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2022 Mar 8, 11:35am   98,519 views  583 comments

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https://slaynews.com/news/aaa-lists-10-most-expensive-states-for-gas-9-are-blue-states-in-bad-sign-for-joe-and-kamala/?source=patrick.net


AAA Lists Most Expensive States for Gas: 9 of Top 10 Are Run by Democrats
David Hawkins March 8, 2022

According to AAA here are the most expensive states for gas as of Monday:

The American Automobile Association (AAA) has listed the top-ten most expensive states to buy gas, nine of which are run by Democrats.

According to AAA, the national average for a gallon of gas is $4.06 and rising.

The average is now 45 cents more than a week ago, 62 cents more than a month ago, and $1.30 more than a year ago.

And it promises to get worse as the West debates banning Russian oil.

AAA has released a list of the ten states with the most expensive gas prices and most are blue states.

The only red state in the top ten is Alaska, which surprisingly comes in at number 6.

Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis at GasBuddy, said:

“There are few words to describe the unprecedented rise in gasoline prices over the last week, with massive spikes coast to coast in both gasoline and diesel prices, as oil prices jump to their highest since 2008. ...

California: $5.34
Hawaii: $4.69
Nevada: $4.59
Oregon: $4.51
Washington: $4.44
Alaska: $4.39
Illinois: $4.30
Connecticut: $4.28
New York: $4.26
Pennsylvania: $4.23




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539   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Apr 22, 12:58pm  

Menlo Park:


...and now Wookie starts his "Who Gives A Shit About California" rant on a gasoline price thread that doesn't say 'except California' on it's main post.
540   RWSGFY   2024 Apr 22, 2:01pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says


Menlo Park:


...and now Wookie starts his "Who Gives A Shit About California" rant on a gasoline price thread that doesn't say 'except California' on it's main post.


When they see this station from CA-101 the Tesla-driving fuckbook employees will pat themselves on the back for being so smart and not needing any gasoline.



Anyway, it has 0 bearing on the upcoming election here. CA is not going red over some silly gas prices.
541   Patrick   2024 Apr 22, 8:27pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Menlo Park:


I think I know that station. I'll have to go over and see if it still has those prices.
542   WookieMan   2024 Apr 22, 11:23pm  

RWSGFY says

When they see this station from CA-101 the Tesla-driving fuckbook employees will pat themselves on the back for being so smart and not needing any gasoline.

That image has been my point on EV's in CA. They're going to have to change that first number to fit 2 digits. Or buy new signs for $10 gas prices. Tax revenue is down on fuel. CA has constant grid issues. The breaking point is coming as the likes of Tesla hit market saturation. CA is going to get their tax money somehow or you guys will be driving on gravel roads. It's too early to target EV's, but I think 2025 some changes are a coming on how they tax them.
543   HeadSet   2024 Apr 23, 7:18am  

WookieMan says

CA is going to get their tax money somehow or you guys will be driving on gravel roads.

That will be from tolls. You know, like the Ohio Turnpike. More and more roads will become toll roads and electric and ICE will use EasyPass.
544   Onvacation   2024 Apr 23, 7:43am  

$5.49 for premium in Martinez.

Filled my tank for less than a $100.
545   HeadSet   2024 Apr 23, 7:56am  

Onvacation says

$5.49 for premium in Martinez.

Filled my tank for less than a $100.

Seems you have been acclimated to think filling an 18 gallon tank for "under a $100" is cheap. Around here, during Trump's last year, filling an empty 18 gallon tank was less than $40.
546   RWSGFY   2024 Apr 23, 8:00am  

We've been through this already: EV's are taxed in CA via add-on reg fee to offset the loss of gas tax revenue.
547   RWSGFY   2024 Apr 23, 8:02am  

HeadSet says

Onvacation says


$5.49 for premium in Martinez.

Filled my tank for less than a $100.

Seems you have been acclimated to think filling an 18 gallon tank for "under a $100" is cheap. Around here, during Trump's last year, filling an empty 18 gallon tank was less than $40.


It's not that. There is usually $100 cut-off at the pump, which is annoying, so if you can fill up w/o swiping twice it registers as a positive event.🙃
548   HeadSet   2024 Apr 23, 8:20am  

RWSGFY says

There is usually $100 cut-off at the pump, which is annoying, so if you can fill up w/o swiping twice it registers as a positive event

Wow. Few people outside of CA would have any idea that such a cutoff issue would exist. I suppose that if one state had gas pumps that gave the user a static shock when you first lift the handle, the time you do not get that shock would also be welcomed as a positive event.
549   RWSGFY   2024 Apr 23, 8:21am  

HeadSet says

RWSGFY says


There is usually $100 cut-off at the pump, which is annoying, so if you can fill up w/o swiping twice it registers as a positive event

Wow. Few people outside of CA would have any idea that such a cutoff issue would exist. I suppose that if one state had gas pumps that gave the user a static shock when you first lift the handle, the time you do not get that shock would also be welcomed as a positive event.


