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I think it was @Patrick that posted crime statistics showing how many times more likely a white person is to be the victim of violence by black perpetrator compared to vice versa.

What was the national number Patrick? 28x or something.

Well a lot of hate and resentment by blacks due to how our white ancestors treated them. Like dogs. Whites born in post slavery era legitimately claim they are not responsible for the sins of their ancestors.
Blacks born in post slavery era are much more likely to be in a poor handicapped situation thus are more likely to blame whity for their lot in life.
Some type of assist to lift blacks up and into an equal situation with whity when borne is needed to end this cycle . Handouts are not the solution, only going into the hands of the corrupt.
The solution is out there waiting to be discovered and embraced.
BayArea says

I think it was @Patrick that posted crime statistics showing how many times more likely a white person is to be the victim of violence against a black perpetrator compared to vice versa.

BlueSardine says

how our white ancestors treated them

Most white Americans' ancestors did no such thing. Do you actually believe what you are saying?

BlueSardine says

Well a lot of hate and resentment by blacks due to how our white ancestors treated them. Like dogs. Whites born in post slavery era legitimately claim they are not responsible for the sins of their ancestors.
Blacks born in post slavery era are much more likely to be in a poor handicapped situation thus are more likely to blame whity for their lot in life.
Some type of assist to lift blacks up and into an equal situation with whity when borne is needed to end this cycle . Handouts are not the solution, only going into the hands of the corrupt.
The solution is out there waiting to be discovered and embraced.
BayArea says

I think it was @Patrick that posted crime statistics showing how many times more likely a white person is to be the victim of violence against a black perpetrator compared to vice versa.

God help this guy, he’s been tenderized to a pulp by CNN and Wapo.

Irrelevant.
White people enslaved the blacks and brought them to america.
Do you deny this?
willywonka says

BlueSardine says

how our white ancestors treated them

Most white Americans' ancestors did no such thing. Do you actually believe what you are saying?

Nope.
I hate Clinton News Network more than you.
Don't read Wapo.
Just common sense observations.

BayArea says

God help this guy, he’s been tenderized to a pulp by CNN and Wapo.

Peruse my post history if you have doubts about my libbyfuck pov...

BayArea says

God help this guy, he’s been tenderized to a pulp by CNN and Wapo.

BlueSardine says

Irrelevant.
White people enslaved the blacks and brought them to america.

The actual enslavement was done by their own black compatriots (as well as Arabs) in Africa. Moreover, the slavery there continued well after it was abolished in US.

True, but it was the white man in america who bought them, enslaved them, hung them, raped them.
Remember we are addressing modern day inequality at birth, and why the black man attacks white people at a very high ratio.
We can all sit around the campfire and bitch about it, or fix the situation so that ratio returns to what is perceived as normal, and whity is not constantly looking over their shoulders when in the presence of black people.

Iranian_Oil_Burse says

The actual enslavement was done by their own black compatriots in Africa. Moreover, the slavery there continued well after it was abolished elsewhere.

We need a clearing house for poor people where they can move ahead in life.
No handouts.
something like
* free education in areas holding them back
* help with food and expenses
tied to attending education classes
not tied to any kind of welfare
* help in gaining employment with living wages
not tied to any kind of minimum wage
tied to skills acquired during educational opportunities
* Not race based, for poor people
* the effort has to be made by poor people to take advantage of this.

Just some rough ideas.

After over fifty years of discrimination AGAINST whites and Asians, they have discovered that the magical levitation act of elevating the 'downtrodden' doesn't seem to work short of passing out gold stars and fake diplomas with no actual attained education or merit. It's the revolution of Potemkin merit while you cringe, avoid and bite your nails hoping it doesn't come your direction

You can't elevate that which doesn't choose to rise on it's own, no matter how many 'opportunities' are granted, and there is a point where you have to recognize the delusion and stop trying to generate 'justice' by promoting institutional injustices feeding the delusion.

Most caterwauling about 'injustice' and 'oppression' these days aren't about either, they are about perpetuating a social scam to move assets from productive people to non-productive screaming leeches. Of course, in politics, it's about using our tax money to buy votes.

Time to get CcW permit. Fucking CA shit state.

This is crazy how racist liberals are toward whites.

BlueSardine says

Remember we are addressing modern day inequality at birth

Not buying it: the "inequality at birth" has ended several generations ago.

Or we can just be adults and move on from past mistakes. Getting in a pissing match about someone's great, great, great, great grandma being a slave is utter retardation. We don't enslave people anymore. Who cares in all honesty?

We gonna start reparations for dinosaurs? I'm sure that was our fault somehow too. Or wait, it's easier to blame the gorillas.

this.

no reparations, no welfare, more opportunities for downtrodden to advance. help with education and living expenses, tied at the hip

Ceffer says

You can't elevate that which doesn't choose to rise on it's own, no matter how many 'opportunities' are granted,

The ghetto. Provide a way out. But you wanna have to get out...

