patrick.net

Let's pick it apart. First, claims made in the editorial preamble prior to the meat of the article :

Claim 1 ) no Modern Candidate has refused to concede. Gore didn't concede until 12/13. By this logic Trump has not refused to concede either.

Claim 2) The State Department invited the Organization of American States (OAS) to observe and the observers found no evidence of fraud. Did you read the OAS report? I did. It was issued on 11/6. Considering travel time allowances this is a highly efficient organization, no? They had 28 members in four states (including Michigan and Georgia). That's 7 members per state. That's 7 observers per hundreds of polling locations. The report goes into detail about how their people observed social distancing and 'safety guidelines' 'recommended' by the polling locations. This sounds similar to Republican poll watchers who were not allowed within 20 feet of a ballot. The main claim of the report is that the voting was conducted in a peaceful manner. Short of them being ushered into the back room where the ballots were being printed, I don't think they would have found evidence of fraud. In short, this sounds more like a junket to the U.S. than an actual fact finding mission.

Claim 3) NYT spoke to "top" election officials in 49 of 50 states - NO FRAUD played a part in the outcome. Unable to verify - this is behind a paywall.

Claim 4) Unprecedented Statement by "ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES" that this was the most secure election ever. Well, CISA didn't exist until 2018 so this is an unprecedented statement, I'll give you that. Also, this is the same CISA that an October 2020 report from the Inspector General criticizes for "making limited progress improving the quality of information it shares with AIS participants to effectively reduce cyber threats and protect against attacks". This is the same CISA who's head was fired by Trump a few days ago. If I were his boss I would have fired him too. Massive election fraud and this guy can't seem to find any problem. Dude, you had ONE JOB.

Claim 5) Loyola Law School Professor Investigated EVERY election EVER and found only 31 instances of fraud. Wow, Except he only studied 2000 to 2014. We're in 2020. Kind of seems desperate to include this anecdote at all.

So we have multiple examples of half truths and bias before we even get to the "FACTS".

Da FACTS!

1) Rumor of Voting System (Dominion) tampering. Author says Trump supporters are speculating "without evidence" that voting machines resulted in votes being switched up from Trump to Biden. Supports his argument BY PROVIDING AN EXAMPLE OF THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. No worries, this was a simple misunderstanding by an 'election worker' and the problem was rectified - AFTER TRUMP SUPPORTERS MADE SURE IT CAME TO LIGHT. Oh, he left out that last part. Author continues by pretending that the halt in counting the votes in Georgia in the middle of the night was due to a ''glitchy software update". Pretend not to see the incredulous looks from every softdev manager and coder. Election in 3 days? Update NOW! check. Software Glitch results in vote switching? Must have been a ghost in the machine. Code does not have a personality or a political affilation.

2) Biden won because of illegal ballots. I think the author is going to have to re-write his article in a few days. He cites some early court results from Michigan in which a private group and the Trump team lost to local magistrates. Incidentally at least one of these cases is still moving forward in search of a court not beholden to local Democrat pols. To be fair the author was probably unaware of new findings including 'more ballots received than mailed out' and the 99/1 mail in vote ratio of Biden to Trump from the 3am dump across several states.

3) Dead people votes for Biden. Well, duh. Dead people vote in every election. Author conflates absentee votes with mail in votes in order to lure the reader into thinking that this isn't a material issue. The "early" mail in ballots have an order of magnitude greater examples of dead people voting. I'm using the term "early" to indicate the mail in ballots that weren't printed up on election night. He is probably right in his thinking that dead people did not have a material effect on the outcome but it should be taken as one part of a greater scheme to secure an election result.

4) Republican observers unable to monitor ballots. Again the author demonstrates an intent to mislead the reader when he claims that 'trumps own lawyers' have admitted that this is not true. No, what they have 'admitted' is that republican observers were permitted into the ballot centers - not that they were allowed to observe. Author continues to cite a specific example in Detroit which I would consider "best case" and admits in his example that observers had to maintain at least 6 feet from the ballot counters. C'mon man, are you seriously telling me that you can decipher 9 point font from 6 feet away?

