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2019 Aug 3, 6:39am   4,752 views  47 comments

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Who would have thought that the word “racist” would be so misused and overused, that’s it’s lost its meaning in our society?

It used to be a serious allegation with serious consequences. Now it’s hard for people to keep a straight face when they hear the accusation.

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1   Y   2019 Aug 3, 7:52am  

In her book Statecraft, the late, great British prime minister Margaret Thatcher wrote: “Socialists have always spent much of their time seeking new titles for their beliefs, because the old versions so quickly become outdated and discredited.”

The Iron Lady was absolutely right, yet again.

America’s Democratic Left craftily swaps the words associated with its policies. As public opinion or the facts start to escape them, presto! Their speeches, articles, and TV appearances employ new language. Leftists leave inconvenient lingo behind, like a snake’s abandoned skin languishing between desert rocks. Inexplicably, though, the Republican Right usually adopts the Left’s new parlance. This inadvertently advances the collectivist cause.

For instance, Leftists understand that the word “liberal” telegraphs bloated, intrusive government at home; a blame-America-first posture overseas; and social programs propelled by victimology. Defining candidates as liberals often assures their defeat.

So a few years ago, liberals started to call themselves “progressives.”

Ah, much better! Everyone loves progress.

One cannot blame the Left for this linguistic sleight-of-hand. After all, they like to win elections, too. What is maddening is that conservative advocates unwittingly aid liberals in this rhetorical jailbreak. Too many officeholders and pundits on the right chomped into the Left’s bait and began calling them progressives.

This habit is totally counterproductive.

If a bank robber wants to avoid capture, do not help him remove the outfit he wore to the heist. Likewise, conservatives immediately should stop calling Leftists “progressives.” If statists spurn the liberal label, staple it to their lapels.

Likewise, since data from National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration satellites confirm that Earth’s average temperature stopped rising in 1997, liberals quit banging the “global warming” drum. Instead, they ring the “climate change” bell. This has the priceless advantage of encompassing all unusual weather. Three feet of snow in upstate New York over Memorial Day weekend? While this hardly sounds like “global warming,” liberals dub it “climate change” and argue for shuttering the coal industry — its 91,000 workers be damned.

Again, too many on the right unthinkingly help discredited global warmers like Obama by parroting the Left’s “climate change” terminology. Conservatives should drop “climate change.” Instead, they should challenge so-called global warming. Make environmentalists prove their previous contention — that Earth is warming, despite contradictory satellite observations, and not just changing its climate, as this planet does constantly, regardless of human activity.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/07/fight-liberal-word-games-deroy-murdock/
2   Shaman   2019 Aug 3, 8:03am  

“Racist” is just another middle schooler ad hominem attack, worthy of no response more eloquent than: “well, then you’re a jackass!”
3   Shaman   2019 Aug 3, 8:55am  

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/08/trump-supporters-called-racists/595333/

“CINCINNATI—Donald Trump’s supporters would like to be clear: They are tired of being called racists.

Leave it to the president’s eldest son to set the tone. Last night at the 17,500-person-capacity U.S. Bank Arena downtown here, Donald Trump Jr. strode onto the stage two hours before the president was scheduled to speak. The venue was already brimming.
It had been a rough week for his father. On July 28, President Trump was once again deemed racist after lashing out at House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings, whose district includes part of Baltimore. Trump referred to the city 40 miles north of Washington as “a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess” in which “no human being would want to live.” Those comments came shortly after the president suggested that four progressive congresswomen of color “go back” to the “totally broken and crime infested places from which they came,” prompting the crowd at his July 17 rally in Greenville, North Carolina, to chant, “Send her back!” Trump—though he later disavowed the chant—did nothing to stop it.

Last night, Trump supporters in Cincinnati were eager to defend their man.

“It’s amazing that when Donald Trump makes a comment about Baltimore, it’s racist, it’s terrible, it’s this. But when the mayor of that town, when the congressman from that town, says the exact same thing, ‘Oh! No problem!’” Trump Jr. boomed, referring to a statement that Cummings made in 1999, calling Baltimore “drug-infested.”

