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socal2 says

There is more evidence that Trump is a Manchurian candidate unleashing COVID lockdowns on us, speeding up sketchy vaccines, normalizing trannies with Bruce Jenner, emptying our prisons and basically making the Republican brand toxic allowing Biden and the Democrats to do massive damage to the country unchecked.

And these are actions, not some speculations of what somebody might plan. Solid, cold facts.

socal2 says

Do you realize how batshit insane and retarded this rhetoric is?

The reaction phase of denial is to lash out in order to bargain a return to the full state of denial.

Reactions defending the state of denial are at least a form of progress in the right direction.

The shallow end of the pool is cold comfort in the long run.

Eric Holder says

His actions don't support this accusation.

Even back in Congress, DeSantis was to the right of the "Young Guns" Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor and McCarthy.

Apparently the Steve Bannon's and Roger Stone's of the world have convinced a good chunk of people that DeSantis has been living a lie for nearly 20 years to get this opportunity to win the presidency and govern like a Democrat.

It's all part of the sEcREt SatAnIST Joo cult!

Like I keep saying, we are the retarded party who are letting our emotions get the best of us and are going to get fucking wiped out in 2024.

socal2 says

Like I keep saying, we are the retarded party who are letting our emotions get the best of us and are going to get fucking wiped out in 2024.

That just means continuation of Birdbrain Biden policies such as war on oil and gas and there is no stopping it. Just like there won't be any stopping of a Woke or Democrat jury acquitting Hunter Biden.

Maybe there won't be as much money funneled to Ukraine.

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Even the Mockingbird faked polls show Trump mopping up everybody on the map. So, where exactly is this Trump disaster agitprop coming from?

Bush and Cheney Nazis floated the 9/11 false flag BIS IPO for the world investors to promote an invasion of the Middle East and destroy our rights. Bush Sr. was swanning about poppy fields in Afghanistan with Bill Clinton, the new plantation owners in town. Bush supports DeSantis. That isn't a difficult math to add up. Or maybe it is if you are using political common core from tainted sources.

Ceffer says

The reaction phase of denial is to lash out in order to bargain a return to the full state of denial.

Ha ha!

YOU are talking about denial?

How many more losing elections do we have to deny? How many more of Trump's Leftist policies and statements do we have to deny?

Here is Trump denying last week that he gave Fauci the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Up is down, black is white. That is some world class denial right there!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jals_2tyGI

At the same time, we are told we have to deny all the major DeSantis Conservative policy, cultural and electoral wins over the last 10+ years.

Make it make sense!

Ceffer says

Even the Mockingbird faked polls show Trump mopping up everybody on the map.

Problem is that Trump won't be running against Biden or Kamala.

Polls are meaningless at this stage, otherwise Rudy Guiliani would have been our nominee in 2008.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/26803/giuliani-solidifies-lead-republican-nomination-poll.aspx

socal2 says

Make it make sense!

Stop being spun and take off the blindfold if you will. However, you can believe anything you want. However, propaganda beguilement isn't selling so well these days.

socal2 says

Ceffer says

The reaction phase of denial is to lash out in order to bargain a return to the full state of denial.

Ha ha!

YOU are talking about denial?

How many more losing elections do we have to deny? How many more of Trump's Leftist policies and statements do we have to deny?

Here is Trump denying last week that he gave Fauci the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Up is down, black is white. That is some world class denial right there!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jals_2tyGI

At the same time, we are told we have to deny all the major DeSantis Conservative policy, cultural and electoral wins over the last 10+ years.

Make it make sense!

IT'S BEING DONE TO LULL THE TRAITORS AND SOROSITE PEDOS INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY WHILE WHITE HAT MILITARY POSITIONS TANKS FOR THE DECISIVE STRIKE FOLLOWED BY MASS ARRESTS, SUMMARY EXECUTIONS AND REVELATION OF THE TRUE 2020 ELECTION RESULTS AS RECORDED ON THAT SERVER SEIZED DURING THAT RAID ON ITALIAN AIRBASE!!!!

