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CA loves salt ponds more than housing.


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2019 Sep 24, 5:04pm   3,274 views  17 comments

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-24/california-s-clash-with-trump-goes-from-air-to-land-to-mud
"The latest [lawsuit] targets a U.S. Environmental Protection Agency decision to exclude almost 1,400 acres of ponds from protection under the federal Clean Water Act, opening them to commercial development."

"The EPA ruled the ponds aren’t “waters of the United States,” a decision California says was made at the behest of urban developers."
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Seriously?!?
An industrial wasteland (salt ponds) in the middle of one of the most expensive global metropolis is such an ecological wonder it needs to be regulated as "waters of the United States".
To prevent... what exactly? Building new housing!
Because we really, really hate new housing and we love, love salt ponds: think of all these bacteria in the brine. Where will they go if we build there.

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2   just_passing_through   2019 Sep 24, 10:34pm  

Don't you guys think the ocean is rising quickly?

It smells like shit down there and that was before all of the homeless peeps.
3   Patrick   2019 Sep 24, 10:42pm  

It is kind of funny how Facebook HQ is right by a sewage treatment plant and often reeks of it.
4   RWSGFY   2019 Sep 24, 11:01pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
we love, love salt ponds


Remove the levies an there will be no more salt ponds. Maybe even ducks will return to the area.
5   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 25, 1:06am  

Anything good that Trump does (deregulation) must be opposed by the anti-Trumpers. There is probably nowhere on earth as anti-Trump as silicon valley.

If Trump was in favor of oxygen there would be thousands dying in silicon valley due to asphyxiation... "Trump loves oxygen so I'm going to allow any of that in my lungs!" Hmm... maybe he should try it and see what happens.
6   RWSGFY   2019 Sep 25, 5:48am  

SunnyvaleCA says
There is probably nowhere on earth as anti-Trump as silicon valley.


If this were true he wouldn't come here to raise money.
7   komputodo   2019 Sep 25, 6:54am  

Iranian_Oil_Burse says
SunnyvaleCA says
There is probably nowhere on earth as anti-Trump as silicon valley.


If this were true he wouldn't come here to raise money.

ummmm....Smart rich people that need govt favors give money to all sides. Enemies or not.
8   rocketjoe79   2019 Sep 25, 7:24am  

This has got to be all about Who owns the Land and rights to making salt. Cargill probably looked at their balance sheet and said "Hey, we can sell this land off to a developer for huuuge $$$, someone else develops it and remediates the property. We wash our hands of the cleanup requirement. We can mine salt elsewhere." Can anyone follow the money?

Cargill is one of the largest private companies: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/121615/cargill-stock-doesnt-exist-heres-why.asp
Salt Ponds: https://www.cargill.com/page/sf/sf-bay-salt-ponds

Housing/Land prices are in somewhat of a bubble right now, smart people are selling again to reap profits.
9   B.A.C.A.H.   2019 Sep 25, 8:12am  

Baloney.

More housing will be more congestion. It's already too congested here.

Almost all of those "tech" jobs are performed on a PC or workstation.

With such horrible congestion, increasing numbers of "techies" do "work from home" one or more days a week.

That home PC or workstation could be somewhere here in the Bay Area (a two-hour commute from the Bay Area office) or somewhere else like Sacramento or Boise or Bangalore. I have a niece in the Philippines who has a degree in Computer Science making about $250 per month as a techie for American clients. It's only a matter of time and money before the techie broohaha winds down.
10   Y   2019 Sep 25, 8:36am  

The Morton lobby cannot be underestimated...
11   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 25, 10:24am  

Are there any actual plans to develop the area into housing? I think the local "save the bay" people will be fighting hard to return the salt areas back to "nature."
12   Heraclitusstudent   2019 Sep 25, 10:54am  

SunnyvaleCA says
I think the local "save the bay" people will be fighting hard to return the salt areas back to "nature."

Right. They like ducks more than people.
13   Heraclitusstudent   2019 Sep 25, 10:58am  

B.A.C.A.H. says
More housing will be more congestion. It's already too congested here.

Without housing people commute from farther away. It's even worse congestion.
If you don't want congestion, the solution is to refuse new companies until traffic improves.

B.A.C.A.H. says
That home PC or workstation could be somewhere here in the Bay Area (a two-hour commute from the Bay Area office) or somewhere else like Sacramento or Boise or Bangalore. I


Guess what: these companies could be in Sacramento or Boise or Bangalore too.
14   HeadSet   2019 Sep 25, 12:30pm  

Patrick says
It is kind of funny how Facebook HQ is right by a sewage treatment plant and often reeks of it.


Nice of that sewage plant tolerate the stench of Facebook.
15   RWSGFY   2019 Sep 25, 12:39pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
They like ducks more than people.


"The more I learn about people, the more I like dogs ...err ... ducks!" -- Mark Twain
16   B.A.C.A.H.   2019 Sep 25, 12:51pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
these companies could be in Sacramento or Boise or Bangalore too.


Exactly.
17   rocketjoe79   2019 Sep 25, 12:57pm  

BlueSardine says
The Morton lobby cannot be underestimated...


Cargill, not Morton.

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