It’s sad,” he continued, “that using ‘racism’ has become the easy button of left-wing politics. All right? Because guess what? It still is an issue … But by making a mockery of it by saying every time you can’t win a fight—‘Oh! We’re just gonna push the button! It’s racist’—you hurt those that are actually afflicted by it. People hear it, they roll their eyes, and they walk on. And that’s a disgrace, and that’s what you’ve been given in the identity politics of the left.”
4   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2019 Aug 3, 9:24am  

Racist! Bigot! Homophobe!

Dude some people are just stupid. I was standing in line to buy groceries. Two women in front of me. They see a guy with some rifle picture on it. They call him exact words “racist, homophobic mysogenist”. The guy was just random dude with his kid getting groceries.

Words have no meaning, Democrats let emotionally unstable retards define everything.
5   Patrick   2019 Aug 3, 9:53am  

@Fortwaynemobile I think it's possible to understand leftist hatred and counter it.

Their motives are pretty clearly laid out here:

https://patrick.net/post/1326187/2019-08-01-unabomber-s-stunningly-accurate-description-of-leftist-psychology

Words like “self-confidence,” “self-reliance,” “initiative,” “enterprise,” “optimism,” etc., play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone’s problems for them, satisfy everyone’s needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.


So the right answer to leftists is maybe not a counter-attack, but encouragement to become self-reliant, to develop their own abilities and strengths, to give them a sense of optimism that their own hard work can improve their lives. And to welcome them into a community of like-minded people who also are working on improving themselves.
6   Patrick   2019 Aug 3, 9:57am  

Another thought I just had: OJ's exoneration from an air-tight double murder charge proves that rich people of ALL races can escape justice in America.
7   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2019 Aug 3, 9:58am  

I don’t think you can’t change people Patrick. They won’t go from losers to winners, from low iq to high.

It’s just leftist propaganda here, it does crazy things to those people.
8   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2019 Aug 3, 10:25am  

Money talks.

Epstein client list isn’t going public, too many rich pedos out there.

Patrick says
Another thought I just had: OJ's exoneration from an air-tight double murder charge proves that rich people of ALL races can escape justice in America.
9   Ceffer   2019 Aug 3, 11:11am  

Racist Accusation Screening Assessment and Inventory:

Is accusation a con?

Is accusation a guilt trip?

Is accusation an attempt at extortion?

Is accusation levied to sidestep a consistent, clear, repetitive, directly obvious pattern of behavior?

Is accusation an attempt to gain an unwarranted advantage compared to a situation where no allegation of racism exists.

Is the accusation an attempt to shift the ground away from an obvious defect in the accuser’s argument, attitude or behavior?

Is the accusation a straw man?

Is accusation an attempt to side step responsibility or avoid guilt?

Is accusation an effort to drag down and justify a lower moral/ethical/legal standard?

Is allegation relying on some nebulous historical generalization or myth?

Is the accuser acting or behaving in a racist manner him/herself?

Has the accuser actually suffered any clear and present harm beyond allegation?

If the accuser DID suffer harm, what was the contribution of his/her own actions?

Has the accuser habitually inflicted harm on others?

Is accuser behaving in an immoral, unethical, irresponsible or illegal way or does the accuser display a pattern of immoral, unethical, irresponsible or illegal behavior?

Is the accuser threatening physical violence or violence to property if demands aren’t met?

Is there ANY factual or circumstantial evidence or fact to support accuser’s position?


Apply inventory and see how many accusations of racism survive beyond the accuser simply being an ASSHOLE.
10   HeadSet   2019 Aug 3, 11:27am  

The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone’s problems for them, satisfy everyone’s needs for them, take care of them.

No, they want to rule. Think of the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt, who owned all property. people and produce in the land. The Pharaoh controled all the grain, and doled it out according to his "generosity." All socialist systems are just a variation on this model - the State owns all, and people are provided with "needs" as the leaders see fit. A more modern example is Saddam Hussein, who did not permit autonomous Kurdish villages. Any self supporting Kurd town would see Saddam's troops come in, bulldoze the fields and fill in the wells. Saddam had to be sure the Kurds were dependent on his "generosity" for their survival, so self reliance was not tolerated.
11   HeadSet   2019 Aug 3, 11:36am  

Leftists are neither "liberal" nor "progressive. "Liberal" means pro freedom and "progressive" means moving positively ahead. Leftist are actually Statists who wish to restrict individual freedom to the will of the government, and Collectivists who wish to regress to failed policies of 19th and early 20th century Socialism.
12   Patrick   2019 Aug 3, 11:43am  

HeadSet says
Saddam had to be sure the Kurds were dependent on his "generosity" for their survival, so self reliance was not tolerated.