RV people know.
550   HeadSet   2024 Apr 23, 8:41am  

RWSGFY says

RV people know.

Yes, makes sense. I presume that RVs that use diesel do not have that $100 issue, as I cannot imagine that pumps that also serve Peterbilts do not routinely exceed $100 per fill.
551   RWSGFY   2024 Apr 23, 8:55am  

HeadSet says


RWSGFY says


RV people know.

Yes, makes sense. I presume that RVs that use diesel do not have that $100 issue, as I cannot imagine that pumps that also serve Peterbilts do not routinely exceed $100 per fill.



No idea, as I only rented gas-powered ones in the US.

PS. Fun fact: in NZ whatever money you save by renting a diesel RV will be clawed back by per-mile surcharge their government tacks onto the rental bill. They do it only to diesels.
552   Onvacation   2024 Apr 23, 11:40am  

No more $100 cut off. I wish I didn't know that.

This mornings fill-up cost $97.

The price we pay to live in the paradise called California.
553   Patrick   2024 Apr 23, 2:53pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says


Menlo Park:



I biked over and took a picture. But note that that is just about the most expensive station in Menlo Park, being very near Sand Hill Road where all the VC's are:


554   Patrick   2024 Apr 23, 2:53pm  

@UkraineIsTotallyFucked ^^
555   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Apr 23, 4:52pm  

Patrick says

UkraineIsTotallyFucked ^^


Looks like it went down.
556   WookieMan   2024 Apr 24, 4:39am  

HeadSet says

That will be from tolls. You know, like the Ohio Turnpike. More and more roads will become toll roads and electric and ICE will use EasyPass.

Ohio and Indiana can eat mounds of shit. It cost me $60 one way to get to central Ohio from IL. And the roads can eat shit. They suck. Like really suck. I'll fly to Cleveland as it's cheaper than driving round trip.

We get income personally from IL toll roads (bias), but they do actually have some of the best toll roads in the nation. Besides bridge tolls, most toll roads are trash. State and federally funded projects/roads in IL are fucking AIDS sucking a dogs dick. IDOT is a fuck that fucks itself. Sorry, touchy subject for me. Government bull shit too. We should be in 7 figure land annually but the fucking state of IL is a pile of shit governmentally. The state highways are trash. Toll roads awesome. Counties above average. Townships... eh. Depends.
557   clambo   2024 Apr 24, 5:36am  

It's too bad that the dipshit "central planners" didn't encourage natural gas (methane) cars.

You can fill up for cheap; they also burn natural gas to generate the electricity to charge your Tesla, Bolt, etc.

Honda sold a Civic CNG for a while, but evidently not enough people bought them.

I was considering converting my car to natural gas but decided fuckit, just keep my life simple.

Natural gas doesn't require refining, like petroleum does. It produces less CO2 than gasoline when burned (not important to me).

Buses and Amazon and UPS trucks are running on natural gas.
558   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Apr 24, 9:20am  

I read somewhere that there are now CNG/gas combo engines.
559   HeadSet   2024 Apr 24, 10:17am  

WookieMan says

It cost me $60 one way to get to central Ohio from IL

Get used to it. More tolls is how roads will be funded when gas consumption decreases.
560   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Apr 24, 11:06am  

HeadSet says

More tolls is how roads will be funded when gas consumption decreases.


Gas consumption decreases?

Never heard of Jevon's Paradox, have you?
561   HeadSet   2024 Apr 24, 1:00pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Never heard of Jevon's Paradox, have you?

So you think that more fuel-efficient ICE, hybrid and electric cars will lower the demand for gas enough that the price falls and people will just buy more gas because it is cheap?
562   RWSGFY   2024 Apr 24, 2:50pm  

HeadSet says

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says


Never heard of Jevon's Paradox, have you?

So you think that more fuel-efficient ICE, hybrid and electric cars will lower the demand for gas enough that the price falls and people will just buy more gas because it is cheap?


You and me - probably not. Some slice of low-income population who restricts their driving based on cost of gas - sure. Is it big enough to make a dramatic difference - no idea.
563   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Apr 24, 2:58pm  

HeadSet says


So you think that more fuel-efficient ICE, hybrid and electric cars will lower the demand for gas enough that the price falls and people will just buy more gas because it is cheap?


1) EVs are fucked. At best, they have plateaued in market share. https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=2056511
2) Hybrids is where the efficiencies will happen.

But either way, gasoline consumption at the very least will not fall much.

Oh, and historically that is what happened:

When cars became more fuel-efficient, people started driving more. This is an example of the Jevons Paradox because instead of saving gas from the better mileage, people used it as a reason to drive longer distances or more often, which led to more gas being used overall.


https://philosophyterms.com/jevons-paradox/amp/
565   WookieMan   2024 May 7, 4:23am  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

1) EVs are fucked. At best, they have plateaud in market share.

I don't think the EV lovers understand this. A good percentage of the population simply won't buy them, specifically men. Also charging one is like running an AC condenser for the day. We don't have the grid for much more expansion of EV's without them getting taxed or electric rates going through the roof. They don't pay for the roads, but are holier than thou with their eco bull shit. The day of reckoning is coming.

