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North Korea ain't the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact it's cold as hell
And there's no one there to raise them if you did
And all this science I don't understand
It's just my job five days a week
A rocket man, a rocket man

And I think it's gonna be a long long time
'Till touch down brings me round again to find
I'm not the man they think I am at home
Oh no no no I'm a rocket man
Rocket man burning out his fuse up here alone

Five time Draft Dodging Coward!

Maybe a lot of Republicans' sons will be maimed & killed in the Warmongers next war &
Iraq has WMD!

Dan8267 says

Trump is posturing for war.

I'd agree and will go out on a limb that there will be some sort of conflict in the next 6 months. I don't know that it will be an all out conflict/war, but I do think we will hit N. Korea with some kind of attack or intercept one of their test missiles. I'm just not seeing a non-conflict resolution here.

Trump has to win something, so he may bend on other issues with the Chinese (and maybe Russians but that would be a bad look) to increase the sanctions even more. Trump and the Repubs to date haven't seemed to want to play together nicely. So not sure where else he can win on something outside of maybe taxes which to his base probably isn't that big of a win. That's more the establishments realm.

At some point Kim's own people are going to flip if the sanctions get to a point where the enforcers of the brainwashing can't even eat a meal. You lose them and things can get flipped pretty quickly. Kim is likely very aware of military coup if the sanctions get bad enough and at that point he probably becomes suicidal and just lights up the south.

Outside of Kim stepping down and allowing UN inspections, I don't see what other outcomes are possible. Hope I'm wrong.

Trump is posturing for war

Of course. He's just playing to his base as he shirks his duties as President to campaign for 2020 instead.

It's funny as hell to watch the "Independents" go from NO MOAR WAR and Debt is Bad when there's a Dem as president, to Debt is WINNING and WE MUST HAVE WAR once Republicans have ABSOLUTE control of the Government

Oh yea I forgot, but Muh Media lmao

YesYNot says

North Korea ain't the kind of place to raise your kids

I just hope that Trump doesn't start singing like Shatner.
www.youtube.com/embed/5hARDXYz2io

I like how the camera turned to Milania Trump when Trump spoke about empowering Women

Dan8267 says

I just hope that Trump doesn't start singing like Shatner.

lol - I had not seen that.

Tenpoundbass says

One more facelift and she's going to have a goatee.

Now if only he had brains to go with them.

One point Trump made at the U.N. yesterday is 100 percent correct, and gives both the US and Britain the moral authority to lecture that distinguished body in exactly the manner he did.

At the end of World War 2, with both Germany and Japan in full surrender and not merely under cease-fire agreements, the Allies did something unparalleled in history. They voluntarily gave those countries back to the indigenous people, without pursuing an entirely justified take-over.

Trump was quite right in calling attention to the actions of a righteous victory. I know many on the modern left cringe at any phrasing that sounds of moral justification on the part of the nations they love to detest, the US and Britain, but I assure you my lifelong Democrat father born in 1915, would offer a hearty “here here” to such language.

I was getting very sick and ashamed of Obama’s apologetic approach to difficult foreign policy maneuvering.

This was one of my favorite lines of Trump's speech. Someone needs to tell Bernie and the Democrats.
www.youtube.com/embed/GFRq2ONUCug

"We call for the full restoration of democracy and political freedoms in Venezuela. The problem in Venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented, but that socialism has been faithfully implemented.

From the Soviet Union to Cuba to Venezuela, wherever true socialism or communism has been adopted, it has delivered anguish and devastation and failure. Those who preach the tenets of these discredited ideologies only contribute to the continued suffering of the people who live under these cruel systems."

anonymous says

deepcgi - Since that grand time post World War II we have squandered our right to lecture anyone on anything concerning moral authority with our performances in Vietnam, the Middle East and so much more let alone civil and human rights in this country.

Ultimately no one has a right to lecture anyone on anything. We could literally take over the world if there was a political will to do it and our people and government could actually authorize this. While our track record isn't the greatest during the time period you mention, we could have been MASSIVELY worse to the world.

Feeling sorry for past mistakes can't cloud your judgement on future problems. War should never be the first solution. I actually think outside of N. Korea, most Americans are sick and tired of the wars and conflicts. But that doesn't mean you don't act just because of some mistakes in the past.