I agree that this is a good analogy for how leftists maintain power.
13   marcus   2019 Aug 3, 11:46am  

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Just out of curiosity.


Do you guys think these people were racist ?






Was Reagan's recently discovered comment to Nixon racist ?


"Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television, as I did, to see those, those monkeys from those African countries — damn them — they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” Reagan said on the call."



Is it really that racism is losing it's meaning ? OR is it that a significant part of the country is getting in touch with their racism and what they like about Trump is that he lets them feel okay about it.

Am I asking for too much honesty here ?
14   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 3, 11:48am  



Although in fairness, the Dems seldom talk about class anymore. Too many 6 figure Teachers, Admins, Gov Workers, etc. - Town Socialists concerned with Social Justice.
15   HeadSet   2019 Aug 3, 12:23pm  

marcus says
:

Just out of curiosity.


Do you guys think these people were racist ?






Was Reagan's recently discovered comment to Nixon racist ?


"Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television, as I did, to see those, those monkeys from those African countries — damn them — they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” Reagan said on the call."



Is it really that racism is losing it's meaning ? OR is it that a significant part of the country is getting in touch with their racism and what they like about Trump is that he lets them feel okay about it.

Am I asking for too much honesty here ?



You had to go back nearly 40 years to the Reagan error to find material to say Trump supporters are racist today. How on earth did Obama get elected?
16   Patrick   2019 Aug 3, 12:34pm  

Photo is too convenient. Looks staged.
17   marcus   2019 Aug 3, 2:05pm  

HeadSet says
you had to go back nearly 40 years to the Reagan error to find material to say Trump supporters are racist today


That's not what I did at all. I'm asking a question based specifically on what I see in this thread, about how racism is losing it's meaning and I'm asking a question. Does that photo (if it's real), depict racism ?

Does the Reagan quote reflect racism ?


I feel like these are really simple questions. I'm just curious to hear your answer. Are those questions just too damn difficult ?
18   thankshousingbubble   2019 Aug 3, 2:11pm  

yeah, its getting to the point where you can't even say "niggers are worthless animals, and I don't want to rent to them, or hire them, and I'm happy when police shoot spooks" without someone playing the race card, and calling you a racist!
19   marcus   2019 Aug 3, 2:20pm  

Patrick says
Photo is too convenient.


IT's an historical fact that the KKK publicly supported Reagan. Reagan had to publicly say that he didn't want their support.

That's what I call convenient. I wonder how much KKK support Reagan lost for saying that he didn't want their support.
20   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 3, 2:45pm  

marcus says
IT's an historical fact that the KKK publicly supported Reagan. Reagan had to publicly say that he didn't want their support.


It's also an historical fact that the KKK was associated with the Democratic party in it's heyday. Back when membership was high, in the millions.

In fact, multiple KKK members were Democratic Congressmen and Senators within the lives of people still around today.
21   marcus   2019 Aug 3, 3:06pm  

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HonkpilledMaster says
It's also an historical fact that the KKK was associated with the Democratic party in it's heyday. Back when membership was high, in the millions.


Correct. And if you were the slightest bit honest, you would admit that those people would virtually ALL be Trump voters today. I suppose to you "the southern strategy" is some kind of myth ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
22   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Aug 3, 3:13pm  

I don't think Reagan was racist in that quote. It was an accurate statement for the time, even as an expression of anger. His career shows that he was a great president and not racist.

If marcus looked back 40 years when called someone a "faggot" or some other word, doesn't make Marcus a "homophobic racist bigot"... words left likes to overuse for everything.
23   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Aug 3, 3:13pm  

marcus says
Correct. And if you were the slightest bit honest, you would admit that those people would virtually ALL be Trump voters today.


