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AD
2024 Apr 9, 6:19pm
AD
2024 Apr 9, 6:19pm
HeadSet says
I think there is one as they identified themselves as a USNA alum. It was about 4 years ago at least when they did identify themselves.
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AD says
that one Patnet poster who I think is a Naval Academy alum
We have a Canoe U poster here?
I think there is one as they identified themselves as a USNA alum. It was about 4 years ago at least when they did identify themselves.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 10, 8:54am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 10, 8:54am
AD says
I agree with the first part, kind of my whole point. But not with the second. We had better tech in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos. How did that work out? We sent better tech to Ukraine, how are they doing? No one conquers a people without a ground invasion. Which is why they push so hard to disarm us, inject us with poison, etc.
So my question, if they don't believe their tech is enough, why should you?
AD says
WAAHHH HAHAHAHAHA!!! You mean like when they announced 1.8 trillion missing on 9/10? Until you understand money laundering, NASA, and the significance of that press conference, you're just gonna continue to make hilarious statements like the above.
Let me go back to my time tested question. Tell me when government involvement has EVER made ANYTHING better?
You don't need a 2 million standing army (i..e, active duty , not reserve and national guard). You don't need that with the technology of war today.
I agree with the first part, kind of my whole point. But not with the second. We had better tech in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos. How did that work out? We sent better tech to Ukraine, how are they doing? No one conquers a people without a ground invasion. Which is why they push so hard to disarm us, inject us with poison, etc.
So my question, if they don't believe their tech is enough, why should you?
AD says
Its about about the Pentagon wisely spending taxpayer dollars to ensure the adequate readiness level.
WAAHHH HAHAHAHAHA!!! You mean like when they announced 1.8 trillion missing on 9/10? Until you understand money laundering, NASA, and the significance of that press conference, you're just gonna continue to make hilarious statements like the above.
Let me go back to my time tested question. Tell me when government involvement has EVER made ANYTHING better?
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 10, 8:58am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 10, 8:58am
HeadSet says
If we're putting qualifiers what about England's army being mostly mercenaries? What about a majority of Americans being Loyalists? Does it really matter? Whether England or the US had help, the outcome is still largest empire in the world lost to a volunteer army where the soldiers literally left during the war to harvest their crops.
With quite a spot of help from the French. I 1812 we could not stop the British from landing near Yorktown and marching around 100 miles to sack Washinton.
If we're putting qualifiers what about England's army being mostly mercenaries? What about a majority of Americans being Loyalists? Does it really matter? Whether England or the US had help, the outcome is still largest empire in the world lost to a volunteer army where the soldiers literally left during the war to harvest their crops.
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AmericanKulak
2024 Apr 10, 10:11am
AmericanKulak
2024 Apr 10, 10:11am
Submarines, not Carriers, are the wave of the future.
Only submarines have the survivability and resilience. It's the ultimate asymetric response to raw-materials import dependent CHYna.
Dozens of shallow water optimized D/E boats with harpoons sending every Liberian tanker and bulk carrier loaded with MENA Oil and Aussie Iron to Davey Jones' Locker in the Java and South China sea. Better yet, the Indian Ocean where Chinese assets and bases are more limited and India may very well act if Chinese presence was to intensify.
The Chinese have spent two decades on Carrier busting missiles and conventional MIRV-like vehicles. POOF!
Only submarines have the survivability and resilience. It's the ultimate asymetric response to raw-materials import dependent CHYna.
Dozens of shallow water optimized D/E boats with harpoons sending every Liberian tanker and bulk carrier loaded with MENA Oil and Aussie Iron to Davey Jones' Locker in the Java and South China sea. Better yet, the Indian Ocean where Chinese assets and bases are more limited and India may very well act if Chinese presence was to intensify.
The Chinese have spent two decades on Carrier busting missiles and conventional MIRV-like vehicles. POOF!
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clambo
2024 Apr 10, 1:43pm
I just used HR Block and did my 2023 1040 in an hour and a half.