5) Extra Ballots suddenly 'found' for Biden. Author doesn't deny this happened but blames it on Republican Legislatures for not changing election law to make these ballots easier to count. Author fails to account for the 99/1 ratio of Biden/Trump votes in these ballots or that there were hundreds of thousands more ballots received than were mailed.
The Author does admit that this same thing has been documented to happen in Philadelphia on prior occasions but "on a much smaller scale". Interesting to note that a PA election Judge was convicted of this. Same type of Judge that is denying court motions right now.

6) Pollsters falsified their results to suppress GOP Vote. Author claims this can't be true because it didn't work. Seriously, that's his argument. To many GOP voters turned out so polls were accurate. See- it's the voters fault.


Don't bring that weak ass sauce around here.

stfu says

Claim 3) NYT spoke to "top" election officials in 49 of 50 states - NO FRAUD played a part in the outcome. Unable to verify - this is behind a paywall.

Claim 3) NYT spoke to Democrat Secretaries of States, a few RINO ones, and definitely the D-Monopoly of Corruption in Philadelphia, Alleghany, Wayne Counties. NYT did not speak to Republic GOP Chairs or Organizers in other counties in PA, where complaints were made about people who didn't vote in 20+ years being re-added to lists, people getting mail ballots they didn't request, people showing up to polls and being told they already voted and forced to vote "provisionally", or Trump not showing on print outs ballots to be scanned.

BoomAndBustCycle says

https://news.yahoo.com/the-2020-election-wasnt-stolen-here-are-all-the-facts-that-prove-it-184623754.html

I found this article, while a long read, pretty good at credibly debunking 99% of the fraud claims.

BoomAndBustCycle says

https://news.yahoo.com/the-2020-election-wasnt-stolen-here-are-all-the-facts-that-prove-it-184623754.html

I found this article, while a long read, pretty good at credibly debunking 99% of the fraud claims.

This post has to be a joke, or is the poster for real?

BoomAndBustCycle says

The 2020 election wasn’t stolen

True. They have yet to announce a winner.

Notice that Boom and Bust hasn’t returned to his own thread to defend his stupid article. Gas lighting only works on the uninformed and people with low self confidence. And there’s no way to logically or credibly defend that pile of horse shit.

I saw plenty of evidence in Pennsylvania hearings. It was actual hearings with actual evidence, and not opinions by MSM.

BoomAndBustCycle says

https://news.yahoo.com/the-2020-election-wasnt-stolen-here-are-all-the-facts-that-prove-it-184623754.html

I found this article, while a long read, pretty good at credibly debunking 99% of the fraud claims.

If comments are impossible or if they are censored, you are reading propaganda. The very first thing you need to do with an article is check to see if commenting is allowed, if it is not allowed, ignore the article.

This is entirely true without exception.

People need to realize that traditional forms of news are now dead. You have to go and research for yourself, question what’s being written, look at both sides, and make up your own mind. If you want to be brainwashed, then don’t take my advice.

Oh, and if something is being censored, it’s likely true and threatening.

Here are facts it was stolen

https://www.c-span.org/video/?478422-1/president-trump-tells-pennsylvania-gop-lawmakers-election-rigged-overturned

porkchopexpress says

Oh, and if something is being censored, it’s likely true and threatening.

I was just thinking that you can tell exactly which articles on the Wikipedia have been turned into propaganda by looking to see if they are locked.

If you can't edit it, that means they don't want your input. End of the Wikipedia project, really.

porkchopexpress says

Oh, and if something is being censored, it’s likely true and threatening.

This is exactly why the Wikipedia locks all their propaganda articles.

There should be a meta-Wikipedia which lets you browse unlocked articles, but then hosts user-editable versions of the locked pages.

