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Soooo.... When do we stop paying teachers??


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2020 Apr 1, 9:10am   7,120 views  71 comments

by WookieMan   ➕follow (1)   💰tip   ignore  

Not sure if any of you are dealing with this yet. This remote learning shit with the kids is absolute bullshit. Our district is so ill prepared for this. Given modern tech, I would have thought they had a plan. I mean we're right in the zone for tornados, blizzards and yes even earthquakes here in IL.

A school could easily be down for months (well not blizzard, days for that) with these disasters. They didn't have a plan? WTF? What are we paying them for? I'm pretty pissed as a tax payer right now. Sick of government workers getting bailed out every time everyone else takes a hit. WE don't have a choice in paying taxes. It's bullshit.

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51   Onvacation   2020 Apr 16, 7:27am  

WookieMan says
During harsh times everyone needs to make sacrifices.

Are you still getting paid? What sacrifices are you making for the Chinese virus?
52   WookieMan   2020 Apr 16, 7:38am  

Onvacation says
WookieMan says
During harsh times everyone needs to make sacrifices.

Are you still getting paid? What sacrifices are you making for the Chinese virus?

I do side jobs here and there, but I haven't had a full time job for 2 years now. Don't need it. My job is sitting my ass in a chair and bitching on Patnet. I'm fortunate enough to be able to pick and choose when and what I want to do. And I can still do it during this time, but generally not doing anything because of the school shit.

Not wanting to dox myself, but the wife is still getting paid and is essential. It's something that couldn't be sacrificed so to speak. Teaching isn't necessary right now with the Feds and states pulling testing mandates tied to funding. It keeps the kids busy, but for those that have to work, it's complete bullshit. Our household is fine, I'm Mr. Teacher right now. But I know others that are struggling bigly with this and it's all a waste of time for them and an emotional strain.
53   goofus   2020 Apr 16, 1:39pm  

Public schools are passing the buck, sure, while paying teachers full fare. But our private school here is even worse -- they expect parents to teach (full curriculum - while the teacher skates by with a 45 minute zoom) AND to pay full tuition. Any parents who squawk are told to adjust their "mindset." Damn it. We're doing Khan Academy and skipping tuition next month.
54   Shaman   2020 Apr 16, 2:16pm  

Deep_State says
It's sad to see so many Americans complaining about being forced to spend more time with their kids. Having to spend time with their children's education. It's no wonder why we are getting hammered by other countries when it comes to education.

Big league sad ☹️


Ten bucks says you have no kids.
Twenty bucks says you have no job you’re trying to do while trying to educate the kids you don’t have.
Shut yo bitch ass mouth, incel!
55   goofus   2020 Apr 16, 2:23pm  

Deep_State says
It's sad to see so many Americans complaining about being forced to spend more time with their kids. Having to spend time with their children's education. It's no wonder why we are getting hammered by other countries when it comes to education.

Big league sad ☹️


Sure, good luck with educating kids in different grades, with full curriculum, while paying a private school for the privilege of grading your work. While working from home. Save your tears, buddy. There are only so many hours in a day.
56   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 16, 2:39pm  

goofus says
Sure, good luck with educating kids in different grades, with full curriculum, while paying a private school for the privilege of grading your work. While working from home. Save your tears, buddy. There are only so many hours in a day.


Ummmm... Millions of families do this. It's called homeschooling. And yes, to protect their jobs many states require regular testing, where homeschooled kids of a HS Graduate kick the shit out of 20 kid classes taught by an $80k/year EduMaster's degree holder.

Hatred of kids is a leftist marker, but fortunately they take their own prejudices to heart and have few or none of them.
57   Ceffer   2020 Apr 16, 2:41pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Ummmm... Millions of families do this. It's called homeschooling.


From homo schooling to home schooling. How will they keep the propaganda fire hoses open on the tender young minds?
58   goofus   2020 Apr 16, 2:44pm  

NoCoupForYou says
goofus says
Sure, good luck with educating kids in different grades, with full curriculum, while paying a private school for the privilege of grading your work. While working from home. Save your tears, buddy. There are only so many hours in a day.


Ummmm... Millions of families do this. It's called homeschooling.


Find the two differences between standard homeschooling and what I wrote above...

I can assure you that no one is paying 15-20K per year to grade their homeschooling output, nor is the homeschooling parent expected to work while schooling.
59   Shaman   2020 Apr 16, 3:44pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Ummmm... Millions of families do this. It's called homeschooling.


As a rule, people who homeschool don’t have dual careers. Someone has to have homeschool teacher as their job.
And when both parents are still working full time jobs as we are, homeschooling three kids is next to fucking impossible. I love my kids, but they’re a handful and neither of us has the time to spare to fully support their homeschooling. Which is why we didn’t sign up to home school in the first place!