Hitler liked drinking water, so is water racist now?

All racists watch youtube, is youtube racist?

I can keep going with the same logic you just posted...
24   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 3, 9:18pm  

marcus says
Correct. And if you were the slightest bit honest, you would admit that those people would virtually ALL be Trump voters today. I suppose to you "the southern strategy" is some kind of myth ?


The Southern Strategy happened AFTER the Democrats gave up racism and the Republicans have always been opposed to Racist Measures.

The Democrats are in favor racist measures today, except against Whites, and especially Males. The entire term "POC" is to separate, exclude, and isolate Whites and justify racist treatment of them.
26   CBOEtrader   2019 Aug 4, 5:55am  

marcus says
I suppose to you "the southern strategy" is some kind of myth ?


The way you think about it is indeed a myth.
27   Tenpoundbass   2019 Aug 4, 6:11am  

Obama is a dirty Rotten Racist Mother Fucker. Who happens to be married to a dude that takes it up the Ass.
30   GNL   2019 Aug 4, 8:43am  

marcus says
Am I asking for too much honesty here ?

No, you're just asking stupid questions.
31   Shaman   2019 Aug 4, 8:52am  

marcus says
Does the Reagan quote reflect racism ?


Yep, but who cares? He was from another era where casually racist remarks were excused and even laughed at by both Republicans and Democrats. He’s not in power, he’s dead, and he’s beyond caring what you think. In short, it doesn’t matter. If you think it matters, then explain why, so we can correct your flawed thinking.
32   komputodo   2019 Aug 4, 9:24am  

We know that meathead thought Archie was a racist but did George Jefferson think so too? Did meathead think george was a racist? George's views were easily as ingrained as Archie's but diametrically opposed...lol
33   komputodo   2019 Aug 4, 9:25am  

Is it a HATE CRIME when the one you hate most is yourself?
35   socal2   2019 Aug 5, 10:54am  

HonkpilledMaster says
The Southern Strategy happened AFTER the Democrats gave up racism and the Republicans have always been opposed to Racist Measures.


Also worth pointing out that the South became less racist when they started voting for Republicans.
36   marcus   2019 Aug 5, 11:32pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
The Southern Strategy happened AFTER the Democrats gave up racism and the Republicans have always been opposed to Racist Measures.


CBOEtrader says
The way you think about it is indeed a myth.


You guys are so far gone, and stroking each other so much. I wish I could laugh.

Everyone else must be wrong about the southern strategy too, including the people that coined the term and implemented it with dog whistles.


In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3] As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right.[4]

The "Southern Strategy" refers primarily to "top down" narratives of the political realignment of the South which suggest that Republican leaders consciously appealed to many white Southerners' racial grievances in order to gain their support.[5] This top-down narrative of the Southern Strategy is generally believed to be the primary force that transformed Southern politics following the civil rights era.[6][7] This view has been questioned by historians such as Matthew Lassiter, Kevin M. Kruse and Joseph Crespino, who have presented an alternative, "bottom up" narrative, which Lassiter has called the "suburban strategy". This narrative recognizes the centrality of racial backlash to the political realignment of the South,[8] but suggests that this backlash took the form of a defense of de facto segregation in the suburbs rather than overt resistance to racial integration and that the story of this backlash is a national rather than a strictly Southern one.[9][10][11][12]

The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South", particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[4] In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), a national civil rights organization, for exploiting racial polarization to win elections and ignoring the black vote.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
37   CBOEtrader   2019 Aug 5, 11:37pm  

Marcus, yet again hiding behind words of strangers.

Tell us how the Republican party appealed to racism, then show us your evidence to suggest all the racists switched parties.

You can start by defining racism and perhaps explain how hyperfixating on those darn white men isn't racist as fuck.
38   BayArea   2019 Aug 5, 11:41pm  

I just tuned into CNN for the first time in months.

Don Lemon had guests on who took turns talking about how the president and his supporters are racist.

That’s how the left will lose another election...
39   CBOEtrader   2019 Aug 5, 11:41pm  

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html

Well researched professors in 2005? (Thank God it's not from 2019 or they would've been fired.) Or Wikipedia? Which argument do you find more compelling?

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