A hammerless pistol is a better choice for CC

BlueSardine says

Well a lot of hate and resentment by blacks due to how our white ancestors treated them. Like dogs. Whites born in post slavery era legitimately claim they are not responsible for the sins of their ancestors.
Blacks born in post slavery era are much more likely to be in a poor handicapped situation thus are more likely to blame whity for their lot in life.
Some type of assist to lift blacks up and into an equal situation with whity when borne is needed to end this cycle . Handouts are not the solution, only going into the hands of the corrupt.
The solution is out there waiting to be discovered and embraced.

I hope you understand that many US whites came from lineage that had nothing to do with slavery at all, there were no sins of ancestors. Skin color, however, is a common characteristic between them and descendants of slave owners (many of them anyways, there were also black slave owners). Think Polish/Italian/xUSSR/Irish/etc.

While a non-trivial number of blacks here are first/second generation immigrants from other continents, and have nothing to do with descendants of slaves. Skin color is a shared characteristic (although there were also white slaves). Ironically, they may in fact be descendants of people from other continents who sold their countrymen to ships that took them to slavery in US.

What you are describing - hating on a group because of their skin color - is definition of racism. Do you realize that this is how you are painting blacks in this country? (btw, I disagree)

BlueSardine says

Irrelevant.
White people enslaved the blacks and brought them to america.
Do you deny this?
willywonka says

BlueSardine says

how our white ancestors treated them

Most white Americans' ancestors did no such thing. Do you actually believe what you are saying?

What you say is irrelevant?

mostly_reader says

Think Polish/Italian/xUSSR/Irish/etc.

Also German immigrants, Nordic immigrants, many Scottish immigrants, Eastern European immigrants and the list goes on. All these white people have no “original sin” having slaver ancestors. I believe there was an article about this recently where about 13% of white people had slaver ancestors, as opposed to over 50% of black Americans.

Also, African immigrants seem to have zero problem assimilating and getting ahead in the USA.

WineHorror1 says

A hammerless pistol is a better choice for CC

Google "Glock leg".

mostly_reader says

I hope you understand that many US whites came from lineage that had nothing to do with slavery at all, there were no sins of ancestors. Skin color, however, is a common characteristic between them and descendants of slave owners (many of them anyways, there were also black slave owners). Think Polish/Italian/xUSSR/Irish/etc.

While a non-trivial number of blacks here are first/second generation immigrants from other continents, and have nothing to do with descendants of slaves. Skin color is a shared characteristic (although there were also white slaves). Ironically, they may in fact be descendants of people from other continents who sold their countrymen to ships that took them to slavery in US.

What you are describing - hating on a group because of their skin color - is definition of racism.

Yes, and the "white supremacy" hoax is just to give racists an excuse to hate, to make them feel good about their racism, which is an ugly thing. This serves the interests of Russia, the US Chamber of Commerce, and the Democratic Party, all of whom benefit immensely by getting Americans to fight with each other.

Not one of my ancestors had anything to do with slavery. And this is true for the large majority of Americans.

Give up hate, live in peace. You'll be much happier. Buddha said a few wise things about this:

Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.

Hatred has never been defeated by hatred, but only by love; this is an eternal rule.

BayArea says

What was the national number Patrick? 28x or something.

Depends on the crime. On the order of 10x to 20x for most violent crime, but infinite for rape.

That is, there tens of thousands of black rapes of white women each year but actually zero rapes of black women by white men. I know that seems unlikely, but it seems to be true. The FBI has taken to hiding these statistics, but they are still out there if you look.

Black people specifically seek out and target white people for violent crime far more than the reverse. The mainstream media will never publish this fact. The mainstream media undermines its own credibility by ignoring facts for political reasons.

Now, this fact of widespread black racism against whites should not be played up either. We should all try to get along and resist our common enemy, the US Chamber of Commerce.

BlueSardine says

due to how our white ancestors treated them

Not my ancestors.

Not one.

Yours? And even if yours had some guilt, should you be guilty for something you didn't do?

Blacks are the most racist people in the USA as a group.

They hate Whites, Koreans, Jews, and to a large degree Haitians, Jamaicans, and African Immigrants (who make them look full of shit)

mostly_reader says

I hope you understand that many US whites came from lineage that had nothing to do with slavery at all, there were no sins of ancestors. Skin color, however, is a common characteristic between them and descendants of slave owners (many of them anyways, there were also black slave owners). Think Polish/Italian/xUSSR/Irish/etc.

Moreover, if slavery which ended in 1863 in US is still having detrimental effects on the descendants of the slaves to this day, the same should be true for the descendants of slaves coming from Russian Empire where, coincidentally, the slavery was ended just two years earlier, yet nobody claims "inequality at birth" for that population.

And it would be weird to demand reparations for slavery from the descendants of the slaves, won't it?

I worked in Boston for a year and the Haitian cleaning woman at my job had two sons in medical school. She had no time for self-pitying black Americans. America was being very good to her and her sons, and she loved it here.

I admired her.

Iranian_Oil_Burse says

WineHorror1 says

A hammerless pistol is a better choice for CC

Google "Glock leg".

