalienable rights.

The right to free speech was won with fire, violence, printing presses, pulpits, swords, boats, bayonets, bombs and arms. It was won by people willing to risk all, because they believed that living free was worth fighting and dying for. They believed that death was better than life under rule of tyrants. They gave us a Republic where it is the responsibility of the people to preserve and defend it.

Did our people preserve and defend it?
30   GreaterNYCDude   2021 Apr 26, 8:36am  


Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Quite possibly one of the most important paragraphs ever written. We're not nearly at "absolute despotisim" yet in my view, but the overall trend has not been good as of late. (That is to say the long slow decline over the past 20 to 25 years)
31   GreaterNYCDude   2021 Apr 26, 9:23am  

GreaterNYCDude says

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Quite possibly one of the most important paragraphs ever written. We're not nearly at "absolute despotisim" yet in my view, but the overall trend has not been good as of late. (That is to say the long slow decline over the past 20 to 25 years)
32   PeopleUnited   2021 Apr 26, 10:30am  

GreaterNYCDude says
We're not nearly at "absolute despotisim" yet in my view


When one person can unilaterally decide which businesses/schools can open or must close, Or prohibit churches from holding events, and force face diapers as a condition of travel and business I’d say we are already there.

When private businesses collude to prevent truth about a candidate from reaching the public and the justice department colludes with one party and all of mainstream media to impeach a president based on lies I’d say we are already there.

When election laws are violated without any willingness of the courts to hear the cases, I’d say we are already there.
33   AmericanKulak   2021 Apr 26, 11:32am  

stereotomy says
How far we have come. At least as far as Patrick.net, there was outrage over mortgage fraud. Now what are we dealing with? Election fraud, big pharma fraud (opioid addiction), NSA fraud (Snowden, universal surveillance), media collapse and subsequent fraud/propaganda, election fraud 2020, Covid fraud, lockdown fraud . . . the list goes on.

Stop this merry go round - I want to get off.


I wanna get on the Xanadu timeline where I can rollerskate around all day to ELO and drink a beer with Gene Kelly talking about the girls' tight little asses.
34   AmericanKulak   2021 Apr 26, 11:33am  

farmer2021 says
So who are elites among Jews?
Zionists?


Woke Leftist Jews are ANTI-Zionist.

Just like Congress Party in India is ANTI-Hindu.
35   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Apr 27, 8:46am  

Fortwaynemobile says
Seriously been pondering this. There are groups and people no one is allowed to criticize or cancel culture nazis come and cancel you. There are words people aren’t allowed to say... depending on whom is saying it and whom ruling class protects. Problems you are not allowed to point out.

Slow erosion of rights. How the fuck did we get here?


The liberals abandoned their core values and sucked on the teets of the hard left. Once the ACLU no longer actually stood for defending civil liberties, it was all over.

Moronic assholes.
36   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Apr 27, 8:55am  

ThreeBays says
Patrick says
Onvacation says
ThreeBays says
educated liberals

Is that like "jumbo shrimp?


To be "educated" in America is to prove your subservience, obedience, and willingness to suspend reason in order to please your masters.

The more "educated" you are, the more terrified you are of being accused of independent thought:

https://patrick.net/post/1338725/2021-04-07-the-elite-are-the-most-likely-to-censor

As Nassim Taleb puts it, we have a whole class, tens of millions of "intellectual yet idiot" people:




Intellectuals abandoned free speech as a core tenant. It morphed to speech that doesn’t offend and now to speech deemed suitable by the corporate establishment as dictated by the educated pink and blue haired fascists.

Vilifying intellectuals will happen if the right abandons the constitutions and strikes back at the Democrats using the Dems own playbook. None of us want that, but I guarantee you that as much as the moronic left( IE millenials) is ok with communism:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/for-millennials-socialism-and-communism-are-hot-capitalism-is-not-2019-10-28

There’s an good number of religious conservatives who would be a-ok with Gilead https://the-handmaids-tale.fandom.com/wiki/Republic_of_Gilead_(Novel)

The few remaining liberals shouldn’t have been such shitheads. They went from guardians of individual liberties to quelching free speech, in quite rapid fashion

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