My tax rate was pretty low.
Adjusted Gross Income=$103,712
Actual Tax Due=$9724
As you can see, this is not a bad rate at all. The secret is probably the large dividend distributions from my mutual funds are "qualified dividends".
I'm not actually spending my retirement accounts, taxable accounts and variable annuity; this is from a couple of bond funds, a balanced fund, and annual dividend distributions from other funds which do that every December (e.g. Vanguard Total Stock Market Fund, etc.)
I have an inherited IRA worth about $200K and I take about $10K out which is going up each year (RMD is based on my age).
I filed electronically so maybe if there's an error I will hear about it pretty soon.
Edit: My Medicare and drug benefit called Part D (deducted from my social security payments) were $4334 in 2023.
My tax rate was pretty low.
Adjusted Gross Income=$103,712
Actual Tax Due=$9724
As you can see, this is not a bad rate at all. The secret is probably the large dividend distributions from my mutual funds are "qualified dividends".
I'm not actually spending my retirement accounts, taxable accounts and variable annuity; this is from a couple of bond funds, a balanced fund, and annual dividend distributions from other funds which do that every December (e.g. Vanguard Total Stock Market Fund, etc.)
I have an inherited IRA worth about $200K and I take about $10K out which is going up each year (RMD is based on my age).
I filed electronically so maybe if there's an error I will hear about it pretty soon.
Edit: My Medicare and drug benefit called Part D (deducted from my social security payments) were $4334 in 2023.
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HeadSet
2024 Apr 10, 2:20pm
HeadSet
2024 Apr 10, 2:20pm
clambo says
I though inherited IRAs had to be spent down in 10 years regardless of inheritor's age, whether Roth or Traditional, unless you got it from a spouse. Another exception for chronically ill, but I do not think that would apply to you.
I have an inherited IRA worth about $200K and I take about $10K out which is going up each year (RMD is based on my age).
I though inherited IRAs had to be spent down in 10 years regardless of inheritor's age, whether Roth or Traditional, unless you got it from a spouse. Another exception for chronically ill, but I do not think that would apply to you.
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clambo
2024 Apr 10, 4:21pm
Headset, I believe the RMD rules that applied when I inherited in 2017 still apply.
Those who recently inherited an IRA will have different rules.
I think the new RMD rules suck; of course we all want to delay taking money out of an inherited IRA.
Those who recently inherited an IRA will have different rules.
I think the new RMD rules suck; of course we all want to delay taking money out of an inherited IRA.
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HeadSet
2024 Apr 10, 6:37pm
HeadSet
2024 Apr 10, 6:37pm
clambo says
Correct, you are grandfathered if you inherited the IRA before 2020.
Headset, I believe the RMD rules that applied when I inherited in 2017 it still apply.
Correct, you are grandfathered if you inherited the IRA before 2020.
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AD
2024 Apr 10, 10:49pm
AD
2024 Apr 10, 10:49pm
AmericanKulak says
Yes, I read now Lockheed's hypersonic missiles are being deployed on Navy ships this year. It looks like the Virginia Class submarine is fitted to deploy both the Tomahawk cruise missile and the hypersonic missile. I can see where the Virginia class can conduct land attack missions such as with the Lockheed hypersonic missiles.
Submarines, not Carriers, are the wave of the future.
Yes, I read now Lockheed's hypersonic missiles are being deployed on Navy ships this year. It looks like the Virginia Class submarine is fitted to deploy both the Tomahawk cruise missile and the hypersonic missile. I can see where the Virginia class can conduct land attack missions such as with the Lockheed hypersonic missiles.
