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Protest against corporate censorship of public dialogue


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2017 Oct 1, 6:23pm   16,614 views  69 comments

by Patrick   ➕follow (55)   💰tip   ignore  

I'm quite disturbed that a few corporations can collude to silence ideas that they don't like -- even if those ideas are basically Nazi.

I've taken a copy of the censored dailystormer.com page "A Normie's Guide to the Alt-Right" from the Internet Archive and hosted it on my own site, here:

http://patrick.net/content/stormer.html

Style sheets don't quite work, but you can read the text. And that's the important thing. They tried to prevent you from having the ability to read it, but I'm saying that is wrong. You should have the ability to read it even if our corporate overlords say no. Especially if they say no. I encourage all other websites to also host parts or all of dailystormer.com as a protest.

I'm not a Nazi. Technically Jewish (long story). Just a believer that corporations should not be in actual fact dictating what we can and cannot read online.

#censorship

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49   anonymous   2017 Oct 11, 7:06pm  

Still curious to see Patrick's non-violence policy puts the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) into his special class of ideas which must be widely publicized and easily accessible.

The stigma they suffer makes them sound perfect: NAMBLA states that it is a political, civil rights, and education association whose goal is to "end the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships".

This extreme oppression limits their communication of ideas to:
a quarterly publication,
"Gayme" magazine
"Ariel's pages, a literature project through which stories of man-boy love were sold" and
A prisoners newsletter for convicted pedophiles.

This sounds like awfully inefficient spreading of ideas especially considering that a groomed boy is only considered attractive for a few years. Wouldn't it be better if they could freely discuss molestation techniques as fast as we discuss topics at Patnet?

My understanding is that the pedos believe that the children's right to man-boy love is severely oppressed and that if they could just "get their message out" we would all see the merits of their ideas and give our sons to them for sleepovers, special massages, and anal intercourse.

So how about it Patrick? They are oppressed, and they are nonviolent? Therefore shouldn't you be combatting their censorship just like you are daily stormer?
50   bob2356   2017 Oct 11, 8:51pm  

anonymous says
Ok - so what about NAMBLA and the Pedophile community? The "grooming" process is very nonviolent as 4-5 year old boys are selected for first exposure to an erect penis. Do you cover it in whipped cream for licking? Is there a name to call it or "special game" to play with the erection which works best for preschoolers?


Isn't the republican party and the NAMBLA the same organization?

anonymous says

So how about it Patrick? They are oppressed, and they are nonviolent? Therefore shouldn't you be combatting their censorship just like you are daily stormer?


What about necrophiliacs? Why are they suppressed also? Let's start a patnet for necrophiliacs movement.
51   Patrick   2017 Oct 11, 9:45pm  

joeyjojojunior says
Patrick says
What you do on your own time should not be used against you at work. But when you are at work, you should just work like you are being paid to.

But none of that has anything to do with the censorship of minority views which corporations are imposing lately.


So you're 100% behind Google for firing the engineer that wrote the internal memo then, right?


He was writing about his own working conditions, not some irrelevant agenda from outside. Nor was he showing any disrespect to the country or abusing his employer's resources.
52   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 12, 5:51am  

Patrick says
He was writing about his own working conditions, not some irrelevant agenda from outside. Nor was he showing any disrespect to the country or abusing his employer's resources


OK, so now the criteria is you can't show disrespect to the country? Really? Isn't that one of the basic tenets of free speech? I know we're going down the path towards totalitarianism, but I didn't realize we were there. And that you were happily marching down the path.

As to abusing company resources, he clearly was. Google employees are one of their biggest resources and that memo clearly harmed a decent percentage of them.

Patrick--either you think businesses can fire employees for conduct that they deem harms their image or they can't. You're trying to have it both ways based on your own value system which doesn't work. All you do is become a special snowflake.
53   anonymous   2017 Oct 12, 7:08am  

"Patrick either you think businesses can fire employees for conduct that they deem harms their image or they can't. You're trying to have it both ways based on your own value system which doesn't work. All you do is become a special snowflake."

I personally have no problem with his hypocrisy so long as he is self-aware. When people like him come in with these BS high minded "principles" based in a world of black and white that's the only time he deserves to be called out on it.
54   Patrick   2017 Oct 12, 8:11am  

anonymous says
"Patrick either you think businesses can fire employees for conduct that they deem harms their image or they can't. You're trying to have it both ways


Not at all. I'm saying that corporations should not have the ability to fire or discriminate based on political activity while not at work. There is already a California law to that effect, but not enforced.