If people want zero emissions ride a fucking horse. Seriously. They're modestly fast in an urban settings. Exponentially cheaper than any EV on the market. Feed is less than gas.

EV owners just need to come out of the closet. The want a zippy car because they couldn't afford the fast ICE cars. Until they realize golf carts have been electric for 40 years, they won't get it. Sure there are gas carts, and are cheaper to operate, but EV tech has been around for everyone's lifetimes. Talk to a golf cart distributor. 99% of them us gas because it's cheaper. They only lease electric carts because of sound to yuppie country clubs that don't want sound when they're swinging a club.
566   richwicks   2024 May 7, 4:36am  

WookieMan says

If people want zero emissions ride a fucking horse. Seriously. They're modestly fast in an urban settings. Exponentially cheaper than any EV on the market. Feed is less than gas.


You ever own a horse? They're not cheap, they need regular maintenance, you can't just have one, you need at least two, or some other companion animal like a donkey or something.

My grandparents had horses when they were young instead of cars, they would never want to go back to that.
567   WookieMan   2024 May 7, 4:53am  

richwicks says

WookieMan says


If people want zero emissions ride a fucking horse. Seriously. They're modestly fast in an urban settings. Exponentially cheaper than any EV on the market. Feed is less than gas.


You ever own a horse? They're not cheap, they need regular maintenance, you can't just have one, you need at least two, or some other companion animal like a donkey or something.

My grandparents had horses when they were young instead of cars, they would never want to go back to that.

I'm in the country. I literally was hanging out with horse people Sunday. Hell weekly, good people. It's cheaper than a Tesla by a large margin. They could ride it into town in 4 minutes if they wanted to go quick. We have human shit on streets in cities, so what's the difference? Get a horse. It's undoubtedly cheaper than a Tesla or any other full EV car maker. More green/eco than a Tesla. For the range a horse is probably better anyway.
568   richwicks   2024 May 7, 5:06am  

WookieMan says

I'm in the country. I literally was hanging out with horse people Sunday. Hell weekly, good people. It's cheaper than a Tesla by a large margin. They could ride it into town in 4 minutes if they wanted to go quick.


Well, I know how inconvenient they are. My sister and husband owned one, you can over-feed it, you have to get silage for it in the winter, they can be unpredictable.

It's definitely cheaper than a Tesla, but it's quite bit to own one. You don't just pop down to the store, and then get back and leave it in the garage, or even the pasture.

WookieMan says

We have human shit on streets in cities, so what's the difference?


I'd much rather step in horse shit than human shit. Horse manure, it's just a bunch of plants, it's not rank like human feces.
569   WookieMan   2024 May 7, 6:39am  

richwicks says

Well, I know how inconvenient they are.

It's work for sure. Cheaper than an overpriced car though as you yourself say. Most EV drivers are going a couple miles. There's no utility to them. You can accelerate 0-30 in 1 second. Great. Then need to charge it for 30 minutes if not hours overnight with your $20k solar panels. What a deal....

I'll take the horse. Not joking either. Give me a free horse or EV, I'll take the horse. I'll just take the vehicle that I can fuel up in 3 minutes and go about my day. Or a horse. Both are better than an EV. I don't even like horses either.
570   ForcedTQ   2024 May 7, 6:54am  

Patrick says






That’s that CARBOB price premium, Renewable Fuel Standard and State Taxes/Fees staring us in the face. Doing absolutely fuck all to actually make any kind of difference for the better in our horribly retarded state.
571   anniecoyote   2024 May 7, 9:19am  

On our way back from Surprise Valley in Modoc County, CA we bought diesel in Carson City area at $4.12 per gallon then kicked ourselves because down the road in Minden it was $3.64. Also, in Oroville CA at the Feather River Rancheria they had $3.99 diesel. Here in my town it's $5.29
572   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 May 7, 4:06pm  

WookieMan says


I don't think the EV lovers understand this. A good percentage of the population simply won't buy them, specifically men.


Yup. They don't want to understand it.

It's ideological too. Not just men. Hence probably why the EV fluffers don't want to admit to this. And if they do, then they must descent into a 'Deplorable' type rant.





Retirement communities are big on EV golf carts. My parents have one as do most of their neighbors.
573   HeadSet   2024 May 8, 9:01am  

WookieMan says

Give me a free horse or EV, I'll take the horse.

True, you cannot stump-broke an EV.
574   Patrick   2024 May 10, 3:36pm  




Maybe posted before.
575   Patrick   2024 May 15, 7:27pm  

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/democrat-run-california-imposes-secret-50-cent-per/


An emissions reduction program by an environmental regulator will lead to a 50-cent per gallon of gasoline increase, according to a report by a state environment regulator.

Last year the California Air Resources Board (CARB) said gas prices would increase by 50 cents next year and every year after in order to reduce emissions.

This is in addition to California’s existing gas tax!
576   clambo   2024 May 15, 8:15pm  

Palm Beach County, $3.43 today.

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