BoomAndBustCycle says

found this article, while a long read, pretty good at credibly debunking 99% of the fraud claims.

So why haven't all the people claiming fraud been prosecuted as part of a conspiracy by the Trump campaign to undermine faith in the election process? Don't you think that's a story mainstream media would LOVE?

Look, either Biden stole votes, or Trump attempted to undermine, but to say nothing happened at all, now that's just asinine.

The post war period was very whacky in terms of the media mostly toeing the same line with little variation.

As the Greenwald article stated, which Patrick posted in another thread, NYT/NPR have about the same bias as Fox, just in the other direction.

On certain issues, the legacy media is lockstep, such as with managed decline Globaloney, where the US is weakened and dismantled in order to create an international Corporate State.

NuttBoxer says

Look, either Biden stole votes, or Trump attempted to undermine, but to say nothing happened at all, now that's just asinine.

That's just it. When all media outlets for the most part ignore the idea there was voter fraud and outright shoot it down, something ain't right. I don't care if Trump wins or loses even though I voted from him in deep blue IL. It's the fact that why would further investigation into mathematical anomalies not be worth it? It reeks of hiding something.

MSM's response is mail in voting. That's not valid, Republicans mail in voted too. It's 2020. Billions were put into this election. Is it that hard to have cameras hooked up to the internet so the public can watch any recount? Most are managing to work from home, but our public officials cannot even complete this simple task.

I've been in my neighboring counties command room that has 40 or so tv's, each divided into 4 cameras throughout the county for the DOT. We can have 160 weatherproof cameras to watch for accidents or snow levels, but can't get indoor cameras to allow us to watch a recount??? There are no names on the ballot..... There's no risk of anything. This is basic stuff.

Facts: Joe Biden underperformed Hillary, much less Obama, in every city in the USA.

Except: Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Atlanta, and Philadelphia.

Just the ones in the swing states, what a surprise. And by a lot too, not by 5, 10, 15%.

The Facts wont lie, Andrew Romano and Jon Ward, lies their Fucking asses off. It's all they do.

NoCoupForYou says

Facts: Joe Biden underperformed Hillary, much less Obama, in every city in the USA.

Except: Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Atlanta, and Philadelphia.

And not even that, but FOX news had the foresight, when Biden was down so far in those States, to not call them for Trump. As they knew the Fix would start coming in for Biden.

The only time the media never calls a State is when it's too close to call. They have always called it on the Tuesday night, when the contest was so lopsided.
The media was in on it and they knew it was predetermined Trump would not win.

And everyone gloating that Biden won, knows the fucking deal.

I was at my friends house on Wed, he had a friend over who hates Trump, didn't vote, but also doesn't believe it will be called for Trump irregardless what comes out.

It turns out he actually has a bet riding on it. He quit following it a week ago, because he so believed the MSM narrative.
I filled him in on a lot of truth bombs, and the legal cases working their way through courts.

He mulled it over, and he tells me...

"Trump will never win this, because it was already predetermined, the same people that made that decision will see to it, that he does not win. No matter what he proves in court!"

Those were his parting words, sounded more out of frustration, than fact. But it proves where the Left's head is at, their assumption about where this going, is not grounded in the constitution. They don't want a constitutional process, they have decided for us, Biden should be President.

Tenpoundbass says

And not even that, but FOX news had the foresight, when Biden was down so far in those States, to not call them for Trump. As they knew the Fix would start coming in for Biden.

Yup, The Whole Media was in on it. For weeks they 'warned' people that they'd go to sleep with one winner, and not to be surprised if the woke up to somebody else.

Tuned on for 5 minutes of "news" and was surprised at the level of shilling by the lsm. It's almost in shrieking overdrive, totally over the top assuming they should feel comfortable now with bi-den taking over in January. They keep shrieking no evidence whatsoever and don't even mention the affidavits and court cases. I've never seen anything like this except for former communist countries or nazi Germany, the lsm is completely gleichgeschaltet.