Google may have the the right to fire Damore, but you're ignoring the fact that his memo was about his own working conditions, not an attempt to abuse his position to publicly promote a certain unrelated agenda. That's quite a bit different from NFL players essentially stealing highly valuable media time to promote an agenda that has nothing to do with their own working conditions. Is Kaepernick forced to sit in the back of the bus?
55   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 12, 8:23am  

rando says
but you're ignoring the fact that his memo was about his own working conditions, not an attempt to abuse his position to publicly promote a certain unrelated agenda.


I think you need to read the memo again. Implying it is about working conditions is misleading at best. It is absolutely an attempt to promote an agenda.
56   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 12, 8:24am  

rando says
Is Kaepernick forced to sit in the back of the bus?


So as long as he can sit in the front of the bus, he should just shut up and do his job?
57   Patrick   2017 Oct 12, 8:26am  

At work, yes, unless he has some compliant about his job.
58   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 12, 8:51am  

Patrick says
At work, yes, unless he has some compliant about his job.


Was the Google guy complaining about his job?

He was really complaining about corporate culture and how the execs manage the business. That has always been and always will be a very touchy subject that can get you fired.
59   mell   2017 Oct 12, 8:51am  

joeyjojojunior says
Patrick says
What you do on your own time should not be used against you at work. But when you are at work, you should just work like you are being paid to.

But none of that has anything to do with the censorship of minority views which corporations are imposing lately.


So you're 100% behind Google for firing the engineer that wrote the internal memo then, right?


Although those two situations are quite different as explained by Patrick I would be ok with it if the protection would apply to both. It would be huge if we would have a law to protect against political correctness and SJWs at the workplace (or ideally no HR/discrimination laws in the first place). If it also protects Kaepernicks kneeling so be it!
60   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 12, 8:55am  

mell says
Although those two situations are quite different as explained by Patrick I would be ok with it if the protection would apply to both. It would be huge if we would have a law to protect against political correctness and SJWs at the workplace (or ideally no HR/discrimination laws in the first place).


Every situation is different. But it's clear by how much twisting Patrick has had to do that he doesn't really have a valid reason for his views. He doesn't like Kaepernick or has been brainwashed by the Trump cult.
61   anonymous   2017 Oct 12, 9:11am  

That's quite a bit different from NFL players essentially stealing highly valuable media time to promote an agenda that has nothing to do with their own working conditions

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This doesn’t make any sense
62   anonymous   2017 Oct 12, 9:12am  

At work, yes, unless he has some compliant about his job.

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If his employer doesn’t care, then why should you?

Is this how you MAGA?
63   somecrappynumber   2017 Oct 12, 12:17pm  

Patrick says
At work, yes, unless he has some compliant about his job.


Let me see if I understand this. So if he punches out at 5:00 then on his own time he can criticize his employer (the memo was called the Ideological echo chamber) send it to everyone within the company (knowing full well it will go viral) and then come back to work with no repercussions? Really?

If your answer is "Yes that's correct", my follow up is, can he do or say anything about his employer on his own time without consequence? Can he say "my boss, John Smith is a Fuckwad", send it to the rest of the company, then next day at work nothing happens?
64   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Oct 12, 5:14pm  

Patrick says

What you do on your own time should not be used against you at work. But when you are at work, you should just work like you are being paid to.

But none of that has anything to do with the censorship of minority views which corporations are imposing lately.


I feel this way about school teachers also. If they are keeping any 'odd' behavior, like attendance at gay spahouses or whatever, low key, sure.

Now if they appear in video ads on Youtube and on a Billboard for the Gay Spa house, that might be something else. Or wear a thong bikini and serve hot dogs at the beach in the same county in the summer, that might not be good. But if they fly to Florida and do it as a Summer Job, fine.

I'm appalled somebody can be fired for being a swinger or something. You teach Earth Science but can't go to the Trapeze? Not cool.
65   Y   2017 Oct 17, 4:25pm  

No.
NAMBLA is Dan's HOA tax id name.

bob2356 says
Isn't the republican party and the NAMBLA the same organization?

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