Actually us Trump uspporters have already renamed North Korea as the Mattis Straights.

anonymous says

deepcgi - Since that grand time post World War II we have squandered our right to lecture anyone on anything concerning moral authority with our performances in Vietnam, the Middle East and so much more let alone civil and human rights in this country.

Does this mean the Communists we fought in Vietnam and the Islamists we have fought in the Middle East have the moral authority?

Was America in the wrong to protect millions and millions of human beings in South Korea to become an economic powerhouse and free from the Stalinist hell to their north?

deepcgi says

At the end of World War 2, with both Germany and Japan in full surrender and not merely under cease-fire agreements, the Allies did something unparalleled in history. They voluntarily gave those countries back to the indigenous people, without pursuing an entirely justified take-over.

Here's an Army Video,from 1945 warning GIs not to Fraternize with the Sneaky Krauts. This was before the Marshall Plan, when the Morgenthau Plan still dominated policy thinking.

www.youtube.com/embed/dvcf9DKSpPw

Seriously, check it out. "You're up against German History. A whole culture, not one man. Not one Fuhrer. Let's start with one Fuhrer, Bismarck..."

Morgenthau wanted Germany reduced to an agrarian paradise of potatoes, cabbage, and beer with barely any manufacturing; just enough to repair shovels and horse tackle.

History shows that Morgenthau was right. Merkel will destroy Europe; the German dream of Eastern Colonies is fulfilled by their buy up and shut down of Eastern European Industry, their increasing siezure of farmland, esp. in Hungary, and of course their importation of Muslims, a religion Hitler wished the Germans followed.

Let's recreate Hannover, Rheinland-Pfalz, Bavaria, Papenburg, and all the other cute little statelets. The whole Germany thing is just too much.

socal2 says

Does this mean the Communists we fought in Vietnam and the Islamists we have fought in the Middle East have the moral authority?

There was no moral authority in either case.

Vietnam was a post colonial civil war. We had no reason to be there. If the US had continued to support our WWII ally Ho Chi Min instead of caving into the colonialist French after the defeat of Japan there would have been no war of any kind in Vietnam. Read The OSS and Ho Chi Minh Unexpected Allies in the War against Japan by Dixee Bartholomew-Feis. to see some pretty shocking details of a very shameful chapter of American history. We also should have supported the Chinese communists in WWII instead of being raped for billions of dollars by the totally corrupt, lying, and deceitful former gang banger Chiang Kai-shek. There were chinese troops that actually starved to death while Chiang and cronies sold food and supplies we provided. The Japanese in China would have been defeated much quicker if we supported the communists.

Iraq was a secular nation until we created the islamists with what was probably the most poorly planned invasion in the history of warfare. Ok we are here in Baghdad, now what?

bob2356 says

We also should have supported the Chinese communists in WWII instead of being raped for billions of dollars by the totally corrupt, lying, and deceitful former gang banger Chiang Kai-shek.

Well - we did support the Communists in the USSR against the Nazis. That didn't work out too well for Eastern Europe when it was all said and done. The Communists in the USSR and Russia killed far more people around the world than the Nazis. And the legacy of Communism/Marxism/Stalinism/Maoism is hurting and impoverishing people this very day. North Korea and Venezuela being obvious examples.

bob2356 says

Iraq was a secular nation until we created the islamists

We "created" Islamists? Did we hatch them out of eggs or incubators or something? There was no "Islamist" movement until 2003? I seem to remember Islamist attacks all over Africa targeting our embassies, Islamists taking hostages in the Philippines, Islamists killing tourists in Egypt and of course the Islamist attacks on the WTC in 1993 and 2011.

Speaking of Islamists - here is some good news.

*GAME OVER' FOR ISIS IN RAQQA AS U.S.-BACKED FORCES NEAR LIBERATION OF CALIPHATE CAPITAL*
http://www.newsweek.com/game-over-isis-raqqa-us-backed-forces-near-liberation-caliphate-capital-667995
Is the US morally wrong to help moderate Syrians and Kurds to destroy ISIS' caliphate? What is Russia, Iran and Assad doing about ISIS in Syria other than gassing civilians and targeting moderate rebels?

When I think of an example of modern hubris, I think of Chinese slave labor trapped in factories contrasted by Chinese wealth fleeing its motherland. Both political parties blissfully Keynesian but desperate to keep the newly printed money out of the hands of main street and up with the one percent where it belongs.