LOL! Something is whipping up the frothing dervish frenzies. I guess the propaganda is working. Or, ironically, it's starting to collapse into inversion of the inversion lies inadvertently.

Froth on!

ad says

Maybe there won't be as much money funneled to Ukraine.

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I find this fixation bizzarre at best. First of all, the sums we're talking about is paltry (less than 3% of our military spending). Secondly, most of it has already been spent right here, in the US of A and some thing have literally negative value (as these cluster shells, for example, which can't be used by the US military and nearing their shelf life end) and only assigned some "replacemen cost" for accounting reasons. Not to
mention even at face value it's still way below the amount of Soviet money and assets seized in the West. If this is your single issue you have weird priorities.

"OMG, we're going bankrupt over $100B on paper and thus can't afford to keep our international obligations! " Fucking California fucking lost $30B of real money to the EDD scam and haven't even sneezed.

It's like fretting over change lost between sofa cushions.

I'm going to be "not smart" and vote for Trump.

> let the Democrats and the Media to radicalize us and play us like a drum to support Trump

This smells suspicious to me. If you were one of "us", you would know damn well that:

1. We are NOT radicalized.
2. The Dems and the media did not trick us into supporting Trump.
and most importantly
3. Doesn't matter. Still voting Trump.

apex says

> let the Democrats and the Media to radicalize us and play us like a drum to support Trump

This smells suspicious to me. If you were one of "us", you would know damn well that:

1. We are NOT radicalized.
2. The Dems and the media did not trick us into supporting Trump.
and most importantly
3. Doesn't matter. Still voting Trump.

1. People believing that DeSantis is some sort of secret Manchurian JEB! despite decades of DeSantis' solid record, have been radicalized.
2. The Dems and Media gave Trump billions in free advertising in 2016 and are doing it again to keep Trump at the top of the primary pile thinking he will be the easiest to beat. Yes, it backfired on them in 2016, but we have had 3 additional election cycles 2018, 2020 and 2022 (in addition to some special elections) where MAGA candidates are getting clobbered. Don't think Trump can catch lightning in a bottle twice. He won't have an old hag like Hillary to run against who didn't even bother to campaign in Wisconsin.
3. I know - radicals are immune to logic and reason. Trump can lie straight to your face claiming he did not give Fauci a the Presidential Medal of Freedom (despite video evidence) and get one of his presidencies' biggest challenges (COVID) wrong, but his radical followers don't care.

socal2 says

but we have had 3 additional election cycles 2018, 2020 and 2022 (in addition to some special elections) where MAGA candidates are getting clobbered.

Trump is the all time 2nd highest popular vote winner in US History, the incumbent (2020) President increased his vote total by 11M (!!!) while winning almost every one of the almost 20 bellweather counties yet "somehow" still lost.

The same GOP that went balls to the wall over some hanging chads in 2000 rolled over and deliberately died as Trump was a threat to handing out borrow-and-spend largess to their cronies, while fundraising millions off of it from their betrayed base. Guiliani was hung up by National GOP leadership in the days after the Stolen Election with claims that it was good for fundraising for Trump to lose.

2018 was a typical off-year recapture by the opposition party fired by Media Frenzy against Orange Man. Ryan was deliberately slow walking everything so as not to give Trump any serious Policy victories and tamper down the MAGAized base turnout to help Democrats.

2022 was an off year election and Bideninflation finally swung control back to the under-Magaized Republican Congress, but it was far less of a swing than predicted.

Trump must win to demoralize and weaken the Establishment GOP. The GOP is a bigger enemy than the Democrats, as it's had the Purse power almost 3 decades with only a few breaks, and most of the State Governments, yet here we are with Transwoke and $33T in debt.

Desantis is:

* Just as hated as Trump by the Media and Democrats.

* Does not have a history of winning the 2nd most popular vote of any President in US History despite massive Media demonization and multiple GOPe attempts to sabotage him.

* Still Young and has plenty of time.