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AD
2024 Apr 10, 11:00pm
AD
2024 Apr 10, 11:00pm
NuttBoxer says
yes i agree, but you can ramp up over 1 year for a ground invasion such as train national guard and reserves and recruit a lot more
that is why you do not need a major standing army as you achieve or gain one by that 1 year period , hence this is a way to wisely spend money for national security and not put as much demand on tax dollars
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No one conquers a people without a ground invasion.
yes i agree, but you can ramp up over 1 year for a ground invasion such as train national guard and reserves and recruit a lot more
that is why you do not need a major standing army as you achieve or gain one by that 1 year period , hence this is a way to wisely spend money for national security and not put as much demand on tax dollars
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 11, 6:57am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 11, 6:57am
National security is the guise they used to pass the Patriot Act. It's the excuse they made for jailing Manning, Assange, and Snowden(if they had caught him).
Standing armies/national defense/national security is only possible with a central bank. These efforts are all prohibitively expensive, and contrary to the concepts this country was founded on. Mainly our freedom. Look at everything done in the name of any of these, especially around OKC, Waco, Ruby Ridge, 9/11, and everything that's happened since then. I don't think you've stepped back to understand the reality of what they are doing versus the newspeak of what they claim.
Standing armies/national defense/national security is only possible with a central bank. These efforts are all prohibitively expensive, and contrary to the concepts this country was founded on. Mainly our freedom. Look at everything done in the name of any of these, especially around OKC, Waco, Ruby Ridge, 9/11, and everything that's happened since then. I don't think you've stepped back to understand the reality of what they are doing versus the newspeak of what they claim.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 11, 6:59am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 11, 6:59am
And similar to US war planes article that recently stated 70% aren't working, US drones sucks ass as well(re-think your paradigm):
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-drones-are-expensive-and-error-prone-so-ukraine-turns-china
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-drones-are-expensive-and-error-prone-so-ukraine-turns-china
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GreaterNYCDude
2024 May 13, 7:40pm
Federal (Effective Rate): 13.5%
State (Effective Rate): 5.7%
Social Security: 6.2%
Medicare: 1.5%
Property Taxes: 5.6%
= 32.5% off the top
Plus
Sales Tax: 8%
Plus "hidden" taxes, fees surcharges, etc.
40% of our house hold income goes back to the government.
State (Effective Rate): 5.7%
Social Security: 6.2%
Medicare: 1.5%
Property Taxes: 5.6%
= 32.5% off the top
Plus
Sales Tax: 8%
Plus "hidden" taxes, fees surcharges, etc.
40% of our house hold income goes back to the government.
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rocketjoe79
2024 May 22, 10:22am
rocketjoe79
2024 May 22, 10:22am
So If I go to, say, Portugal, won't my Social Security Income still be taxed before I receive my check?
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clambo
2024 May 22, 12:15pm
US Citizens and legal residents must file a 1040 regardless of where they reside.
Simply moving doesn't save Federal taxes, just state taxes.
Simply moving doesn't save Federal taxes, just state taxes.
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WookieMan
2024 May 22, 1:50pm
WookieMan
2024 May 22, 1:50pm
clambo says
False if you become a citizen of the country you move to. Most want your money and bam, you're a citizen at that point. Either way this is why Puerto Rico and the USVI is a good move as territories. Nothing you need to do and tax advantaged. Hurricanes suck, but the Caribbean is one of the best places on the planet. That's where my snow bird condo will be and I can erase taxes.
US Citizens and legal residents must file a 1040 regardless of where they reside.
Simply moving doesn't save Federal taxes, just state taxes.
False if you become a citizen of the country you move to. Most want your money and bam, you're a citizen at that point. Either way this is why Puerto Rico and the USVI is a good move as territories. Nothing you need to do and tax advantaged. Hurricanes suck, but the Caribbean is one of the best places on the planet. That's where my snow bird condo will be and I can erase taxes.
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RWSGFY
2024 May 22, 3:03pm
RWSGFY
2024 May 22, 3:03pm
rocketjoe79 says
If you stay a US citizen, than yes. And if you renounce your citizenship then no SS check will be coming your way, per my understanding.
So If I go to, say, Portugal, won't my Social Security Income still be taxed before I receive my check?
If you stay a US citizen, than yes. And if you renounce your citizenship then no SS check will be coming your way, per my understanding.