But yah, it’s fun and games for Leftists, alone with their toys and their cats. They probably have extra time these days while pretending to work from home.
60   cklaus76   2020 Apr 16, 4:35pm  

I'm in CTU. We just finished ratifying a five year contract with plenty of raises. I'm getting $15k net over the next 11 weeks and I just got $3,400 from uncle sam. Another 3 months of this and judges will be stamping abrogations to this as well as our pension's constitutional protection. Disaster capitalism playbook 101, we are Puerto Rico
61   WookieMan   2020 Apr 17, 10:20am  

Shaman says
As a rule, people who homeschool don’t have dual careers. Someone has to have homeschool teacher as their job.

We are about to get that in IL.... https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronavirus/2020/4/17/21225167/illinois-schools-closed-pritzker-year-coronavirus-cps-covid-19

Gonna be a bit difficult to start the economy back up when kids can't be in school. This is starting to look planned at this point. I'm sure day care centers won't be open and the governors will "try" to open the economy but can't because people have to watch kids keeping the unemployment high. CA, NY and IL have the ability to move the UE number national by 3-4% alone.
63   WookieMan   2020 Apr 22, 10:27pm  

zzyzzx says
Michigan begins 2,900 temporary layoffs amid COVID-19 pandemic

Oh it's coming. Had my committee meeting today. We're on solid financial ground as we're funded by property taxes and we're not a commercial/industry heavy village. So most property taxes are escrowed in my community unless you've paid off your mortgage. Next year will be rough as the reduction in most home sales and prices are likely to reduce property tax revenue.

Sales taxes need to go though. They're the devil in a time like this. You can't go a month or two without (well ~70% reduced) them and not expect to go BK as a village or city. Cities that collect transfer stamps (taxes) are also going to be hurting. I know many villages in IL collect sales tax and real estate transfer taxes. They are going to get wang whipped. The printing presses need to stay warmed up along with people willing to buy IL junk bonds.
65   Reality   2020 Apr 23, 5:11am  

Shaman says
As a rule, people who homeschool don’t have dual careers.


Is it possible that the lock-downs is a way to send wives back into the kitchen? Just like the Me-Too movement and the equal-pay-for-lower-productivity movement were ways to reduce women's employment rate?
66   Reality   2020 Apr 23, 5:14am  

goofus says
Public schools are passing the buck, sure, while paying teachers full fare. But our private school here is even worse -- they expect parents to teach (full curriculum - while the teacher skates by with a 45 minute zoom) AND to pay full tuition. Any parents who squawk are told to adjust their "mindset." Damn it. We're doing Khan Academy and skipping tuition next month.


Ever considered doing Khan Academy and skipping your property tax payment next month? After all, May 1st is one of the quarterly due dates.
67   Shaman   2020 Apr 23, 8:26am  

Reality says
Shaman says
As a rule, people who homeschool don’t have dual careers.


Is it possible that the lock-downs is a way to send wives back into the kitchen? Just like the Me-Too movement and the equal-pay-for-lower-productivity movement were ways to reduce women's employment rate?


No, the globalist plan has always been to increase the workforce and pay us all less. This is just a working class pain that the Clerisy couldn’t give a shit about because they are all working from home anyway.
68   Automan Empire   2020 Apr 23, 9:24am  

Better question is, when do we stop paying administrative bureaucrats who do fuck-all toward the function of educating kids? I'm talking about nepots and incompetents in plum 6 figure positions.
69   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Apr 23, 9:42am  

When do we stop paying taxes.

Our local politicians been spending it all I kid you not on hobos lately.

Garcetti calls them “Angelico’s experiencing homeless”. Those guys must be so experienced, should be called “principal hobos” with that much fucking experience
70   Bd6r   2020 Apr 23, 10:12am  

Automan Empire says
Better question is, when do we stop paying administrative bureaucrats who do fuck-all toward the function of educating kids? I'm talking about nepots and incompetents in plum 6 figure positions.

Unfortunately, we will likely be getting Associate Vice Provosts and Principals for the new Office of Pandemic response, and tuition/taxes will go up, as those will need to be paid 250K per useless head.
71   WookieMan   2020 Apr 23, 2:40pm  

Automan Empire says
Better question is, when do we stop paying administrative bureaucrats who do fuck-all toward the function of educating kids? I'm talking about nepots and incompetents in plum 6 figure positions.

I admittedly didn't phrase the OP title the best, but oh well. I still think teachers should be getting pay cuts at minimum or we should be getting property tax rebates for unopened facilities. Half the job pre-middle school is basically babysitting and we're now doing half their job.

Administrators are bags of ass fluid. My district super is a flaming piece of shit. This is not a joke, not a direct threat either, but I'd probably punch him in the face if given the opportunity. He's fucked up massively and broken laws over the last 18 months. District attorney has basically said it's not worth their time, they broke the law, but whatever. That's almost verbatim from a news article.

Deliberate open meetings act violations to push through a massive amount of money for a pet project for a homeowner where the super is paying them $1K in rent for a $1M house.... Media and state doesn't care. Guy is connected. This isn't conspiracy either, it's out in the open and everyone knows it.

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