Trump beats Biden by half a point in average of National Polls:



Desantis loses to Biden by almost 3 points in average of National Polls:

NH, a beautiful state, is full of never trumpers. Not surprised, but this is of no consequence.

mell says

NH, a beautiful state, is full of never trumpers. Not surprised, but this is of no consequence.

Yuge Masshole population over the past two decades, also.

RWSGFY says

If this is your single issue you have weird priorities.

Of course this is not as serious as the other disasters of Birdbrain Biden and the Democrat Party such as its Inflation Act and energy policy.

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mell says

NH, a beautiful state, is full of never trumpers. Not surprised, but this is of no consequence.

My sister and husband live in NH - it's not a state filled with "never trumpers"...

I know the Massaholes are just down south, but that's limited to the shitty of Boston.

But a lof of Massholes live in NH and commute down to Mass for their jobs.

socal2 says

Are you kidding?

No. The warmongers own DeSantis.

The warmongers hate Trump.

That’s pretty much why they must destroy Trump, he is not a warmonger. He will never be a warmonger, and they know they have no leverage to force him into war.

Did you go to the caucuses and/BPOU meetings in 2015 and 2016? The venom and hatred by the never trumpers and political elites against the grass roots new republican who showed up to support Trump was unprecedented and quite frankly unwarranted. The Republican leaders don’t want a big tent. They want to continue to status quo and expect the grass roots to grin and bear it while they sell us out again and again.

So fuck them, if losing means those assholes lose, then it is a victory for the grass roots who are tired of being sold out by RINOS like Romney, Mcain, Bush and Lindsey Graham. Fuck them all. If they can’t work with Trump, it’s because they hate him. If they hate him he must be doing something right.

apex says

> let the Democrats and the Media to radicalize us and play us like a drum to support Trump

This smells suspicious to me. If you were one of "us", you would know damn well that:

1. We are NOT radicalized.
2. The Dems and the media did not trick us into supporting Trump.
and most importantly
3. Doesn't matter. Still voting Trump.

mell says

NH, a beautiful state, is full of never trumpers. Not surprised, but this is of no consequence.

Trump won this district twice handedly and Sununu won it by 22 points.

Yet a very Trumpish candidate just got walloped in 2023. We lost in 2018, 2020 and underperformed in 2022.

So much winning!

I guess we can take comfort in worthless national polls?

First of all there are no Trumpish candidates. There is only one Trump. He’s far from perfect, but thankfully they broke the mold so we will never have to worry about “another Trump”.

Second there is no comfort for anyone who doesn’t understand that if Trump can’t win, it’s because the globalist warmongers have stacked the deck, weaponized the justice system and pulled out all the stops to guarantee a globalist puppet is elected.

I’m still waiting to hear about the candidate (other than the front runner) who won’t start or perpetuate any wars who you think can win the electoral college, let alone the primary.

ad says

RWSGFY says

If this is your single issue you have weird priorities.

Of course this is not as serious as the other disasters of Birdbrain Biden and the Democrat Party such as its Inflation Act and energy policy.

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And yet this is what popped up first. Are you suffering from UDS? :D

PeopleUnited says

That’s pretty much why they must destroy Trump, he is not a warmonger. He will never be a warmonger, and they know they have no leverage to force him into war.

This is right.

The problem they had with Trump is he wasn't a Neocon warmonger, and he wasn't purely a puppet. War is destroying this country. Our FUCKING federal government could only dole out $700 per family in Maui. Fuck them. Billions to Ukraine - EVEN IF UKRAINE wins, who does this help the United States??

They just want endless stupid war, senseless war.

richwicks says

They just want endless stupid war, senseless war.

They want total subservience to the supreme leader of the globalist regime, but war is an essential part of subservience. War, death, and lies are the currency of the satanic globalists.

PeopleUnited says

They want total subservience to the supreme leader of the globalist regime, but war is an essential part of subservience. War, death, and lies are the currency of the satanic globalists.

Sunlight is the best detergent...