Trump is right that both inside and open trade deals have favored China at the American worker’s, and Chinese slave’s, expense, but he’s wrong by being a Keynesian. Both parties are wrong on economics.

The trouble doesn’t only stem from fiat currency and economic complexity run amuck. It also stems from our blindness to the New Earth. Google is a surveillance state. Amazon is a surveillance state. Guess the others. Private satellite networks entangled with NSA satellite networks. Where do any of THOSE super powers show up on a map of the globe? Which desks were they sitting at during the speech? Only behind the US desk? Are you sure?

The fiat currency number is up. The market thinks it can self-correct because the shorts feed on the longs even in the event of a crash. But the crash isn’t what you fear. Its decades and decades of stagnant growth. The maintenance cost of aging disrupting the dreams of youth. The market doesn’t have to crash to ruin your day. It just has to go nowhere slowly.

Both parties are wrong on economics. Complexity will be the market’s undoing. Trump’s right on calling out the A-holes-Few, and on the importance of sovereignty, but he’s wrong that we can afford a war - trade or otherwise.

socal2 says

Well - we did support the Communists in the USSR against the Nazis. That didn't work out too well for Eastern Europe when it was all said and done. The Communists in the USSR and Russia killed far more people around the world than the Nazis. And the legacy of Communism/Marxism/Stalinism/Maoism is hurting and impoverishing people this very day. North Korea and Venezuela being obvious examples.

Are you sure the communists in the USSR killed more people than the Nazis? Stalin killed between 2-3 million people pre WWII. I missed all the people Russia killed around the world after WWII. Want to refresh my memory? Over 20 million Russians died in WWII fighting against the Nazi's. More than 3 million Russian prisoners died. The Nazi's killed almost a 1 million civilian "partisans". Over 1 million Russians died in the siege of Leningrad. The Nazi's killed 5.4 million Jews. There were 12 million people from eastern Europe used as Nazi slave labor.

Go read up on Generalplan Ost the german master plan for eastern Europe. The plan entailed the enslavement, expulsion, and mass murder of most Slavic peoples in Europe along with planned destruction of their nations, whom the 'Aryan' Nazis viewed as racially inferior. The programme operational guidelines were based on the policy of Lebensraum (living space, aka colonialism) designed by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party in fulfilment of the Drang nach Osten (drive to the East) ideology of German expansionism. It was only just getting started. If Russia hadn't managed to hold on it would have been fully implemented.

Remind me of how much better off eastern europe was under Hitler if the Russians hadn't driven him out? We should have done more to stand up to Stalin, but short of actually dropping an atomic bomb (which we didn't have anyway) on Moscow we totally lacked the resources or will to drive Russia out of eastern Europe.

socal2 says

bob2356 says

Iraq was a secular nation until we created the islamists

We "created" Islamists? Did we hatch them out of eggs or incubators or something? There was no "Islamist" movement until 2003? I seem to remember Islamist attacks all over Africa targeting our embassies, Islamists taking hostages in the Philippines, Islamists killing tourists in Egypt and of course the Islamist attacks on the WTC in 1993 and 2011.

Where are all the Iraq Islamist group attacks pre invasion in your list? The embassy bombings in 1998 was Osama Bin Laden (saudi). Wtc 1993 was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (saudi), 2001 WTC was Osama Bin Laden (saudi). the Philippine hostages were the Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Movement led by Ameril Umbra Kato who founded the group after graduating from Imam Muhammad bin Saud Islamic University in Riyadh (saudi), the Luxor massacre was by El Gama'a El Islamiyya which is heavily funded by Al-Qaeda (Osama bin Laden, saudi).

Starting to see a pattern (hint look for the word saudi) here yet?

socal2 says

Is the US morally wrong to help moderate Syrians and Kurds to destroy ISIS' caliphate? What is Russia, Iran and Assad doing about ISIS in Syria other than gassing civilians and targeting moderate rebels?

Huh? Russia has been bombing the shit out of ISIS. In 2016 they were running 60 sorties a day vs 7 for the US. They are also bombing any other group opposing Assad so it's a mixed bag.

Iran has been fighting and supporting fighters against ISIS since the beginning (when Al-Qaeda set up in Iraq initially after the invasion left half a million sunnis with guns and no jobs, duh what could go wrong? the magic word here is once again saudi). ISIS is a sunni fundamentalist group and represents a pretty big threat to shia Iran if they are successful.