I still say hammerless is best. Clothing or fingers can get caught behind the hammer and render the weapon useless. Especially if you don't have time or can't pull it out of your pocket. Besides, one needs to learn best practices for any gun. Btw, doesn't a glock have a slide yet we're talking about glock leg? Maybe I misunderstood your comment and what side of the debate you are arguing for?

I haven't actually shot a hammerless gun but I would imagine the pull weight is a big factor.

WineHorror1 says

Iranian_Oil_Burse says

WineHorror1 says

A hammerless pistol is a better choice for CC

Google "Glock leg".

I still say hammerless is best. Clothing or fingers can get caught behind the hammer and render the weapon useless. Especially if you don't have time or can't pull it out of your pocket. Besides, one needs to learn best practices for any gun. Btw, doesn't a glock have a slide yet we're talking about glock leg? Maybe I misunderstood your comment and what side of the debate you are arguing for?

I haven't actually shot a hammerless gun but I would imagine the pull weight is a big factor.

There has been a significant uptick in self-shooting incidents since striker-fired pistols became the mainstream carry weapons. Happens mostly on re-holstering when either a piece of clothing or a fold in a holster itself catches the trigger. Pistols with hammers (even these w/o external safeties like P-series SIGs, for example) are usually re-holstered with a thumb on the said hammer, which prevents "Glock leg" scenario from happening.

And obligatory:

www.youtube.com/embed/am-Qdx6vky0

Patrick says

Black people specifically seek out and target white people for violent crime far more than the reverse. The mainstream media will never publish this fact. The mainstream media undermines its own credibility by ignoring facts for political reasons.

Here is a screamingly obvious example:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7390877/NYPD-arrest-black-man-committing-hate-crimes-against-white-people.html

Why do we have to go to a foreign newspaper site to read facts about life in the US?

Iranian_Oil_Burse says

with a thumb on the said hammer, which prevents "Glock leg" scenario from happening.

Hmm, sounds like good gun safety procedure. I am purchasing a pistol soon, I'll keep these things in mind when choosing one.

Those Obama Sons were damn lucky he was a Trump supporter. We're pretty reserved, but you don't want to fuck with us. All it would have taken though is one of those punks spitting in his face. Because they felt disrespected by him pulling a gun and interrupting their Liberal Arts Ritual.

Who is demanding reparations for blacks besides the lefty libfuck candidates?
Iranian_Oil_Burse says

And it would be weird to demand reparations for slavery from the descendants of the slaves, won't it?

Who said anything about inherited ancestral guilt and reparations?
BlueSardine says

Remember we are addressing modern day inequality at birth, and why the black man attacks white people at a very high ratio

Patrick says

BlueSardine says

due to how our white ancestors treated them

Not my ancestors.

Not one.

Yours? And even if yours had some guilt, should you be guilty for something you didn't do?

BlueSardine says

BlueSardine says

Remember we are addressing modern day inequality at birth, and why the black man attacks white people at a very high ratio

Nobodys claiming inequality at birth. The claim is the majority of black men start life as a child in a rat infested shithole as a side effect of centuries of slavery. Wealth is passed down through generations. Whity had all the wealth in the 1700s. Most whites are not born into a shithole. Do the math.
Iranian_Oil_Burse says

Moreover, if slavery which ended in 1863 in US is still having detrimental effects on the descendants of the slaves to this day, the same should be true for the descendants of slaves coming from Russian Empire where, coincidentally, the slavery was ended just two years earlier, yet nobody claims "inequality at birth" for that population.

Yall bitched at the beginning of this thread about high percentages of black on white crime. I'm giving you a plausible reason why. And a rough sketch on how to lower that ratio.
And yall ignore that and fall back on tired and worn comebacks that have nothing to do with moving forward, and all to do with being Whiny Little Bitches.
Do yall really want to make Bill Maher a prophet???

The solution is what people don't want to hear.

Stop rewarding hos with free shit.

Hos with free shit = good guys go last, hot criminal bad boys get the pussy. The public pays for neglected kids, who grow up to want to be bad boys to get the pussy.

Ghettos got 10x worse with the New Society. Not better, worse. Black people were MORE likely to get married, stay married, and had lower divorce than Whitey until the 1960s.

Even a flaming liberal Sociologist like Daniel Patrick Moynihan saw it 50 years ago by studying the stats. His recommendation was to stop undermining the Black Father.

This is true across race and religion lines, too.

BlueSardine says

The claim is the majority of black men start life as a child in a rat infested shithole as a side effect of centuries of slavery.

The sole remaining side effect of slavery is such a bad attitude that no one wants to hire American blacks.

Other groups started in America in similar or even worse conditions and did just fine after a generation, or two, or three. Lots of Irish neighborhoods were dangerous shitholes, and the old Jewish neighborhoods in NY were not much better, and many Chinese neighborhoods are borderline shitholes right now.

The man in the video was awesome. He first tried to pepper spray them because he's compassionate and didn't want to blow their stupid heads off. But, when his bottle of spray fell and was picked up by the racist thug, he pulled out his steel law enforcement and instantly neutralized the situation, safely, and effectively.

I'm not sure how this event started, but I have a feeling if I knew I would probably wish he had just taken their crime off the streets forever in that moment.

+1 to that man.