That's what the Internet is for. Why do you think they are attacking free speech? Why do you think there is censorship? It's taken so much longer than I EVER would have imagined, but we are getting there. Censorship is a sign of weakness and the Internet really cannot be censored. There's always going to be somebody who just says "fuck it".

We need open dialogue or we end up all as slaves. There's a mistaken belief that people in power aren't slaves, they are the most slavish of us all.

Stop watching FOX News

just_passing_through says

Stop watching FOX News

Stop watching television period. If you think reading the NY Times or the Economist is informing you, you're still naive.

Seriously, go to the library and go through the newspaper and magazine morgue, and see what they were saying about Iraq in 2004, Libya in 2012, Syria in 2016. It's all nonsense propaganda.

just_passing_through says

Stop watching FOX News

Exactly. In other words quit willingly subjecting yourself to Maoist propaganda. If it is on network TV, it is Maoist propaganda. The networks are run by globalists after all, every single network is a globalists poison stream right to your unsuspecting cerebral cortex.

richwicks says

I know the Massaholes are just down south, but that's limited to the shitty of Boston.

clambo says

But a lof of Massholes live in NH and commute down to Mass for their jobs.

Exactly. The People's Republic became so unaffordable, there were big waves before the Great Recession. Since then it's only gotten worse. People in NH have been complaining about it since the 90s.

NH beat Florida slightly for Massholes leaving the state. About 20,000 for each destination with NH slightly more than Florida, bringing their overwhelming Democratic Leftoid Hillary Loving asses with them.

Also, Massholes are all over the state, except perhaps the far Western corners. MA was bluer much harder and much longer than California or NYS.

Even NYS has had one of it's legislative bodies Republican controlled in this century for some years. And don't believe upstaters that NYC is the only drag on NYS; the rustbelt/university cities are just as key to Democratic Control in NYS: Rochester, Binghampton, Buffalo, Ithaca, Syracuse, Albany, Poughkepsie, Plattsburgh, etc. are all dark blue power centers. It's the NYC burbs that provide much of the counter-socialist forces.

One Democratic strategist who asked for anonymity to speak candidly said that anyone who doesn’t think Trump can win in 2024 is “an absolute fool.”

The strategist cited inflation, concern about Biden’s age and immigration, emphasizing “the crisis that you are seeing playing out in multiple states because of the number of people coming across the border.”

Trump has huge liabilities, of course. His favorability ratings are notably poor, he brings chaos in his wake and critics see him as an existential threat to American democracy itself.

For all that, he is running neck-and-neck with Biden in early general election polls.

“It’s pretty clear that the Democratic strategy is, ‘Voters will never vote for an indicted or convicted nominee,’” said the Democratic strategist who wanted to remain anonymous.

“But my response to that is — it depends on how bad things are.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4219325-democrats-fret-trump-more-electable-than-believed/

Trump is the biggest popular vote getter in US History, beating Obama in the same number of races by millions of votes

Now Haley is being pushed as the Warmongering "Senate" Choice.

She doesn't have a chance in hell.

All of the top 5 candidates after Trump can't match him combined in polls.

It is time to circle around the Trump Wagon.

"I can't spare this man, he fights" - Lincoln on Grant.

Ceffer says

socal2 says

Make it make sense!

Stop being spun and take off the blindfold if you will. However, you can believe anything you want. However, propaganda beguilement isn't selling so well these days.

Presidential Medal of Freedom is different than President commendation.
Trump did NOT give Fauci the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Trump up by 10% over Birdbrain Biden in latest ABC poll

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

My concern is that the Dems and news media are trying to manage the narrative so that by summer of next year it will be all good news about Biden and the economy. So they are letting all the bad news come out now until spring of next year.

Thanks for triggering my brain on something, @ad

I noticed a few weeks after the election and Jan6, once the bruhaha waned and these Number Crunchers got over the victory and started their "Explanations" about "How" Biden won, they got very twitchy, nervous, and vague.

I think they realized the pattern was very, very strange, and I think they know.