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RWSGFY
2024 May 22, 3:05pm
RWSGFY
2024 May 22, 3:05pm
WookieMan says
Make it a snow bird bunker and hurricanes won't be an issue.
clambo says
US Citizens and legal residents must file a 1040 regardless of where they reside.
Simply moving doesn't save Federal taxes, just state taxes.
False if you become a citizen of the country you move to. Most want your money and bam, you're a citizen at that point. Either way this is why Puerto Rico and the USVI is a good move as territories. Nothing you need to do and tax advantaged. Hurricanes suck, but the Caribbean is one of the best places on the planet. That's where my snow bird condo will be and I can erase taxes.
Make it a snow bird bunker and hurricanes won't be an issue.
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Eric Holder
2024 May 22, 4:47pm
Eric Holder
2024 May 22, 4:47pm
RWSGFY says
No check - no taxes! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
rocketjoe79 says
So If I go to, say, Portugal, won't my Social Security Income still be taxed before I receive my check?
If you stay a US citizen, than yes. And if you renounce your citizenship then no SS check will be coming your way, per my understanding.
No check - no taxes! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 May 23, 6:44am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 May 23, 6:44am
Moving isn't necessary, renouncing citizenship is. Although even that seems questionable as they just arrested Crypto Jesus despite him living in Spain, and no longer being a US citizen.
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RWSGFY
2024 May 23, 9:01am
RWSGFY
2024 May 23, 9:01am
NuttBoxer says
He moved to Spain for lower taxes?
Moving isn't necessary, renouncing citizenship is. Although even that seems questionable as they just arrested Crypto Jesus despite him living in Spain, and no longer being a US citizen.
He moved to Spain for lower taxes?
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 May 23, 8:30pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 May 23, 8:30pm
RWSGFY says
No idea.
NuttBoxer says
Moving isn't necessary, renouncing citizenship is. Although even that seems questionable as they just arrested Crypto Jesus despite him living in Spain, and no longer being a US citizen.
He moved to Spain for lower taxes?
No idea.
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clambo
2024 May 24, 5:15am
The only real way to avoid taxes has been mentioned previously; a Roth IRA, an HSA, live in a non tax state, and have your cash in municipal bonds.
Some guys actually do this; a guy in S. Florida has millions of dollars in muni bonds and pays no taxes on his income.
Some guys actually do this; a guy in S. Florida has millions of dollars in muni bonds and pays no taxes on his income.
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GreaterNYCDude
2024 May 24, 6:44am
I have a Roth IRA and Roth 401 k, and just started an HSA this year. Obviously I live in a high tax area. I get some extra deductions from my side hustle (engineering consulting) but the amount I pay on my basic income is large once you add it all up.
Once I'm retired it will be less of an issue, house will be paid off and taxes are less than equivalent rent, but I can't touch that money until I'm 59.5 or it's subject to a 10% penalty.
I have three jobs. Main gig, plus side gigs of consulting and teaching. Plus two volunteer positions, one for my church one for myself. I like to say it keeps me out of trouble. Since I generally enjoy what I do, it doesn't always feel like work.
But Americans are heavily taxed even more heavily regulated and have little to show for it. Not sure how to fix the system, but it could use an overhaul.
Once I'm retired it will be less of an issue, house will be paid off and taxes are less than equivalent rent, but I can't touch that money until I'm 59.5 or it's subject to a 10% penalty.
I have three jobs. Main gig, plus side gigs of consulting and teaching. Plus two volunteer positions, one for my church one for myself. I like to say it keeps me out of trouble. Since I generally enjoy what I do, it doesn't always feel like work.
But Americans are heavily taxed even more heavily regulated and have little to show for it. Not sure how to fix the system, but it could use an overhaul.
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HeadSet
2024 May 24, 8:02am
HeadSet
2024 May 24, 8:02am
GreaterNYCDude says
Some Americans. Most Americans are net tax collectors. with the bill being paid by earners outside the government sector and by government deficits and printing.
Americans are heavily taxed
Some Americans. Most Americans are net tax collectors. with the bill being paid by earners outside the government sector and by government deficits and printing.
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RWSGFY
2024 May 24, 8:59am
RWSGFY
2024 May 24, 8:59am
NuttBoxer says
I don't think Spain has lower taxes than US. They are way more Socialist than even Kommiefornia. Which makes it a weird destination to relocate to fir someone not keen on paying taxes.
RWSGFY says
NuttBoxer says
Moving isn't necessary, renouncing citizenship is. Although even that seems questionable as they just arrested Crypto Jesus despite him living in Spain, and no longer being a US citizen.
He moved to Spain for lower taxes?
No idea.
I don't think Spain has lower taxes than US. They are way more Socialist than even Kommiefornia. Which makes it a weird destination to relocate to fir someone not keen on paying taxes.
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WookieMan
2024 May 24, 10:06am
WookieMan
2024 May 24, 10:06am
HeadSet says
This. The whole Mitt Romney thing where he said 47% of people don't pay taxes or whatever it was is pretty true. He got one thing right at least... People bitch about taxes because it comes out of their checks and they see it. Most lower earners overpay and bitch and then get it refunded not knowing they pay nothing. Basically uneducated about how taxes work.
SS is a forced savings account and the medical stuff is for when you're old. Perfect system? Hell no, but it's there to help people that don't save. Also most people don't realize on the employer side they're paying 6.2% or whatever it is now for your social security as well.
Most people will never realize how it is until they get to about $150k+ annually. So "maybe" 25% of the population has a rough understanding of taxation. H&R Block exists for a reason. People have no clue how they're taxed so they just pay the McDonalds of accounting.
GreaterNYCDude says
Americans are heavily taxed
Some Americans. Most Americans are net tax collectors. with the bill being paid by earners outside the government sector and by government deficits and printing.
This. The whole Mitt Romney thing where he said 47% of people don't pay taxes or whatever it was is pretty true. He got one thing right at least... People bitch about taxes because it comes out of their checks and they see it. Most lower earners overpay and bitch and then get it refunded not knowing they pay nothing. Basically uneducated about how taxes work.
SS is a forced savings account and the medical stuff is for when you're old. Perfect system? Hell no, but it's there to help people that don't save. Also most people don't realize on the employer side they're paying 6.2% or whatever it is now for your social security as well.
Most people will never realize how it is until they get to about $150k+ annually. So "maybe" 25% of the population has a rough understanding of taxation. H&R Block exists for a reason. People have no clue how they're taxed so they just pay the McDonalds of accounting.
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Until the 16th ammendment was passed in the early 1900's, we got by without fedetal income taxes. Tariffs did the trick. Of course, we were not yet the superpower we became, huge millitary and all, and there were not nearly the federally funded social programs we have today.
Frankly, I don't think your average American realizes how heavily they are taxed. Federal. State (with some excaptions) Property. School. Gas. Sales. Etc.
For most in the middle and upper middle class, federal income tax is the biggest share of taxes paid on a percentage basis.
In a modern captalist economy, it makes more sense to me to tax consumption rather than income.
So why not abolish the federal income tax, and instead have a federal tax on goods and services rendered. Better yet, couple it with a balanced budget amment so that the government can't spend money they don't have.
Taxing goods should be straightforward to implement. Buy a bag of rice, clothes, a house, a car, stock, etc. tax it at a nominal rate to raise sufficent revenue to keep the government running. Tax should apply to individuals and corporations alike. I have no idea what the rate would need to be to replace the lost income income revenue, but there must be a way for the been counters to figure that out.
Same holds for services. From your lawyer to your plumber to your accountant.. services rendered should also be taxed... possibly at a different rate than physical goods, since we are a "service based economy".
Just thinking out loud here.. In the 21st century there MUST be a better way to raise revenue than income tax and the various loopholes used to reduce or even avoid ones tax burden.